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There are 30 messages totalling 1004 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. Half-scan: Wannadies/Ruth Ruth/K's Choice report (2) 2. Blixa (Swedish boneheads on S-I) 3. Sin's Selected News [23-Feb-96] (3) 4. Sin's Upcoming Promotion Visits [23-Feb-96] 5. Sin's Music On The TV [23-Feb-96] 6. Him Kerosene 7. Swedish on the list 8. Places to play at 9. best lyrics 10. Andres Lokko Homepage 11. Naked (was Re: NON-SCAN: Seam's like 'chunk spirit) (3) 12. Sin's Selected News [26-Feb-96] (5) 13. Penniless People of Bulgaria on tour! 14. band names (2) 15. Shallow re-naming craze 16. College Rock & Cardigans (was Re: NON-SCAN: Seam's like 'chunk spirit) 17. Olle Ljungstrom on P3 18. Cloudberry Jam in London 19. FWD: Cardigans Concert Review - Berlin 20. Shallow(s) & Herrg}r'n Gig List --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 16:07:58 +0100 From: d-sunjan@jmk.su.se (Jan Sundstrom) Subject: Re: Half-scan: Wannadies/Ruth Ruth/K's Choice report >K's Choice - from Belgium >Unexpected treat. Truly great band, with an extremely talanted and very >androgynous singer. At first I wasn't sure wether it was a man or a >woman, but after the first song I decided it must be a she. (It was) The >band sounded a bit like a 'nicer' version of dEUS, loads of harmonies and >strange guitar noices. I realized afterwards that I'd heard them on the >radio before the show - probably on the Mark Radcliffe show. Summary: >Worth checking out on CD. (This was the first date of their european >tour, maybe they're coming to scandinavia?) For those of you who haven't noted it: They're playing 28/2 at Studion (Stockholm). FREE ENTRANCE! (What's this sudden generosity of Sony??? ;) ) List-meet? I really like their single "Not an Addict" but that's the only song i've heard... I'm bugging Marten to show up at least. Jan Sundstrom ------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 17:04:11 +0100 From: d-sunjan@jmk.su.se (Jan Sundstrom) Subject: Re: Blixa (Swedish boneheads on S-I) >Hej, jag har h=F6rt rykten om att Blixa Bargeld (The Bad Seeds, >Neubauten)ska producera ett sprillans nytt svenskt band. Hans >manager trodde det var ett sidoprojekt. >N=E5gon som vet skivbolaget eller bandets namn. ?? Hey, if you've been on this list for a while, you might have noted that we conversate on _english_!!! It's not very polite to our foreign subscribers (as i've pointed out before), if you thought about it for a second or two... No, i don't know of Blixas new productions, but call up Sonet(/Mute in Sweden), they should know something. And chief, i know you're against moderating, but is there no way to bounce back messages in swedish, saying "please write that again, but this time in a language that all of us understand!" Jan Sundstrom ------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Feb 96 17:33:54 +0100 From: robert@astro.su.se (Robert Cumming) Subject: Re: Blixa (Swedish boneheads on S-I) Jan: > Claes: > >Hej, jag har h=F6rt rykten om att Blixa Bargeld (The Bad Seeds, > Hey, if you've been on this list for a while, you might have noted > that we conversate on _english_!!! Speak for yourself! I converse in English, but then I would, wouldn't I... ObScan-Indie: Who (in your opinion) writes the best lyrics in the scan-indie world? The best lyrics in English? The best home-language lyrics? Robert, som foerbereder sig foer skottdagen :) och som foerresten _aldrig_ skriver paa svenska ------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 06:59:58 +0100 (MET) From: chief@lysator.liu.se Subject: Sin's Selected News [23-Feb-96] ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Scandinavian Indie SELECTED NEWS Scandinavian Indie February 23rd, 1996 Contents: Cloudberry Jam, Hultsfred Festival 96, Kent, Ray Wonder, Salt. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cloudberry Jam - (NONS) have planned a release party in good old Link|ping for the upcoming album "Providing The Atmosphere". The event is planned for March 20th. Some unmentionable people wanted the party to be held in Stockholm, for obvious reasons, but the band didn't share that view. While in Japan (Jennie and Henrik) promoting their new album, they also got to DJ at one of the "in" clubs in Tokyo called "Electronic Cafe" and finally managed to get their hands on the Japanese version of their previous album, which none of them had before, strangely enough. Warner/Chappell Music Scandinavian have signed a co-publishing- and option- agreement with Fish Up Publishing, the publishing firm for North Of No South, and therefore, Cloudberry Jam. British Unimedia Productions have booked a load of Swedish bands to play at the Dublin Castle club in London, and the first band to play there is.. yes, you guessed it, Cloudberry Jam. (Source: Sin, Topp40) Hultsfred Festival 96 - have, for the first year, permission to keep the festival open around the clock. This is of course good news for the new dance-tent, which replaces the Sahara stage this year. (Source: Topp40) Kent - (BMG) received an award in the category "Best Group" at the annual Swedish Grammy awards held February 19th. They also appeared "live" (playback) at the awards, performing the song "Frank". The members of the band had different opinions about if the prize was important to them or not. Joakim Berg (vocals) said it wasn't, and Sami Sirvi| (guitar) said it was, though reports from the after-party said that the band "misplaced" their award. Their new single "Kr{m" was released on February 19th as well. A video for the song "Kr{m" exists, and was first shown on ZTV February 16th in the program "Tryck Till", where it got a "sv{nger" review, which means that they think that it will be a hit. (Source: Topp40, ZTV, SVT 1) Ray Wonder - (NONS) and Cardigans tour on Iceland right now has been preceded by a high interest from the icelandic media. Ray Wonder has been played up to 70 times/day on the radio and last monday, the icelandic national radio had a "Ray Wonder Day" and played everything they could find by the band. Both bands arrived yesterday and were met by the swedish ambassadeur, who took them on a round trip of Iceland. Apart from the gigs, press and tv, they will also have two recreational days with scooter-riding and baths in thermal springs. (Source: Topp40) Salt - (MVG) as you know, got a visit from ZTV at the Tower Records/Costa Mesa gig. They recorded the whole concert and then rode on the tour bus with the band to Fullerton to interview them. Their manager, Jeff, said that "the piece should be interesting and full of Salt's impressions of the US after their first week of gigs." and that "the tour is going great and the response to Salt at all of the shows has been brilliant". The single "Bluster" took two steps up on the Billboard Modern Rock Tracks list from place 26 to 24. (Source: Sin) *** All new always at: http://www.lysator.liu.se/~chief/selnews.html *** *** Remember to quote the source, and the link, if Sin is the source *** //Erik (chief@lysator.liu.se) -------------------------- Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 07:00:31 +0100 (MET) From: chief@lysator.liu.se Subject: Sin's Upcoming Promotion Visits [23-Feb-96] ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Scandinavian Indie UPCOMING PROMOTION VISITS Scandinavian Indie February 23rd, 1996 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Backstreet Boys (BMG) 15-16/3 Mary Black (Grapewine) 13/3 (S|ndags|ppet + radio + press) Michael Bolton (Sony) 23/2 Chemical Brothers (Virgin) 23/2 Lloyd Cole (Polygram) 6/3 (S|ndags|ppet + interviews) Goldie (Polygram) 29/3 K's Choice (Sony) 28/2 Lenny Kravitz (Virgin) 1/3 Marion (Polygram) 1/3 Tony Rich Project (LaFace/BMG) 22-23/3 Take That (BMG) 14/3 Tripping Daisy (Polygram) 9/3 Vaya Con Dios (BMG) 3/3 Velvet Belly (BMG) 27/3 The Walkabouts (Virgin) Gothenburg 3/3, Stockholm 4/3, Malmo 6/3 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- //Erik (chief@lysator.liu.se) --------------------- Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 07:01:00 +0100 (MET) From: chief@lysator.liu.se Subject: Sin's Music On The TV [23-Feb-96] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Scandinavian Indie MUSIC ON THE TV Scandinavian Indie February 23rd -> February 29nd Day Date Artist/What TV Program Channel Time --- ----- ----------------------- ------------------- ------------- ----- Sat 24/2 Pop & Indie Pop & Indie ZTV 14.00 R Toppen Toppen ZTV 17.05 R Naked Adam TV 3 22.00 N|jesrevyn N|jesrevyn SVT 1 00.15 R Sun 25/2 Alternative Nation Alternative Nation MTV Europe 22.30 The Doors Movie TV 4 00.35 Mon 26/2 Naked Bullen SVT 1 19.15 Toppen Toppen ZTV 19.15 Red Hot Chili Peppers Bootleg MTV Europe 20.30 Tue 27/2 Pop & Indie Pop & Indie ZTV 19.15 Toppen Toppen ZTV 21.00 R Guide To Alternative.. Guide To... MTV Europe 21.30 Naked Adam TV 3 23.50 R Wed 28/2 Musikrevyn Musikrevyn SVT 1 19.15 Hole Unplugged MTV Europe 21.30 Thu 29/2 Levellers N|jesrevyn SVT 1 22.30 Guide to Alternative.. Guide to... MTV Europe 21.30 R = Rerun ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is also available on the Scandinavian Indie WWW pages at: http://www.lysator.liu.se/~chief/uptv.html //Erik (chief@lysator.liu.se) ----------------------- Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 11:38:51 +0100 (MET) From: Ulf.Harnhammar@abc.se (Ulf Harnhammar) Subject: Re: Half-scan: Wannadies/Ruth Ruth/K's Choice report > >K's Choice - from Belgium > > For those of you who haven't noted it: They're playing 28/2 at Studion > (Stockholm). FREE ENTRANCE! (What's this sudden generosity of Sony??? ;) ) > > List-meet? I really like their single "Not an Addict" but that's the only > song i've heard... I've planned to go there too. -ulf http://www.abc.se/~m9656/ --------------------------- Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 04:54:37 +0100 (MET) From: chief@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: Him Kerosene Just thought I'd mention that Claes Nordling told me that Him Kerosene is signed to Birdnest, so maybe we'll soon be able to find something in our local record stores? //Erik (chief@lysator.liu.se) --------------------------- Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 04:55:15 +0100 (MET) From: chief@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: Swedish on the list On Fri, 23 Feb 1996, trkisa@uta.fi (Kimmo Saaskilahti) wrote: > According to Claes Nordling: > > * Hej, jag har h=F6rt rykten om att Blixa Bargeld (The Bad Seeds, > * Neubauten)ska producera ett sprillans nytt svenskt band. Hans > * manager trodde det var ett sidoprojekt. > * N=E5gon som vet skivbolaget eller bandets namn. ?? > > Not to flame, but *please* use English when posting to this list!! > Even though the majority of subscribers are from Sweden, there is a > healthy number of listers from countries like the USA, Australia, > Finland and what not, who surely don't want to miss out on any > informative/entertaining postings!! and d-sunjan@jmk.su.se (Jan Sundstrom) wrote: >> Hej, jag har h=F6rt rykten om att Blixa Bargeld (The Bad Seeds, >> Neubauten)ska producera ett sprillans nytt svenskt band. Hans >> manager trodde det var ett sidoprojekt. >> N=E5gon som vet skivbolaget eller bandets namn. ?? > > Hey, if you've been on this list for a while, you might have noted that we > conversate on _english_!!! It's not very polite to our foreign subscribers > (as i've pointed out before), if you thought about it for a second or > two... > > No, i don't know of Blixas new productions, but call up Sonet(/Mute in > Sweden), they should know something. Umm, well, Claes, as I understand it, (who isn't on the list right now due to some e-mail problems) recently subscribed (and is the head of Funbase, one of Sweden's first "own Compuserve"s on the Internet in the field of entertainment in Sweden (that is, music news, club news, record reviews etc..)), and it's great that you all tell him what the deal is with the mailing list, but please, try to avoid posting such things to the list. Direct such things personally to the one who posted the message. That would keep the mailing list clean from apparent non-relevant discussions like the one's we've had lately regarding fake mail and use of language. > And chief, i know you're against moderating, but is there no way to bounce > back messages in swedish, saying "please write that again, but this time in > a language that all of us understand!" I'm not a unix script-junkie myself, so I have no idea if there's a way or not, but if someone on the list would like to help me out with such a script, I would be more than happy to use it. I'll add a line to the "Welcome to the mailing list" stating that the language used on the list is English though, and I would have taken care of that message if I hadn't been too busy studying, not checking my e-mail for two days. :-/ Sorry about all the trouble, //Erik (chief@lysator.liu.se) ---------------------------- Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 04:55:39 +0100 (MET) From: chief@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: Places to play at On Tue, 20 Feb 1996, d-sunjan@jmk.su.se (Jan Sundstrom) wrote: > Anyway, the wonder about favourite venues. Mine is Gino and Studion, > Stockholm, coz these are the places where all good bands play. Too > expensive beer though. I second that. Gino is definitely my favourite hang-out when I'm in Stockholm. I've been through so many things there, actually from the day it first opened, that it almost feels like a second home. :-) Studion is kinda nice too - I've never had a bad time there, and it's kind of small and cosy.. //Erik (chief@lysator.liu.se) ------------------------- Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 10:38:02 +0000 (GMT) From: Sean Kyle-PriceSubject: Re: Sin's Selected News [23-Feb-96] On Sat, 24 Feb 1996 chief@lysator.liu.se wrote: > Cloudberry Jam - (NONS) have planned a release party in good old Link|ping > British Unimedia Productions have booked a load of Swedish > bands to play at the Dublin Castle club in London, and > the first band to play there is.. yes, you guessed it, > Cloudberry Jam. (Source: Sin, Topp40) You're kidding, right? When are they playing? What other bands are playing? You've got me all excited. Sean -------------------------- Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 15:25:27 +0100 From: d-sunjan@jmk.su.se (Jan Sundstrom) Subject: best lyrics >ObScan-Indie: Who (in your opinion) writes the best lyrics in the >scan-indie world? The best lyrics in English? Popsicle maybe... There are a few candidates. >The best home-language lyrics? Bob Hund, obviously. And Arvid Tuba. And Olle Ljungstr=F6m. Jan Sundstrom ------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 18:19:57 +0100 From: y-runann@jmk.su.se (Anna-Karin Rundquist) Subject: Andres Lokko Homepage Hello, I've made a Homepage with some "f=F6r =F6vrigt skulle jag vilja rekommendera"-lists and pictures of and links relating to Andres Lokko. Unfortunately it's all in Swedish, but I'm planning on putting up a smaller English version soon. And the page is at: http://www.jmk.su.se/jmk/stud/magen/y-runann/Lokkohome.html And it rules, since it's the ONLY Lokko page on the net. akeen writes poems of friendship Homepage: http://www.jmk.su.se/jmk/stud/magen/y-runann/index.html ------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 22:50:38 +0100 (MET) From: Per L}ngstr|m Subject: Re: Naked (was Re: NON-SCAN: Seam's like 'chunk spirit) sorry to be bringing this up, but it's not like this is the most mail-generating mailing-list around.. so i hope no one cares to much about this rather nonsense discussion.. almost a whole week ago, On Tue, 20 Feb 1996, Christer Nilsson wrote: > > well.. he described them both as college rock..!! f*ck i wish he knew > > what he was talking about! the connells and live are typical college rock > > bands, superchunk is definitely not college rock!! it's like saying that > > souls and fireside are typical university rock bands over here!!!!! > > I totally agree with your opinions, but: > > Yes, bands like Live and R.E.M. are labeled college rock as you point > out. BUT this term is so misleading, there are very few college radio > stations that play that type of music. In fact Superchunk and Seam > are typical bands being played on U.S. college radio. As soon as a band > gets airplay on commercial radio stations or MTV most college radio > stations have the policy to stop playing them. This is what public > radio is all about, to offer something not heard anywhere else. hmm, so by your defintion "college rock" is not what the people attending college listens to but what the djs at the college radio stations likes to play.. so, who makes up the largest part of a college, the students attending the college or the djs at the college radio station..? and if what you're saying about college radio stations not playing bands that have been on mtv etc is true then we are agreeing that neither seam nor superchunk are "college rock", because they have both been on mtv several times.. :P .per, listening to tar ----------------------- Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 00:20:30 +0100 (MET) From: Carl Bjorklund Subject: Re: Sin's Selected News [23-Feb-96] > > Cloudberry Jam - (NONS) have planned a release party in good old Link|ping > > British Unimedia Productions have booked a load of Swedish > > bands to play at the Dublin Castle club in London, and > > the first band to play there is.. yes, you guessed it, > > Cloudberry Jam. (Source: Sin, Topp40) > > You've got me all excited. Me too!! Where's the club? (I should know - I know!) When? How? [giggle-giggle-giggle] Which other bands are playing? Wow - this place is turning into *little Gothenburg* !!? Maybe we should declare London Scan-indie territory? Carl - sorry for the sensless post - I'm a little hyped up. [I just swallowed a big fat bag of crack - thats why.] [only kidding - I would never do a drug named after a part of my own ass...] ----------------------- Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 05:10:27 +0100 (MET) From: chief@lysator.liu.se Subject: Sin's Selected News [26-Feb-96] ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Scandinavian Indie SELECTED NEWS Scandinavian Indie February 26th, 1996 Contents: Able, Bj|rk, Drain, Emmaboda Festival 96, Grammy Awards, Kent, Naked, Puffin, Salt, Shallow. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Able - plans to start recording an album in April at Toodle Recordings in Link|ping. No release date is set yet. The band will also appear on the frequently mentioned Dorian Records compilation CD, soon to be released (?). (Source: Sin) Bj|rk - received the "babe of the year 1995" award by UK magazine "Select". (Source: Aftonbladet) Drain - (MVG) were in Los Angeles, USA this weekend, and recorded a video directed by Wayne Isham (who has directed videos with everything from Metallica to Whitney Houston). (Source: Expressen) Emmaboda Festival 96 - (August 9 - 10), news (although not from the arrangers): Artists ready as of today includes: Brick, Chester Copperpot, Starmarket and Stereolab. (Source: Minna/Super, Sin) Grammy Awards - in Sweden: Expressen reports from the after-party that Popsicle's "bad boy" Fredrik Norberg tried to pick up Kajsa Mellgren, but had to give up, and that Frans Johansson (Fireside) circled around Robyn. (Source: Expressen) Kent - (BMG) used five (!) stuntmen when recording the video to "Kr{m" for one scene - the one where Joakim Berg jumps from V{sterbron. Linda Norrman-Skugge at Expressen listed the contents on her pre-hand tape of the upcoming Kent album. 27 titles were listed. Can that really be true? If it is, then D. Shutrick and Henrik De La Cour appear in two songs. (Source: Minna/Super, Expressen) Naked - from Denmark (yes, we can all see what's coming.. "Naked Sweden"?) have their own fan club and with that, their own homepage. You'll find it at: http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/3906. (Source: Sin) Puffin - (West Side) has a new member. Who, you ask? Well, if you have seen the band live, you probably know who he is - Eskil L|vstr|m (trombone, keyboards). (Source: Sin) Salt - (MVG) are still touring the US. Expressen reports that a number of gigs are sold out weeks ahead and that they are treated like real rock stars. They also mention that Pat Smear (Foo Fighters) checked out the gig in Los Angeles. (Source: Expressen) Shallow - from Gothenburg are, after receiving the news about the number of "Shallow"s out there, thinking about "making a Verve", that is, changing their name to "The Shallow". The band will also be included on the upcoming compilation from Dorian Records (where Aquadays also will be represented) with the song "Hyper", Sin's favourite song on their demo tape reviewed last week. (Source: Sin) *** All news always at: http://www.lysator.liu.se/~chief/selnews.html *** *** Remember to quote the source, and the link, if Sin is the source *** //Erik (chief@lysator.liu.se) --------------------------- Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 08:37:05 +0100 (MET) From: Ulf.Harnhammar@abc.se (Ulf Harnhammar) Subject: Re: Sin's Selected News [26-Feb-96] > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Scandinavian Indie SELECTED NEWS Scandinavian Indie > > February 26th, 1996 > Kent - > Linda Norrman-Skugge at Expressen listed the contents on her pre-hand > tape of the upcoming Kent album. 27 titles were listed. Can that > really be true? If it is, then D. Shutrick and Henrik De La Cour > appear in two songs. (Source: Minna/Super, Expressen) I saw that list too, and after reading the titles of all the songs that were listed, I thought it kind of obvious that it was a joke on the expense of Joakim's kitchen-sink social-realism kind of writing style. (And a funny one, too - Linda does have a sense of humour underneath all that posing.) -ulf http://www.abc.se/~m9656/ -------------------------- Date: Tue, 27 Feb 96 08:54:38 -0800 From: Morten Wendell Pedersen Subject: > Re: Naked (was Re: NON-SCAN: Seam's like 'chunk spirit) Per L}ngstr|m writes: > sorry to be bringing this up, but it's not like this is the most > mail-generating mailing-list around.. so i hope no one cares to much > about this rather nonsense discussion.. So lets continue for a while (my mailbox is nearly dead after the temporarily shutdown of the UK-indie list... infact I'm nearly able to do some work instead of just walking through loads of mails ;-) .....Stuff deleted > > out. BUT this term is so misleading, there are very few college radio > > stations that play that type of music. In fact Superchunk and Seam > > are typical bands being played on U.S. college radio. As soon as a band > > gets airplay on commercial radio stations or MTV most college radio > > stations have the policy to stop playing them. This is what public > > radio is all about, to offer something not heard anywhere else. > > hmm, so by your defintion "college rock" is not what the people attending > college listens to but what the djs at the college radio stations likes > to play.. so, who makes up the largest part of a college, the students > attending the college or the djs at the college radio station..? Hey hey hey... one have to admit that the largest part of students where ever they are have an extremly dull music taste... as Carl pointed out (in his Wannadies review) all around him was listening to Michael Bolton and liked it (well not not a the Wannadies gig.. you know what I mean ;-) ) , and if someone are going to call Michael Bolton for college rock I'm going to scream...very LOUD So I think the definition of college rock as what is played on the college radio as fair enough... even though that can be quite misleading too ;-) > > and if what you're saying about college radio stations not playing bands > that have been on mtv etc is true then we are agreeing that neither seam > nor superchunk are "college rock", because they have both been on mtv > several times.. :P And so what... ;-) if you only want to play bands there haven't been on MTV you would have to watch MTV (or know someone who does it) and that will be even worse...;-) for Gods sake ignore MTV. If you only can figure out how to bye records if you have seen the video first then you do have a problem ;-) The good old DK song "MTV get off the air" is apparently still needed for educating the youth of today :-D Okay okay I guess you all agree... it's just when I see the three lettes M T V the anger is growing in me... just like with the word Microsoft :-) Well enough ramblings for today... if you think I sound like a bitter young man you're right... I left my bed to early this morning ;-) -Morten... who went through records wirh JAMC, Amps, TGU just to get of bed... right now Supergrass are on ;-) PS: I hope I have included enough smileys not to sound like an idiot... I guess I just needed some early-morning therapy ----------------------- Date: Tue, 27 Feb 96 09:03:27 -0800 From: Morten Wendell Pedersen Subject: > Sin's Selected News [26-Feb-96] chief@lysator.liu.se writes: > Shallow - from Gothenburg are, after receiving the news about the number > of "Shallow"s out there, thinking about "making a Verve", that is, > changing their name to "The Shallow". Could be a wise one... as long they don't have to called Shallow SE as the Charlatans UK.... But actually I don't think that the little "the" does any difference, people will still be confused. the "Mojave 3 " trick was a bit bit more elegant and less confusing Just 0.02$ of today ------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 11:10:12 +0200 (EET) From: trkisa@uta.fi (Kimmo Saaskilahti) Subject: Penniless People of Bulgaria on tour! The Finnish band Penniless People Of Bulgaria (on West Side) are starting a monstrous European tour of two months (!) very soon. Their latest album, 'Velocity' got a rave review in the leading Finnish rock mag Rumba; and I think some people (Erik S. & Robert C. ?) liked their latest single too... anyway, if you want to check them out, see the tour dates listed on the PPOB web page. I forget the exact URL, but there's a link on my 'Finnish Indie Bands' page at: http://www.uta.fi/~trkisa/findies.html share and enjoy Kimmo trkisa@uta.fi ---------------------- Date: Tue, 27 Feb 96 11:06:11 +0100 From: robert@astro.su.se (Robert Cumming) Subject: Re: > Sin's Selected News [26-Feb-96] In <9602271703.AA03674@indy.geofysik.aau.dk> Morten Wendell Pedersen wrote: > chief@lysator.liu.se writes: > > Shallow - from Gothenburg are, after receiving the news about the number > > of "Shallow"s out there, thinking about "making a Verve", that is, > > changing their name to "The Shallow". > Could be a wise one... as long they don't have to called Shallow SE > as the Charlatans UK.... But actually I don't think that the little > "the" does any difference, people will still be confused. the > "Mojave 3 " trick was a bit bit more elegant and less confusing In their case I'd have gone for 'Sallow' or 'Tallow' -- both nice words that hardly ever get used for anything, let alone band names. I'm a bit worried about Cessna myself -- the commercial world are worse on these things than other bands are. I'm thinking of the nicely-named Captain America who had to change to Eugenius, of all things... "Robert Cumming Sthlm" (just being safe), who'd be listening to Shack's 'Waterpistol' if he had a stereo here -- an utterly _fantastic_ album, even if it is British... ------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 12:49:24 +0200 (EET) From: trkisa@uta.fi (Kimmo Saaskilahti) Subject: band names * > Could be a wise one... as long they don't have to called Shallow SE * > as the Charlatans UK.... But actually I don't think that the little * > "the" does any difference, people will still be confused. I agree... I think in the Verve/The Verve case it was the famed record label that didn't like the use of the name, not another band. * the "Mojave 3 " trick was a bit bit more elegant and less confusing Indeed... and if my memories from the 80's are clear enough, The Beat having to change their name to The English Beat for the US market... also, the Finnish band Greenhouse AC had to think of something when they, shortly after releasing their first single, discovered that there already three other bands named Greenhouse (or The Greenhouse) in existance...nowadays there are even a couple more, I was told :) * I'm a bit worried about Cessna myself -- the commercial world are * worse on these things than other bands are. Yeah, we're going for the 'any publicity is good publicity' thang; after they sue us we will be called Excessna, of course... :) Kimmo (Tre) :) trkisa@uta.fi ----------------------- Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 12:58:42 -0500 (EST) From: Chris Forsberg Subject: Re: > Re: Naked (was Re: NON-SCAN: Seam's like 'chunk spirit) On Tue, 27 Feb 1996, Morten Wendell Pedersen wrote: > .....Stuff deleted > > hmm, so by your defintion "college rock" is not what the people attending > > college listens to but what the djs at the college radio stations likes > > to play.. so, who makes up the largest part of a college, the students > > attending the college or the djs at the college radio station..? > > Hey hey hey... one have to admit that the largest part of students > where ever they are have an extremly dull music taste... as Carl > pointed out (in his Wannadies review) all around him was listening to > Michael Bolton and liked it (well not not a the Wannadies gig.. you > know what I mean ;-) ) , and if someone are going to call Michael > Bolton for college rock I'm going to scream...very LOUD So I think the > definition of college rock as what is played on the college radio as > fair enough... even though that can be quite misleading too ;-) I don't even know why there is a debate about this! There is a VERY definite term, universally used in the industry, called "college radio". College radio is well-documented in the publication CMJ (College Music Journal).....we're talking about university radio stations here! The term college rock simply refers to those bands played on college radio. Trust me. It can encompass Superchunk and Seam, as well as stuff that now enjoys rotation on commercial radio like R.E.M. and Live (these 2 bands are still played on college radio stations - not all, but plenty; just check the CMJ). Bye, ---------------------- Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 19:11:48 +0100 From: d-sunjan@jmk.su.se (Jan Sundstrom) Subject: Re: > Sin's Selected News [26-Feb-96] >the Charlatans UK.... But actually I don't think that the little "the" >does any difference, people will still be confused. the "Mojave 3 " >trick was a bit bit more elegant and less confusing IMHO, i'm not to fond of numbers in band names. It's ok for Front 242, it's sort of anonymous, unpersonal, fitting for an electro act, but not for ex-Slowdive's warm soft music. And that "3" always reminds me of the abysmal Timbuk 3. Yuck! so my advice to Shallow: do what you want, but leave the numbers. Jan Sundstrom ------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 19:14:49 +0100 From: d-sunjan@jmk.su.se (Jan Sundstrom) Subject: Re: band names >* I'm a bit worried about Cessna myself -- the commercial world are >* worse on these things than other bands are. > >Yeah, we're going for the 'any publicity is good publicity' thang; >after they sue us we will be called Excessna, of course... :) Just like the extremely cheesy XC-NN (used to be CNN until them lawyers at the TV channel found out). Jan Sundstrom ----------------------- Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 20:57:21 +0200 (EET) From: trkisa@uta.fi (Kimmo Saaskilahti) Subject: Re: Shallow re-naming craze According to Jan Sundstrom: * IMHO, i'm not to fond of numbers in band names. It's ok for Front 242, it's * sort of anonymous, unpersonal, fitting for an electro act, but not for * ex-Slowdive's warm soft music. And that "3" always reminds me of the * abysmal Timbuk 3. Yuck! Err...what about Spacemen 3, 10,000 Maniacs...Tommy 16? Kimmo listening to "Serve The Shame" EP by Drain (10 Fmk from a local 2nd hand shop). ----------------------- Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 10:37:53 -0800 From: Christer Nilsson Subject: College Rock & Cardigans (was Re: NON-SCAN: Seam's like 'chunk spirit) Okeydokey, college radio debate settled. Right now The Cardigans are getting a lot of airplay on US college radio. They're up high on playlists both on the east- and westcoast. At my university they've held the no 2 slot for three weeks! Right now only Cibo Matto's 'VIVA! La Woman' is more popular. Not the success like hundreds of thousands records sold in Japan or the media hype like in Iceland, but still ;-) On now: The Softies - It's Love ------------------------- Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 22:45:13 +0100 From: d-sunjan@jmk.su.se (Jan Sundstrom) Subject: Olle Ljungstrom on P3 OK, so i fucked up again. I forgot to tape Olle Ljungstrom on P3 yesterday. Anyone recorded it, pleeeze??? Mail me private, and i'll reward you richly. :) Jan Sundstrom --------------------------- Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 04:27:37 +0100 (MET) From: chief@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: Cloudberry Jam in London On Mon, 26 Feb 1996, Sean Kyle-Price wrote: >> Cloudberry Jam - (NONS) have planned a release party in good old Link|ping >> British Unimedia Productions have booked a load of Swedish >> bands to play at the Dublin Castle club in London, and >> the first band to play there is.. yes, you guessed it, >> Cloudberry Jam. (Source: Sin, Topp40) > > You're kidding, right? Nope - it's the darn truth. > When are they playing? I talked to Jennie today, and she said it is on April 19th. She asked if I didn't want to go with them, though I don't think I can afford it, but who knows? > What other bands are playing? That she didn't know unfortunately. I guess they'll have more information on it in this week's issue of Topp40 (thursday) - if not, I'll see what I can find out elsewhere. And on Tue, 27 Feb 1996, Carl Bjorklund wrote: > Me too!! Where's the club? (I should know - I know!) When? How? > [giggle-giggle-giggle] If you find out - information about the club, where it is, what it's like and so on, please post the information to the list, as the band wanted to know more about the place too. Jennie has never been to London before, so she's not likely to know. :-) //Erik (chief@lysator.liu.se) ------------------------- Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 04:27:20 +0100 (MET) From: chief@lysator.liu.se Subject: FWD: Cardigans Concert Review - Berlin Just found this on another list I'm filling my mailbox with: //Erik (chief@lysator.liu.se) CONCERT REVIEW: The Cardigans, Huxley's, Berlin - Tim Mohr Returning to Berlin for their first concert in a proper venue, the Cardigans stimulated a minor frenzy in musical circles, many of which overlap when it comes to this Swedish band. Looking at the band work through the opening number, you'd think it was the Who or Fugazi bobbing, kicking, and jumping about. Close your eyes and the sound is utterly incongruous: silly melodies based on a skipping guitar and a tiny organ. After the opening two songs, Nina Persson addresses the sell-out crowd for the first time: "We are the Cardigans. We are from Sweden. We are not easy listening if that's what you were expecting." As Henry Miller could help to explain about the tiny blonde chanteuse, "Hers was the typical cold seductive charm of the Northern woman in whom prudery and lasciviousness battle for supremacy." Except that the battle rages largely in the audience for, though she seems without vulgarity of her own, the audience is certainly affected by a deeply carnal star presence. Impossibly earnest, cheeks highlighted with dimples, twirling one arm in a spritely indie-dance, the singer bewitches the audience with absolutely no effort, or rather - even more astonishing - while steadfastly refusing to do so. "This is an indie-pop song." The Cardigans run through one of their brilliantly peppy tunes. "We're so indie that I hope you don't confuse us with Oasis," says Persson with the first and only hint of irony displayed by the band. The Cardigans sprinkle their big singles "Carnival," "Sick & Tired," and "Hey! Get Out Of My Way" through the set, not bothering to save them for the encore. You keep expecting them to cover "Puff the Magic Dragon" but instead they do Thin Lizzy and Ozzy. They turn in a medley of their own "Celia Inside" and "The Boys Are Back in Town." Such whimsy delivered with utter sincerity is rare. The five Cardigans exit the stage amidst a lingering rasp of guitar and bass that results from a minute of rock extremity tacked onto the end of one of their infectious but harmless songs, but are beckoned back for two encores. Taking the stage for the second encore, Nina Persson explains, "We don't know any more songs. So we're going to borrow one from our good friends Black Sabbath. It's called `Sabbath Bloody Sabbath' and it's *really* serious." ---------------------------- Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 04:28:21 +0100 (MET) From: chief@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: Shallow(s) & Herrg}r'n Gig List On Tue, 20 Feb 1996, d-sunjan@jmk.su.se (Jan Sundstrom) wrote: > Yeah, i read a live review in Melody Maker, probably the UK Shallow. And a > friend of mine even has a livetape with'em (from 92). So "our" Shallow > better add something stupid to the end like "Shallow Sthlm"... Hint, > hint!!! And guess what - there's yet _another_ Shallow from Sweden (Link|ping in fact). So now there's four of them out there. Oh well. Anyway, here's the latest upcoming gigs list for Herrg}r'n, Link|ping: 29/2 - Ludo X 7/3 - Shallow (from Link|ping) 14/3 - Mindjive 21/3 - Naked (from Sweden) 28/3 - tba 11/4 - tba 18/4 - A Shrine So for you groups out there who want to play in Link|ping, please fill the two empty entries by sending demos/records/information or calling: Emil Larsson Engelbrektsgatan 8 <---- NOTE! New Address from March 4th. 582 21 Link|ping <---- NOTE! New Address from March 4th. SWEDEN Phone: +46-(0)13-124503 //Erik (chief@lysator.liu.se) ------------------------ End of SI Digest #3.14 **********************
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