Scandinavian Indie Digest Vol.4 Issue #27
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Digest
Vol.4 #27
July 15th, 1997
There are 46 messages totalling 1299 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. Teddybears + Fireside review (5)
2. Hellman vs Jumper (9)
3. bob hund at Kafe 44 (2)
4. Fwd: hello
5. Hellman vs Jumper II
6. Sobsister 7" (3)
7. shameless promoting... (2)
8. Buzz Aldrin Wednesday (2)
9. New Bomb Turks/Savage
10. Fidget..and other bands at Sommarens Sista Suck
11. Sin's Music on the Radio [16-Jun-97]
12. Room for Rent
13. Covers (and records for sale)
14. 1st Hultsfred report (8)
15. non scan (Bob Tilton) (3)
16. Tullakrok (2)
17. Sin's Music on the TV [13-Jun-97]
18. Bob Hund on MTV (possibly)
19. [Fwd: URGENT ! Cardigans stolen !]
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Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 19:56:41 +0200
From: Michael Rehnstrom
Subject: Re: Teddybears + Fireside review
Erik wrote:
>
>You forgot to mention that only one person stage dived during the
>whole night (when Fireside played). One. That describes the audience
>pretty well, doesn't it?
And so does this. The bands decided to "change names", ie The Teddybears
Sthlm told the audience that they were Fireside and Fireside said they were
called Teddybears. After the concerts there were people who really believed
that they had seen Fireside first and Teddybears last on stage. Quite
pathetic, paying to see bands and not even knowing which bands they are
seeing. I guess bands like Jumper are the only ones who can work in
arrangements like this. Starmarket were quite frustrated, last year, about
having to play for people who were more interested in the price for beer
than in the music.
BTW, speaking of Jumper. I am not a very religious type of guy but
"sacrilege" is the only word I can think of when I hear their cover version
of Jakob Hellmans "Hon har ett satt". Hope people, for once, realize that
there is an original version that is _so_ much better.
/Micke, cursing the fact that Cardigans and SPOCK are "colliding" at the
Hultsfred Festival (less than 2 days left :-):-):-)
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Date: 10 Jun 1997 20:46:35 +0200
From: Robert Cumming
Subject: Hellman vs Jumper
In article ,
Michael Rehnstrom wrote:
> BTW, speaking of Jumper. I am not a very religious type of guy but
> "sacrilege" is the only word I can think of when I hear their cover
> version of Jakob Hellmans "Hon har ett satt". Hope people, for once,
> realize that there is an original version that is _so_ much better.
I _completely_ disagree! I dug out an ancient tape with the Hellman
version on it at the weekend, and it confirmed my suspicions. The
Jumper version is a bit like how it should have been to start with.
What works really well, I think, is that the song is already the sort
of thing that Jumper do pretty well themselves, but with a bit extra.
One of the very few covers that work better than the original. (See
if I can think of any more: the Pet Shop Boys' 'Always on my mind',
Aknestik's 'Jossain', Cocteau Twins' 'Frosty the Snowman'...)
Robert, smak, det {r inte helt klart n}nting man har
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Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 23:43:01 +0200 (MET DST)
From: Martin Eksten
Subject: Re: Hellman vs Jumper
On 10 Jun 1997, Robert Cumming wrote:
> In article ,
> Michael Rehnstrom wrote:
> > BTW, speaking of Jumper. I am not a very religious type of guy but
> > "sacrilege" is the only word I can think of when I hear their cover
> > version of Jakob Hellmans "Hon har ett satt". Hope people, for once,
> > realize that there is an original version that is _so_ much better.
>
> I _completely_ disagree! I dug out an ancient tape with the Hellman
> version on it at the weekend, and it confirmed my suspicions. The
> Jumper version is a bit like how it should have been to start with.
> What works really well, I think, is that the song is already the sort
> of thing that Jumper do pretty well themselves, but with a bit extra.
I agree with Michael. The first, and only so far, time I heard Jumper's
version I thought it was a joke! The sad thing is that a lot of those
"teeny boppers", ie Jumper's fans, have probably never heard the original.
> One of the very few covers that work better than the original. (See
> if I can think of any more: the Pet Shop Boys' 'Always on my mind',
> Aknestik's 'Jossain', Cocteau Twins' 'Frosty the Snowman'...)
Not very Scan. Indie, but here we go: U2's Unchained Melody (as they did
it live during the 1992-1993 tours), R.E.M.'s Superman, Nirvana'a The Man
Wgo Sold The World (I _am_ a Bowie-fan, believe me!) and of course
Imperiet's Mark hur var skugga (not that I've heard the original, but who
has? ;).
Martin
Martin Eksten (eksten@df.lth.se)
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Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 22:38:48 +0200 (MET DST)
From: Martin Eksten
Subject: Re: Teddybears + Fireside review
On Tue, 10 Jun 1997, Michael Rehnstrom wrote:
> And so does this. The bands decided to "change names", ie The Teddybears
> Sthlm told the audience that they were Fireside and Fireside said they were
> called Teddybears. After the concerts there were people who really believed
> that they had seen Fireside first and Teddybears last on stage. Quite
> pathetic, paying to see bands and not even knowing which bands they are
> seeing. I guess bands like Jumper are the only ones who can work in
I disagree. Why shouldn't it be possible to just go to a concert to enjoy
the sound/noise of music without actually being a fan of the playing band?
Personally I probably wouldn't do it, as I seem to go to too many concerts
anyway, but I know a certain female friend of mine that would do it
anytime. She never buys any records and knows almost nothing about bands
(for instance she had never even heard of Oasis or Suede in February last
year!), but still she loves music and is constantly listening to the
radio.
Martin
Martin Eksten (eksten@df.lth.se)
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Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 21:55:46 -0400 (EDT)
From: Chris Forsberg
Subject: Re: Teddybears + Fireside review
On Tue, 10 Jun 1997, Martin Eksten wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Jun 1997, Michael Rehnstrom wrote:
>
> > And so does this. The bands decided to "change names", ie The Teddybears
> > Sthlm told the audience that they were Fireside and Fireside said they were
> > called Teddybears. After the concerts there were people who really believed
> > that they had seen Fireside first and Teddybears last on stage. Quite
> > pathetic, paying to see bands and not even knowing which bands they are
> > seeing. I guess bands like Jumper are the only ones who can work in
>
> I disagree. Why shouldn't it be possible to just go to a concert to enjoy
> the sound/noise of music without actually being a fan of the playing band?
Every once in a while I'm go to a certain club even if I haven't heard any
of the bands yet...sometimes it's because I've heard a buzz about one of
them, sometimes it's just to see something new; who knows, maybe one of
them will become a new fav? Notice I qualified that first sentence with
the word "certain" though...there are some clubs I wouldn't be caught dead
in unless a national act I liked was playing there. But there are one or
two around town that consistently have good shows and have a built-in
audience (as opposed to lots of other places which have bands but each
band brings in its own clique which *definitely* would never come see
another local band, they'll only go to see/support their friends).
Chris
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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 08:06:46 +0100
From: baars@bahnhof.se (Girilal Baars)
Subject: Re: Hellman vs Jumper
> and of course
> Imperiet's Mark hur var skugga (not that I've heard the original, but who
> has? ;).
Cornelis Vreeswijk does make Thastrom sound like a school boy tryin g to
impres his teachers, or more likely his classmates. You should try it.
Girilal Baars
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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 10:15:53 +0200
From: Marten.Sahlen@xt.etx.ericsson.se (Marten Sahlen)
Subject: Re: Teddybears + Fireside review
Michael Rehnstrom
> Quite pathetic, paying to see bands and not even knowing which bands they
> seeing. I guess bands like Jumper are the only ones who can work in are
> arrangements like this.
That is certainly a moot point. At least I disagree completely with it.
Some of my most enjoyable concert experiences have been with bands I hadn't
previously heard (although I might have read about them in some music rag),
i.e. U2 in 1981, Theatre of Hate in 82, Wall of Voodoo in 86, and
Stereolab two years ago at Studion. Going to see a band in this sort of
situation may of course be a hit or miss, but at least you're not trapped
with any preconceptions about what it's supposed to sound like which more
often than not boosts the experience. Simply put: you can take in the show
with a wide open mind. If then it happens to be a double/triple bill, and
some band member deliberately gives the wrong name, who am I to question that?
> Starmarket were quite frustrated, last year, about
> having to play for people who were more interested in the price for beer
> than in the music.
I can agree with this, however. I never understood the white trash kids
that go to Hultsfred just to never leave the camping area.
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Date: 11 Jun 1997 11:37:01 +0200
From: Robert Cumming
Subject: Re: Hellman vs Jumper
In article ,
Martin Eksten wrote:
> On 10 Jun 1997, Robert Cumming wrote:
> >
> > One of the very few covers that work better than the original. (See
> > if I can think of any more: the Pet Shop Boys' 'Always on my mind',
> > Aknestik's 'Jossain', Cocteau Twins' 'Frosty the Snowman'...)
>
> Not very Scan. Indie, but here we go: U2's Unchained Melody (as they did
> it live during the 1992-1993 tours), R.E.M.'s Superman, Nirvana'a The Man
> Wgo Sold The World (I _am_ a Bowie-fan, believe me!) and of course
> Imperiet's Mark hur var skugga (not that I've heard the original, but who
> has? ;).
A few more I forgot... Everything But the Girl's 'Night and Day',
David Byrne's 'Don't fence me in', Pop Wallpaper's 'Strawberry Letter
23' [anyone who's heard that one gets a free beer], Dr and the Medics
'Spirit in the Sky', La Belle Epoque's 'Black is Black', Kirsty
MacColl's 'A New England', Bjorn Again's 'A little respect',
Blancmange's 'The day before you came' [which maybe even counts as
scan-indie :-]...
Robert
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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 13:20:29 +0300 (EET DST)
From: Pete Korhonen
Subject: Re: Hellman vs Jumper
On 11 Jun 1997, Robert Cumming wrote:
> In article ,
> > Martin Eksten wrote:
> >
> > > On 10 Jun 1997, Robert Cumming wrote:
> > >
> > > One of the very few covers that work better than the original. (See
> > > if I can think of any more: the Pet Shop Boys' 'Always on my mind',
> > > Aknestik's 'Jossain', Cocteau Twins' 'Frosty the Snowman'...)
> >
> > Not very Scan. Indie, but here we go: U2's Unchained Melody (as they did
> > it live during the 1992-1993 tours), R.E.M.'s Superman, Nirvana'a The Man
> > Wgo Sold The World (I _am_ a Bowie-fan, believe me!) and of course
> > Imperiet's Mark hur var skugga (not that I've heard the original, but who
> > has? ;).
>
> A few more I forgot... Everything But the Girl's 'Night and Day',
> David Byrne's 'Don't fence me in', Pop Wallpaper's 'Strawberry Letter
> 23' [anyone who's heard that one gets a free beer], Dr and the Medics
> 'Spirit in the Sky', La Belle Epoque's 'Black is Black', Kirsty
> MacColl's 'A New England', Bjorn Again's 'A little respect',
> Blancmange's 'The day before you came' [which maybe even counts as
> scan-indie :-]...
How about Enter playing Bad Brains' Pay To Come...
live - not recorded
Pete
/enter
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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 13:54:32 +0200 (MET DST)
From: Martin Eksten
Subject: Re: Hellman vs Jumper
On Wed, 11 Jun 1997, Girilal Baars wrote:
> > and of course
> > Imperiet's Mark hur var skugga (not that I've heard the original, but who
> > has? ;).
>
> Cornelis Vreeswijk does make Thåström sound like a school boy tryin g to
> impres his teachers, or more likely his classmates. You should try it.
Really? I have honestly never heard Vreeswijk's version, but maybe I
should!
Martin
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Date: 11 Jun 97 15:34:21 +0000
From: "toby"
Subject: bob hund at Kafe 44
While some of you are discussing the pros and cons of Jakob Hellman
and Jumper (who never ever will have anything to do with INDIEPOP -
sort of like comparing the young Elvis Costello with Hanson - there,
now the non swedes will get what you're all on about) I spent last
night drinking coffee, pogoing and smiling like a madman at the bob
hund show at Stockholms Kafe 44.
The band got on at 8PM and the place was packed with underage thrill
seekers - all-age-shows are always a notch above the rest - (people
were even getting refunds cause they couldn't see anything).
Perspiration was dripping off the ceiling and the bob hund boys pulled
their most astonishing moves. New songs! Old songs! Favorite songs! It
was one of those evenings when the world indeed is a good place to be
alive.
Johnny Essing played standing up (look kids no chair!!!) - Conny had
the most outstanding Ralf Edstrom hairdo, complete with the freaky
sideburns (marcus grimsbyfishmarket must be so proud to see his band
sporting such style) - Jonas had a new synthesiezer a Roland SH 1000 -
and Thomas bruised himself quite badly falling backwards onto the
stage.
Too bad most of you were missing out on the ACTION and the THRILLS!
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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 17:52:06 +0200
From: j.sundstrom@ekuc.se (Jan Sundstrom)
Subject: Re: bob hund at Kafe 44
thobjon@algonet.se,Internet writes:
> spent last night drinking coffee, pogoing and smiling like a madman at
> the bob hund show at Stockholms Kafe 44.
Shit man, why didn't I know this before?!?
OK; maybe i don't read my mail carefully enough, and maybe our server
has been down for five days, but this don't happen to me.
I never used to miss a BH gig. :~(
Did they play any new songs *sob*
Jan
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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 18:16:05 +0200
From: shallow.soundwave@mailbox.calypso.net
Subject: Fwd: hello
Om du vill se oss igen sa spelar vi antagligen i Stockholm igen
i Augusti. Da blir det pa Studion eller nagot av Bottleneckstallena.
Angaende demo sa har vi varken nagra kopior av bade den nya och den
gamla kvar. Men vi gar snart in i studion igen for att spela in.
Halsningar Shallow Soundwave
PS. Menar du inte Backyard Babies istallet for Backstreet Boys? BsB ar
ju ett sant dar Pojkband.
;-) He he, sorry for messing up BsB with Backyard Babies in my recent
review!!! Nicolas says they're playin in August in Stockholm, and that
they're going to do some studio recording soon.
Good news, or what!
Jan
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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 19:44:19 +0200
From: Michael Rehnstrom
Subject: Re: Hellman vs Jumper
Robert Cumming wrote:
> Michael Rehnstrom wrote:
>>
>> BTW, speaking of Jumper. I am not a very religious type of guy but
>> "sacrilege" is the only word I can think of when I hear their cover
>> version of Jakob Hellmans "Hon har ett satt". Hope people, for once,
>> realize that there is an original version that is _so_ much better.
>
> I _completely_ disagree! I dug out an ancient tape with the Hellman
> version on it at the weekend, and it confirmed my suspicions. The
> Jumper version is a bit like how it should have been to start with.
> What works really well, I think, is that the song is already the sort
> of thing that Jumper do pretty well themselves, but with a bit extra.
What a...? What an activity! I thought you were all sleeping in tents in
Hultsfred already :-). Anyway, this Jumper vs Hellman topic is another one
of those topics were subjectivity is inevitable. And, I have to admit, I am
not the least objective when it comes to Jakob Hellman, I consider "...och
stora havet" to be one of the best swedish albums ever made. That doesn´t
mean the cover versions of the songs on it have to be bad (even if they
cannot be better) and I really made an effort and tried to listen to
Jumpers version. But after having been thrown between those violins and the
guitars for some minutes my ear drums felt like two extremely well used
doormats. Nope, I will continue listening to Jakob and forget about the
existence of this other version.
> One of the very few covers that work better than the original. (See
> if I can think of any more: the Pet Shop Boys' 'Always on my mind',
> Aknestik's 'Jossain', Cocteau Twins' 'Frosty the Snowman'...)
Well, since other people have started mentioning Bellman I find it
inevitable to mention Fred Akerstroms "Glimrande nymf". And then we have
that australian band, whose name I should remember, who did a great version
of Pet Shop Boys "Rent" on the "Absolut Hultsfred" album.
> Robert, smak, det {r inte helt klart n}nting man har
/Micke, "Natten är vacker och månen är full
Du är som natten och jag är som månen" (J. Hellman)
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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 19:59:23 +0200
From: Michael Rehnstrom
Subject: Re: Teddybears + Fireside review
Martin Eksten wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Jun 1997, Michael Rehnstrom wrote:
>
>> And so does this. The bands decided to "change names", ie The Teddybears
>> Sthlm told the audience that they were Fireside and Fireside said they were
>> called Teddybears. After the concerts there were people who really believed
>> that they had seen Fireside first and Teddybears last on stage. Quite
>> pathetic, paying to see bands and not even knowing which bands they are
>> seeing. I guess bands like Jumper are the only ones who can work in
>
> I disagree. Why shouldn't it be possible to just go to a concert to enjoy
> the sound/noise of music without actually being a fan of the playing band?
And Chris Forsberg wrote:
> Every once in a while I'm go to a certain club even if I haven't heard any
> of the bands yet...sometimes it's because I've heard a buzz about one of
> them, sometimes it's just to see something new; who knows, maybe one of
> them will become a new fav?
Hmm, I guess this is partly because of the fact that I am a master in
making myself unclear and partly because you don´t know about the nature of
this specific event. I don´t find it pathetic to go and see bands you have
never heard before, I do that all the time myself and I will probably spend
the next three days seeing a lot of new bands. What I find pathetic is that
the people who visit "Sommar-X" don´t even _care_ about which bands are
playing. What they care about is what is happening after the concerts -
disco with "Bailando", "Macarena" and you name 'em and everyone getting so
pathetically drunk that they won´t even remember if they have seen any
bands at all.
/Micke, going home and packing his bags right now :-):-):-)
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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 22:52:10 +0200
From: Cilja Kwon
Subject: Re: Hellman vs Jumper
Hey the most important with Jakob is his voice.
And the Jumper singer dont have that hmn... wonderful voice ;)
So the cover is really boring and with no feeling.
haha
Daniel
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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 23:24:36 +0200
From: Cilja Kwon
Subject: Re: Hellman vs Jumper II
Hey i got an lame idea!
Would have been more fun if Honey is Cool did the cover in english ;)
Karin Dreijer! More fun than Kent doin it anyway ... Jumpers cover is...
boring. Boring arrangements... His voice is too boring compared to Jakobs,
where the most of the song is in his special voice and how he sings it and
how he say the words ...
You loose that in Jumpers version. Also i dont think Jumpers version is
... ahhh nevermind... Jumpers version is to predictable...
Kill me..
Daniel
PS. Honey is Cools album "Crazy Love" is very good. Taste it ;)
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Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 12:17:56 +0200 (MET DST)
From: Sevenius Jonas
Subject: Re: Sobsister 7"
heyhello,
is that sobsisters 7" a joint-release with DARLA or did juan do it
alone??? just curious.
jonas
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Date: 12 Jun 97 13:53:00 +0000
From: "toby"
Subject: RE: Sobsister 7"
Jonas wondered if the Sobsister 7" was a split release with the
gracious folks at Darla Records but I think it's a Freak Scene only
release. There are no signs of the beautiful Darla logo anywhere on
the sleeve but who knows. Juan and the folks at Darla are pretty close
knit.
Anorak Choice of the week------------------> "My Boy Says" - Talulah
Gosh - pure summer thrills
Dull Rockishness ------> Hultsfred Festival - who needs another ARENA
showoff from Suede and their ilk.
Be sweet / Toby
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Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 15:31:06 +0200 (MET DST)
From: Sevenius Jonas
Subject: shameless promoting...
heyhello, i recently joined the list so i thought i'd make a basic
presentation of what i do.. My name is Jonas and i run the not-too-famous
SLOWBALL label from stockholm. Interested or not... here is our discography:
slowball 1 - RELEASE CITY - tape comp. the line-up includes the mountain
goats, push kings, will simmons, nothing painted blue (USA), bent spanner
arty banner, pluxus, phlegm, in a spring (sweden), national heroes, brown
tower (UK), furtips, bingo trappers (netherlands), wio, mote,
dodes'ka-den (belgium) plus a few more bands. it is 60 minutes long.
actually sold out but RE-RELEASE CITY will be out in july.
slowball 2 - PUSH KINGS 7" - the park/jesse janowitz
also this release is sold out. a re-release may or may not
show up in the future. watch out for the new issue of sound affects. Push
kings are on the cover and there is an article about them.
slowball 3 - PHLEGM/6 CENTS & NATALIE split 7". 2 songs by swedish
bi-fiers phlegm & 2 by sean from tully craft (USA). this is delayed but
will be released in a week or so.
slowball 4 - PLUXUS "music inspired by the arcitechture of Kennedy
international airport" 60 min tape. debut release by these
space-yougsters from stockholm. beats-oriented space with distinct
melodies. recomended!
upcomming: new PLUXUS tape in july, PLUXUS 10 or 12" after the summer,
IOTA 7" after summer (post-rock per defenition from gothenburg) plus more
stuff by phlegm and more.
we also plan to arrange a festival in stockholm called KRAUTSTOCK. At
this point we can not tell you exactly where or when. But rest assures, i
wuill send info to the list. This far the bill includes PLUXUS, IOTA,
EFQ-project. More to come
also avalible form slowball is the PHLEGM releases on losercore and i
also believe i have a few copies left of that first Push Kings 7" on
Chunk.
any questions on the releases or krautstock - just drop me a line.
sorry to fill yr mailbox. take care,
jonas
on behalf of slowball recordings
(t-sevjon@jmk.su.se)
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Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 16:05:00 +0200
From: Calle Jershed
Subject: Buzz Aldrin Wednesday
Dear popheads,
does anybody outthere know anything about the band Buzz Aldrin Wednesday? I
belive the singer is american, but the other two in the band is swedish.
Saw them before Fidget @ Studion a couple of weeks ago and they were quite
cool.
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Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 18:07:38 +0200
From: beluga@wineasy.se
Subject: RE: Sobsister 7"
> Jonas wondered if the Sobsister 7" was a split release with the gracious
> folks at Darla Records but I think it's a Freak Scene only release. There
> are no signs of the beautiful Darla logo anywhere on the sleeve but who
> knows. Juan and the folks at Darla are pretty close knit.
>
> Anorak Choice of the week------------------> "My Boy Says" - Talulah Gosh
> - pure summer thrills
> Dull Rockishness ------> Hultsfred Festival - who needs another ARENA
> showoff from Suede and their ilk.
>
> Be sweet / Toby
Can anyone tell me what the tracks are called??
ha, just got the new POP,#25 and there is a page on this single,
Trevor
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Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 18:41:19 +0200
From: beluga@wineasy.se
Subject: New Bomb Turks/Savage
Hi Folks,
just to let you all know that
The NEW BOMB TURKS are playing in Stockholm on tuesday at the studio,
be there!!!!!!!!!!!
also
The new issue of the Swedish fanzine "SAVAGE" is out!!
you can read out nice bands like The Hynomen, Dee Rangers, The Splash Four,
ELECTRIC FRANKENSTEIN, Oblivians (again) Guitar wolf etc
also coming to Sweden are The X-rays (England) and The Splash four (France).
Trevor
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Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 01:51:55 +0200 (MET DST)
From: hans.lindell@rockfile.se
Subject: Fidget..and other bands at Sommarens Sista Suck
Program for the 7th " Sommarens Sista Suck "
- The last outdoor popfestival in Eskilstuna,Sweden the year 1997
Date: 22-23/8
Opening hours : 18.00 - 24.00
Place: Stadsparken , Eskilstuna,Sweden
Price: Free !
Website: www.sfr.se/avd/0405/sommarens.sista.html
e-mail: suck@rockfile.se
Info: + 46 ( 0 ) 16 -12 53 40 / +46 (0)70 511 45 64
Fax: + 46 (0)16 - 13 46 11
Fri 22/8 Sat 23/8
18.00 Ruthlezz D's The Snails
19.00 Gentle Tuesday Coaster
20.00 Panic Divin
21.00 Peat Polythene
22.00 Wellmeant Blush
23.00 Robot Fidget
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Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 02:04:19 +0200 (MET DST)
From: chief@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Sin's Music on the Radio [16-Jun-97]
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Scandinavian Indie MUSIC ON THE RADIO Scandinavian Indie
June 16 -> 19
by Erik Soderstrom (chief@lysator.liu.se)
Day Date Artist Recorded
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Mon 16/6 Lars Demian Stockholm, Studion 08-Apr-97
Tue 17/6 Billy Bragg (R) Stockholm, Gino 14-Oct-96
Wed 18/6 Herbaliser G|teborg, V}gen 07-May-97
Thu 19/6 Sick Of It All Stockholm, Studion 13-May-97
This list covers the Swedish National Channel P3's "Live" - at 21.03-22.00
or 18.03-19.00 where marked with a '*'. (R) = Rerun
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This list is also available on the Scandinavian Indie WWW pages
at: http://www.lysator.liu.se/~chief/uprad.html
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Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 18:04:41 PDT
From: "Brown"
Subject: Room for Rent
Between Woodside & Selby; Redwood City, CA
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8x in 6 years, and I lived in Denmark and Sweden. I'm an American, 25,
prof M who has a room for rent in Redwood City (between Woodside &
Selby) for $850 and 1/2 Utils.. This is a 1,290sf house with a front
yard and a garden. I don't care if you smoke, though I don't. Must be
clean. Short-term is O.K.
415-364-5200
--------------------------
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 08:58:59 +0200
From: Marten.Sahlen@xt.etx.ericsson.se (Marten Sahlen)
Subject: Re: Buzz Aldrin Wednesday
Calle Jershed
> does anybody outthere know anything about the band Buzz Aldrin Wednesday? I
> belive the singer is american, but the other two in the band is swedish.
> Saw them before Fidget @ Studion a couple of weeks ago and they were quite
> cool.
Hmmm, I was there too, but I found them pretty awful. Just plain
run-of-the-mill pop. Like the person they took their name from, they
will always be one step behind, ha!
Why didn't Fidget play 'Semi-naked' at this show? Daniel??
---------------------------
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 09:24:24 +0200
From: Marten.Sahlen@xt.etx.ericsson.se (Marten Sahlen)
Subject: Re: shameless promoting...
Sevenius Jonas wrote:
> heyhello, i recently joined the list so i thought i'd make a basic
> presentation of what i do.. My name is Jonas and i run the not-too-famous
> SLOWBALL label from stockholm.
Hey, keep up the good work. Good to see that someone is giving
space/postrock a home in Stockholm.
> slowball 4 - PLUXUS "music inspired by the arcitechture of Kennedy
> international airport" 60 min tape. debut release by these
> space-yougsters from stockholm.
Definitely recommended! Pluxus did a good first ever show last month
when they opened up for the seminal English industrial/ambient band
Zoviet-France (read about them in the new issue of Pop) at Kafe 44.
That will prove to be a night to cherish forever...
> we also plan to arrange a festival in stockholm called KRAUTSTOCK. At
> this point we can not tell you exactly where or when. But rest assures, i
> wuill send info to the list. This far the bill includes PLUXUS, IOTA,
> EFQ-project. More to come
Shouldn't it be F.EQ. Project? In any case, I urge anyone who has ever
been seriously into bands like Spacemen 3, Fuxa, or E.A.R. to check out
these guys from Lidingo (formerly known as Radiance, btw). Their live show
is a total mindfuck... walls of droning guitars paired with space-y noise
from analogue synths, backed up by a live dummer laying out desolate beats.
Do keep us informed about that Krautstock thingy.
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 97 10:46:05 +0200
From: ludde@kore.lk.se (Ludvig Borgne)
Subject: Covers (and records for sale)
Hi all,
This discussion about covers made me start thinking about if there are any
really good covers made by scan-indie bands, and the only really great one
I could think of was How Do I's version of ABBA's Knowing Me Knowing You.
Then there are some OK ones, like Wannadies - Blister In The Sun, Poverty
Stinks - Paranoid and Cardigans - Sabbath Bloody Sabbath.
Can't say I'm particularly interested in hearing about other people's best
of lists, but they're fun to come up with, so here are some favoutite non-
scan-indie covers of mine too... :) Low - Transmission, Swans - Love Will
Tear Us Apart, Flying Saucer Attack - Outdoor Miner and Dinosaur Jr - Just
Like Heaven.
On a completely different note... My CD collection is growing too much too
fast, and I've decided to try and sell off some of the stuff I never listen
to, or for some other reason don't need. I've put togeteher a list of some
150 CDs that are all for sale, for decent prices. Mainly english/american
indie/alternative from the 80's and 90's, and some swedish stuff as well.
I won't waste bandwidth by sending the list to the list, so if you're
interested, send me a mail and I'll send it to you.
/Ludde
--------------------------------
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 17:02:59 +0100
From: baars@bahnhof.se (Girilal Baars)
Subject: Re: Hellman vs Jumper
> Well, since other people have started mentioning Bellman I find it
> inevitable to mention Fred Akerstroms "Glimrande nymf".
Bellman - the first Scandinavian Independent Rocker ever?!
Girilal
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Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 19:26:29 +0200
From: Michael Rehnstrom
Subject: 1st Hultsfred report
Just a brief report for those who were not at the Hultsfred festival.
My eyes are filled with dust, my ears are screaming, my feet aching badly
and my body feels as if most of the more than 20 000 visitors have bumped
into me at least one time each. Still, my lips are smiling, because it was
just as fun as usual and the people visiting the festival were nicer than
ever.
I have to admit that I neglected the scan-indie bands somewhat, which is
quite understandable with so many great concerts with The Charlatans
(groovy!), Wu-Tang Clan (double-groovy!), Rage Against The Machine (can
thousands of people shouting "you got a bullet in your fucking head" be
wrong? ehh, well..), Baby Bird and Nick Cave (though I have to admit that
Kylie Minogue sings the Elisa Day-part in "where the wild roses grow"
somewhat better than Blixa Bargeld do. But Blixa is still the coolest guy
on a stage). Also, you are welcome to try but I think you will find it
quite hard to convince me that The Prodigy is _not_ the best live-act in
the world right now. They were brutal the last time I saw them and the new
guitar-player has only reinforced this feeling.
Scandinavian bands then. Well, I found Petrol even lamer than last time I
heard them - they just don't act as if they relize they are on stage. And
they still use the same boring Nick Borgen-jokes. I just feel empty after a
Petrol gig (sorry Erik, just my personal opinion).
The Wannadies and Bob Hund were just as usual. I almost wish that they
would do a really bad gig once in a while, just to show people they know
how to do it, show that they are normal human beings (well, Wannadies are
quite "normal" on their records). But not this time, they were both great.
So were Eggstone, it must be quite hard to fail with that last, ace, record
out. Both Loosegoats and The Soundtrack Of Our Lives suffered, in my
opinion, from having to play too early in the day. It was very hot during
daytime and you had to concentrate on staying alive rather than on
listening to music.
Finally, I have to tell you about the SPOCK gig. This space-synth trio has
never been criticized for making revolutionizing and innovative music and
they have developed in a slightly less dramatic way than, say, Erasure and
Status Quo during the years. But what is so special with a SPOCK gig is
that you find yourself in a completely, fantastically, madly devoted crowd
who knows every word the band sings and who turns the whole area into a
dancing inferno. I don't know about any other band who has a crowd of fans
like this one. The "theater barn", where the concert was held, was
over-crowded. The feeling of devotedness (is that the right word?) spreads
even to those who are not fans and those people who didn't dance when
"Never trust a klingon" was played were probably already dead when they
arrived. End
/Micke, who also saw rock icon Jocke Thastrom live for the first time ever
(with his industry synth project Peace, Love And Pitbulls) but is waiting
for a machine which can take him back to Ragsved '78 instead
-----------------------------
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 19:35:42 +0200
From: Michael Rehnstrom
Subject: Re: 1st Hultsfred report
J. Nilsson (iggystooge) wrote:
>> /Micke, who also saw rock icon Jocke Thastrom live for the first time ever
>> (with his industry synth project Peace, Love And Pitbulls) but is waiting
>> for a machine which can take him back to Ragsved '78 instead
>
> and for the first time in 7 years he played swedish songs too, two imperiet
> and one of his solo songs.
And for some strange reason their versions of these old songs sounded
heavier than the Peace, Love And Pitbulls stuff. I think it is OK when
artists keep a moderately low volume at their gigs but industry synth or
industry techno, whatever PLP is playing, should be at a _high_ volume,
IMO. It was a bit too lame for me.
Speaking of high volume, I watched the former death metal (now just _very_
heavy metal) band Entombed play too and I kind of enjoyed it. OK, I was
watching it from a "safe" distance but there are some tracks on their
latest album "To ride, shoot straight and speak the truth" that are quite
good (especially, I like the title track). If they could just get rid of
that fake satanism stuff...
/Micke, still having a far too severe headache to start head-banging, though
---------------------------------
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 21:01:59 +0200
From: iggystooge.livevid@mailbox.swipnet.se
Subject: Re: 1st Hultsfred report
>J. Nilsson (iggystooge) wrote:
>
>>>/Micke, who also saw rock icon Jocke Thastrom live for the first time ever
>>>(with his industry synth project Peace, Love And Pitbulls) but is waiting
>>>for a machine which can take him back to Ragsved '78 instead
>>
>>and for the first time in 7 years he played swedish songs too, two imperiet
>>and one of his solo songs.
>
>And for some strange reason their versions of these old songs sounded
>heavier than the Peace, Love And Pitbulls stuff. I think it is OK when
>artists keep a moderately low volume at their gigs but industry synth or
>industry techno, whatever PLP is playing, should be at a _high_ volume,
>IMO. It was a bit too lame for me.
someone mentioned that PLP did played those songs on their ordinary tour
this spring too. i didnt seen any of their gigs before hultsfred, this
year, so i dont know if its true or not. i agree that it wasnt too high, i
even was able to speak with me friend during the gig, and thats far to low
for the music PLP is playing ;o)
>Speaking of high volume, I watched the former death metal (now just _very_
>heavy metal) band Entombed play too and I kind of enjoyed it. OK, I was
>watching it from a "safe" distance but there are some tracks on their
>latest album "To ride, shoot straight and speak the truth" that are quite
>good (especially, I like the title track). If they could just get rid of
>that fake satanism stuff...
i watched it from very close, on the stage ;o) i thought it was a very good
gig, and their version of roky ericksons "night of the vampire" was better
than ever before. fake satanism is far much better than true belivers, than
the mid 80s W.A.S.P. and Venom ;o)
j.nilsson
----------------------------
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 17:11:23 +0200
From: beluga@wineasy.se
Subject: non scan (Bob Tilton)
Hi all, Can one of you nice peaple help me?
Bob Tilton is playing in Sweden this week, but I don't know where,
anyone Help???
Trevor
----------------------------
From: "Tobias Hulten"
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 05:09:25 PDT
Subject: Tullakrok
Hello!
Does anyone know who is going to play at Tullakrok in Angelholm 19-20 of
July?
/tobias
----------------------------
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 17:21:36 +0200
From: beluga@wineasy.se
Subject: Tullakrok
> Hello!
>
> Does anyone know who is going to play at Tullakrok in Angelholm 19-20 of
> July?
Loosegoats,Dipper, Mopeds, Backyard Babies m.fl
source Sound Affects
Origanal Sin, Driller Killer, Mopeds, Dipper, Bug Squard, Stargazer,
ostblocket,, Wakey, Billy Brave, Limepit, Doss Pang, mfl
source Puls
Trevor
-----------------------------
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 08:09:30 +0200 (MET DST)
From: chief@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Sin's Music on the TV [13-Jun-97]
Sorry about the delay of this list - my Internet provider has been
down for a systems upgrade during the last couple of days.
//Erik
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Scandinavian Indie MUSIC ON THE TV Scandinavian Indie
June 13 -> 19
by Erik Soderstrom (chief@lysator.liu.se)
Day Date Artist/What TV Program Channel Time
--- ----- ---------------------- ------------------- ----------- -----
Fri 13/6 -
Sat 14/6 Leningrad Cowboys Concert Part 1 FTV 18.35
Rock Am Ring 97 Highlights MTV Europe 23.00
Sun 15/6 Fireside Present ZTV 17.15 R
Leningrad Cowboys Concert Part 2 FTV 17.30
Mon 16/6 Morphine, Little Axe,
Troggs, Terrorvision,
Ray Davis & Damon
Albarn The White Room ZTV 19.00
Live Concerts Extranummer SVT 2 21.45
Jumper, Paul Oxley.. Popkalaset 1997 FTV 22.00
Tue 17/6 Bob Hund Present ZTV 18.15 R
Musikmagasinet Musikmagasinet ZTV 20.15
Rock Am Ring 97 Highlights MTV Europe 21.30
Alternative Nation Alternative Nation MTV Europe 00.00
Hotel Babylon Hotel Babylon TV 4 01.30 R
Wed 18/6 -
Thu 19/6 Finnish Top List Lista FTV 17.40
Heather Nova, Bluetones,
Terence Trent D'Arby,
Cocteau Twins,
Brand New Heavies,
Gwen Dickey, Lippy Lou The White Room ZTV 19.45
Musikmagasinet Musikmagasinet ZTV 20.45 R
No Doubt Live in Stockholm SVT 1 23.35
R = Rerun
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Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 17:37:26 +0200
From: Michael Rehnstrom
Subject: Bob Hund on MTV (possibly)
Some of you might find it interesting to watch MTV Europe's Alternative
Nation on tuesday (the 24th). I have received a hint, via e-mail from alt
nation, that they might play "Dusseldorf" on that show. I hope it is true,
it would be the third time during just a few weeks that they play Bob Hund
on the show (they have played "Istallet for musik - forvirring" two times).
Bob Hund which, btw, also did a magnificient festival gig. And I mean
_festival gig_ which means that they did not just play their latest record
but also all their "old" classics like "fotoalbumet", "Graslok och
fagelsang", "Mer an sa kan ingen bli" and so on.
/Micke
P.s I am not on my backyard when discussing metal bands. Perhaps you
noticed that yesterday when I claimed to have seen Entombed with Messiah
Marcolin on vocals. He was never in Entombed. I meant Jonny Dordevic.
Sorry! d.s
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 12:51:41 +0200 (MET DST)
From: Per L}ngstr|m
Subject: Re: non scan (Bob Tilton)
On Mon, 16 Jun 1997 beluga@wineasy.se wrote:
> Hi all, Can one of you nice peaple help me?
>
> Bob Tilton is playing in Sweden this week, but I don't know where,
> anyone Help???
oh my god. bob tilton is touring sweden as of _this week_?!?! i had no
idea.. where and when don't matter, this is by far one of britain's finest
bands around. they sound a bit like rodan would have if they had been out
of washington d.c. and signed to dischord, instead of being out of
louisville, kentucky and on touch&go/quarterstick!
fans of fireside/him kerosene should take note. i think you'd enjoy the
show, even though bob tilton is a bit more complex and intense than
sweden's own purveyors of fine rock.
this is one concert i have to see! so, please, help me and trevor out if
you can.
.per
----------------------------------
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 13:32:37 +0200
From: Nicolas Moch
Subject: [Fwd: URGENT ! Cardigans stolen !]
On Monday night, a white van Hyundai was stolen in Gothenburg, Sweden.
It contained among other things material belonging to the Cardigans :
A unique Ludwig drumkit (beginning 60s) in three-color plastic (white
red, blue)
A Marshall JTM 45 4x12 from 1965
A Marshall 4x12 from 1968
An Ampeg SVT II with a 8x10 cabinet.
A Roland XP 50
A Gibson -Les Paul Signature-bas from 1974 (gold)
A Gibson SG special TV Yellow from 1961
An acoustic guitar Martin 0001
A pedal board for guitar.
Everything is in flightcases marked with "The Cardigans".
Many of these instruments are unique and especially built, and are
impossible to sell, and are therefore worthless for those who took them.
Every buyer of music instruments is warned.
The Cardigans would very much like to regain possessionof these things ,
that have a great and irreplacable value for them, and thank everyone
who can help with the recovery of these items.
Help will be rewarded.
Please, if you have any information, contact Motor AB + 46 31-701 69 50
or via the Media,
Thanks for your help.
/Nicolas
---------------------------------
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 00:27:58 +0200 (MET DST)
From: Petter Tiilikainen
Subject: Re: 1st Hultsfred report
According to iggystooge.livevid@mailbox.swipnet.se:
> i watched it from very close, on the stage ;o) i thought it was a very good
> gig, and their version of roky ericksons "night of the vampire" was better
> than ever before. fake satanism is far much better than true belivers, than
> the mid 80s W.A.S.P. and Venom ;o)
They play that song live too? Yay, I guess I have something to look forward
to when/if I got see them when they come to Pitea. Roky Erickson doesn't
have anything to do with satanism, fake or not though.
I I I think of Demons,
Petter
---------------------------
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 01:17:57 +0200
From: iggystooge.livevid@mailbox.swipnet.se
Subject: Re: 1st Hultsfred report
>>> i watched it from very close, on the stage ;o) i thought it was a very
>>> good gig, and their version of roky ericksons "night of the vampire" was
>>> better than ever before. fake satanism is far much better than true
>>> belivers, than the mid 80s W.A.S.P. and Venom ;o)
>>
>> They play that song live too? Yay, I guess I have something to look forward
>> to when/if I got see them when they come to Piteå. Roky Erickson doesn't
>> have anything to do with satanism, fake or not though.
i think they played it on all 3 gigs ive seen with entombed since march 96
tour, so i guess they will play it for you too. but he got something to do
with demons and hellhounds right? ;o)
j.nilsson
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 19:29:21 +0200
From: Michael Rehnstrom
Subject: re: 1st Hultsfred report
I have managed to lose som of the old messages I've received but I think
you know which ones I am replying to.
First of all: I think it is correct that PLP has played old Imperiet and
Thastrom songs earlier on their tour, that is what I have heard too. I just
don't get it, why? In interviews some years ago Thastrom claimed that he
detested everything he had done earlier and that he would never look back,
just forward. Now suddenly, at the age of 40, he is turning around and
looking back. It is not that I dislike these songs but I am just wondering
if it is not just a desperate attempt to win back his "old fans" from the
80s and late 70s. Well, anyways, I hope he starts looking forward again, it
would be sad if he ended his career with a swedish version of Die Krupps
(no way PLP is a swedish version of Ministry, as some people claim it is).
So, "Night of the vampire" was the Roky Erickson cover Entombed had
recorded. I am not an Erickson specialist so I wasn't sure. It did sound
great and I have a strong feeling it was somewhat heavier than the original
:-). I just don't understand how so, after what I have heard from others,
nice people can transform and become so aggressive on stage (even if former
vocalist Messiah Marcolin had a much more aggressive voice (or "growl")
than L-G Petrov, as far as I can remember from last time I saw them live
3-4 years ago).
/Micke, who also thougt it was quite fun when Nick Cave forgot the text to
"Into my arms" and said it was because he was disturbed by the bass
players' swaying hips :-)
-------------------------------
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 20:30:41 +0200 (MET DST)
From: Petter Tiilikainen
Subject: Re: 1st Hultsfred report
According to Michael Rehnstrom:
> So, "Night of the vampire" was the Roky Erickson cover Entombed had
> recorded. I am not an Erickson specialist so I wasn't sure. It did sound
> great and I have a strong feeling it was somewhat heavier than the original
Yeah a little bit, the original is kinda heavy though, and a lot spookier.
Entombed's version is just brutal.
I've been working in the Kremlin with a two-headed dog,
Petter
---------------------------------
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 20:57:18 +0200
From: iggystooge.livevid@mailbox.swipnet.se
Subject: re:1st Hultsfred report
> First of all: I think it is correct that PLP has played old Imperiet and
> Thastrom songs earlier on their tour, that is what I have heard too. I just
> don't get it, why? In interviews some years ago Thastrom claimed that he
> detested everything he had done earlier and that he would never look back,
> just forward. Now suddenly, at the age of 40, he is turning around and
> looking back. It is not that I dislike these songs but I am just wondering
> if it is not just a desperate attempt to win back his "old fans" from the
> 80s and late 70s.
he might just have got his 40 years crise? ;o) some pressure perhaps from
his fans? most people (except me) seems to want to hear the swedish stuff
more than PLP. i dont think the swedish songs he made at hultefred was that
good. have been more fun if he have made them more PLPish... i dont know
about the rest of you but when i listen to imperiet these days, do i not
understand why i liked them then... btw, it have been kind of reunion time
for old stuff for some years, so when he need some more money he will do
like kiss, sex pistols etc and re-unite ebba grön again ;o)
> So, "Night of the vampire" was the Roky Erickson cover Entombed had
> recorded. I am not an Erickson specialist so I wasn't sure. It did sound
> great and I have a strong feeling it was somewhat heavier than the original
> :-).
im hardly dont know anythong about roky... entombed released it first as an
7" (or was it 12"?) and i think its on their latest compilation album too.
>/Micke, who also thougt it was quite fun when Nick Cave forgot the text to
>"Into my arms" and said it was because he was disturbed by the bass
>players' swaying hips :-)
it was very funny :o)
j.nilsson that will kill all expressen reporters on hultsfred that claimed
that everything i liked a lot actually sucked ;o)
-------------------------------
Date: 19 Jun 1997 16:37:38 +0200
From: Staffan Malmgren
Subject: Re: non scan (Bob Tilton)
Per L}ngstr|m writes:
> On Mon, 16 Jun 1997 beluga@wineasy.se wrote:
> > Bob Tilton is playing in Sweden this week, but I don't know where,
> > anyone Help???
> this is one concert i have to see! so, please, help me and trevor out if
> you can.
Sorry for the late response, but anyway they are playing at Kafe 44, Stockholm
tonight (970619 that is). Hope you can make it, I'm going to be there anyway.
/staffan
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