Digest

Vol.97 #10

December 1st, 1997

Today's Topics:
	 Re: BH now!
	 drugs etc
	 Re: 120 minutes & M2
	 Re: Drugs again
	 Re: drugs.
	 Re: 120 minutes & M2
	 who's fleeing reality?
	 Re: drugs etc
	 Epic Soundtracks
	 Nordman (not longer) / Nazi Bands
	 drugs.
	 Swell Maps, Pere Ubu
	 Re: BH now!
	 Re: Swell Maps, Pere Ubu
	 SPORTSMAN-fans!!!!
	 NON SCAN but important
	 68 Comeback/Msr Jeff Evans
	 Sin's Music on the TV [28-Nov-97]
	 The International Pop Underground Stockholm
	 Re: who's fleeing reality?
	 Popstad 97 review
	 Re: Nordman (not longer) / Nazi Bands
	 Re: (More) Bob Hund translated
	 Gothenburg
	 was it really...
	 RockBitch!
	 Nazi Cigarettes
	 NON-SCAN Re: Nazi Cigarettes
	 broaden your frames with SLOBOLL 

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Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 18:28:26 +0100
From: j.sundstrom@ekuc.se (Jan Sundstrom)
Subject: Re: BH now!

>> They're playing the new BH song on P3 now!
>
> Well since I doubt I'm going to have much luck picking up P3 over here
> : ) could you describe the sound of the new song.

Yeah, it was "Ett fall och en losning". The supposed cover by whoever
it was. Very good, the lyrics were in a "socially concious" tone, a bit
angry in a punkish way. Music, very good, judging from a first listen.
More structured (verse-chorus-vers) than other BH tunes, and quite catchy,
but sort of tense.

One of the better songs from them -  more "aware" and less "crazy" than
previous material.

Jan

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Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 18:34:23 +0100
From: Jonas Nilsson 
Subject: drugs etc

Trevor wrote:

>> just heard:
>> did you know that jeffrey evans from 68 comeback OD'd 
>> and died a week ago? Sad bussiness.

And what about Epic Soundtracks (Swell Maps, Jacobites etc)? He died in
his apartment in London this saturday. Some people say it was some kinda
overdose, other say it was plain suicide and others say he simply just
passed away.

Jonas Nilsson

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Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 19:50:05 +0100 (MET)
From: Micke Rehnstrom 
Subject: Re: 120 minutes & M2

> hey.........i dont' watch MTV here so i do not know what kind of guy he is
> ok. i don't know what he likes or dislikes or if he is "indie". i just
> don't like the guy.  i do not give a #$%$^ abou MTV Europe or American and
> much less about your %$^&* hero toby.

Umm, Is this English? I think we would all prefer another kind of language,
and tone, than this one. Am I wrong?

/Micke, suddenly struck by the thought: if I say "I hate all kinds of
prejudice" does that mean that I have prejudicial thoughts about prejudice?
Ahh, hmm. (perhaps I sounded prejudicial in my views about racists. Of
course I cannot say that I totally dislike all of them, I have not met all
of them. But I do dislike the ideology and the face it shows. Enough about
that now.)

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Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 21:18:20 +0200 (EET)
From: Timo Riitamaa 
Subject: Re: Drugs again

I said:

>> Not so much as to try and give a solution to america's problems, but rather
>> just the drug problem. why not make them legal? if drugs were as cheap and
>> legal as bread there would be virtually no drug-related organized crime, or
>> crime related to poor people trying to find the money to buy their drugs.
>
>> Somebody explain to me why i'm wrong. 

Then Martin replied:

> Oh please!!!
> You're wrong because you are forgetting all the millions of people that
> would get stuck in drug addiction if you and all other drug liberals got
> your ideas realized!
>
> The problems in USA is not caused by the illegalization of drugs,
> they have their problems with violence, egoism, drugs, environmental
> destruction etc. etc. because of the ultra-liberal, capitalistic system the
> country has been suffering from for centuries.

I want you to know i don't romanticise drugs. i've lived for two weeks in
the same room with a guy who's brains had been floating in chemicals for
years, smiling like he'd just won the lottery, the next second smashing
chairs and mirrors. i've seen what it does to people when they shove shit up
their veins, ending up on permanent slow motion. and i have noticed peoples
jokes tend to get worse when they smoke pot or drink alcohol 365 days in a year.

But what i was saying was that a very large part of the american crime
problem is caused by drugs being illegal. the rest of the shit, the total
fucking disregard towards other people, that's something that will only be
solved by a massive enviromental catastrophy (we're heading there...) and/or
the decline of the male sperm count. we're heading there too.  

It has been proven that the biosphere is suffering because of what we are
doing. now may i remind you that we are also part of that biosphere. 

Tornado DaSilva. 

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Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 21:18:22 +0200 (EET)
From: Timo Riitamaa 
Subject: Re: drugs.

Chris wrote:

>Well, I go back and forth on this one; sometimes I think legalisation is
>"the answer" and sometimes not. When I'm thinking not, here's the hole in
>your theory that presents itself: if you are going to make drugs legal for
>the purpose of bringing down the price, you better be prepared to make 'em
>legal for persons of ALL ages. That means cheap and legal crack and heroin
>for 10 years old (or ANY year-olds). You prepared to give that a green
>light? I dunno, I have a problem with doing that. You have to have no age
>restriction, or there will still be a nice big niche in the black market
>for it.

Yeah, i don't have an answer to this problem. maybe people should just start
taking some responisbility for their and their children's lives. 

Tornado DaSilva.

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Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 11:38:05 -0800
From: Vladimir Melnikov 
Subject: Re: 120 minutes & M2

At 07:50 PM 11/26/97 +0100, you wrote:
>> hey.........i dont' watch MTV here so i do not know what kind of guy he is
>> ok. i don't know what he likes or dislikes or if he is "indie". i just
>> don't like the guy.  i do not give a #$%$^ abou MTV Europe or American and
>> much less about your %$^&* hero toby.
>
> Umm, Is this English? I think we would all prefer another kind of language,
> and tone, than this one. Am I wrong?

exactly. you are right. use another kind of language and tone!!

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Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 23:50:21 +0200 (EET)
From: Timo Riitamaa 
Subject: who's fleeing reality?

> What about the problem of millions of human beings fleeing reality to live
> in their small, cloistered world drugs. Why care about the future? Why
> achieve anything? Why live? People who can't/won't deal with reality as it
> is, should be a major concern for everyone interested in our common
> humanity. And is that what great music is about - dealing with pain?

Hey, you're talking about those cool x-gen. kids. what do you call 'em?...
yeah! slackers! yup, that there really is a bad problem!

You know, i once taught a band how to be good slackers, and they scored
right away! it went something like this: "keep on looking at your toes! just
keep that spine bent!... your speech isn't unclear enough! great, now spend
days looking at Wheel Of Fortune, after all, you know the irony of it, so
it's ok! and your guitars aren't out of tune!" 

It was hard at first, but pretty soon they learned it all. 

Tornado DaSilva.

ps. really, i love you all. 

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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 10:10:50 +0100
From: Marten.Sahlen@xt.etx.ericsson.se (Marten Sahlen)
Subject: Re: drugs etc

Jonas Nilsson  wrote:

> And what about Epic Soundtracks (Swell Maps, Jacobites etc)? He died in
> his apartment in London this saturday. Some people say it was some kinda
> overdose, other say it was plain suicide and others say he simply just
> passed away.

Damn... I had missed this... that is indeed sad news. Where did you see
all this speculation about his untimely demise? Besides his work with
the groundbreaking band Swell Maps, he was as well drumming with the
marvellous Australians Crime & the City Solution for some time.

And speaking of the Bob Hund -- Pere Ubu connection... since Ubu were
clearly influenced by the German prog/kraut movement, it's not very
strange if the B.H. guys have chosen to cover 'Final Solution' (now I 
haven't heard the new Bob Hund song yet myself). Pere Ubu were one of
the true innovators of our time... I've been listening to them for 
nearly 15 years (and seen them live three times) and they never cease to 
amaze me. No Pere Ubu... no Joy Division or PIL... Geffen released a 
5 CD box set a while ago that basically covers their entire career.
It's well worth checking out.

-- Marten

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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 10:30:00 -0000
From: "Abbott, Daniel, ABBOTTD7" 
Subject: Epic Soundtracks

Sadly, yes it's true.
A friend of mine called round to Epic's flat on saturday, after a few
days of unsuccessfully trying to reach him by telephone, and the police
and his parents were there, they'd just found him there. Very sad. I
didn't know him too well, we just had mutual friends, but a lot of
people I know will really miss him.
So it goes.
As far as I know, no-one actually knows WHY he died yet.

 - Daniel

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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 05:30:25 -0500
From: Mo Holkar / UKG 
Subject: Nordman (not longer) / Nazi Bands

Reiner wrote:

> And, imo, it would be even wrong to listen to a band that makes good
> music and even good (not even "right-wing") lyrics, if I knew that the
> money they earn will profit any Nazi-Organisation or so ... right ?
> That's the reason for boycotting much company, who, themselves are not
> fascistic at first sight ...

This is difficult, though, because it's not always easy to find out what a
company does with its money. Did you know, for example, that Philip Morris,
one of the world's biggest tobacco sellers, funds the Ku Klux Klan heavily
-- so every packet of Marlboro you buy is funding organized racism in the
USA.

Mo

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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 05:30:27 -0500
From: Mo Holkar / UKG 
Subject: drugs.

> Not so much as to try and give a solution to america's problems, but rather
> just the drug problem. why not make them legal? if drugs were as cheap and
> legal as bread there would be virtually no drug-related organized crime, or
> crime related to poor people trying to find the money to buy their drugs.
> Somebody explain to me why i'm wrong. 

This viewpoint is getting pretty popular in the UK these days -- a number
of very senior police officers have said that they think the sale of
various drugs ought to be legalized, to eliminate the associated crime
problem.

I guess that within a few years cannabis and other 'soft' drugs will be
legal here: probably not heroin or cocaine though, although heroin has the
biggest associated crime problems here because of its highly addictive
nature and wide availability.

Then Chris wrote:
>>
Well, I go back and forth on this one; sometimes I think legalisation is
"the answer" and sometimes not. When I'm thinking not, here's the hole in
your theory that presents itself: if you are going to make drugs legal for
the purpose of bringing down the price, you better be prepared to make 'em
legal for persons of ALL ages. That means cheap and legal crack and heroin
for 10 years old (or ANY year-olds). You prepared to give that a green
light? I dunno, I have a problem with doing that. You have to have no age
restriction, or there will still be a nice big niche in the black market
for it. This is the one point that the anti-drug legalisation side brings
up that I have a problem finding an answer to. 
<<

I don't think this is true. Currently alcohol and tobacco are legal only
above certain ages (18 and 16 respectively in the UK), and you could just
put dope etc on the same footing. Of course, the alcohol and tobacco
restrictions don't work terribly well, in that under-age kids do drink and
smoke -- but not through any black market, just through pretending to be
older than they are, with the cooperation of greedy licensed vendors.

I'm not saying it would all work perfectly, just that I don't think your
objection is a realistic one, Chris -- although there are all sorts of
other objections too.

Myself, like you, I go back and forth.

Mo

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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 11:42:32 +0100
From: Mats L 
Subject: Swell Maps, Pere Ubu

Marten Sahlen wrote:

> Damn... I had missed this... that is indeed sad news. Where did you see
> all this speculation about his untimely demise? Besides his work with
> the groundbreaking band Swell Maps, he was as well drumming with the
> marvellous Australians Crime & the City Solution for some time.

Damn..I had missed this too. The Swell Maps is also a sadly forgotten
band nowdays. I really want to know where to find information about
this. 

> And speaking of the Bob Hund -- Pere Ubu connection... since Ubu were
> clearly influenced by the German prog/kraut movement, it's not very
> strange if the B.H. guys have chosen to cover 'Final Solution' (now I
> haven't heard the new Bob Hund song yet myself). Pere Ubu were one of
> the true innovators of our time... I've been listening to them for
> nearly 15 years (and seen them live three times) and they never cease to
> amaze me. No Pere Ubu... no Joy Division or PIL... Geffen released a
> 5 CD box set a while ago that basically covers their entire career.
> It's well worth checking out.

Everyone should have their Pere Ubu box set!  
There is also a 5 cd box set with the singer David Thomas solo work out.
It is not as good as the the things he did with Pere Ubu but it's
definitly worth buying if youre into the Ubu guys.

/Mats

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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 12:18:17 +0100 (MET)
From: Petter Tiilikainen 
Subject: Re: BH now!

According to Mats L:

> It sounds "exactly" as the original "Final Solution", Pere Ubu's second
> single. With swedish vocals instead.
> Maybee I sound a bit bored about it. But I'm not...
> 
> It's great!!!

Saw the video on musikmagasinet pop on ZTV yesterday, it was pretty darn
good if you ask me. I think funny that Thomas sings "ett fall och en losning"
so that it sounds a lot like it's more of a phonetical translation of the
original rather than strictly word by word. 

> I hope some more people of the world gets up their eyes for Pere Ubu
> this way. 

Hell yeah.

Petter

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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 12:21:15 +0100
From: Marten.Sahlen@xt.etx.ericsson.se (Marten Sahlen)
Subject: Re: Swell Maps, Pere Ubu

Mats L  wrote:
>
> Damn..I had missed this too. The Swell Maps is also a sadly forgotten
> band nowdays. I really want to know where to find information about
> this. 

I did some poking around the net now, and found the unofficial
Swell Maps/Epic Soundtracks' home page at 
http://members.tripod.com/~swellmap/index.html

If you click the news button, there are a couple of articles about
his death.

I will go home tonight and put on 'A Trip To Marineville' for sure.

-- Marten

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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 03:22:09 PST
From: "Calle Medin" 
Subject: SPORTSMAN-fans!!!!

Hello!

To all of you that missed the SPORTSMAN concert at Karen KTH Stockholm
here is another chans to se the band.

On tuesday 9/12 SPORTSMAN will be playing at krogen Tre Backar on 
Tegnergatan in stockholm

SPORTSMAN who is known from Musikjournalen POP P3 will be playing songs 
from their latest album and the word is that some new stuff will be 
heard as well.

After the concert the new cd will be sold and the band the band will 
probably mingle with the audiens and sign records.

Don't miss this oportunity which is only 20 sek.

Let SPORTSMAN be a PIECE of YOU!!!

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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 12:33:06 +0100
From: beluga@wineasy.se
Subject: NON SCAN but important

beluga@wineasy.se wrote:

> just heard:
> did you know that jeffrey evans from 68 comeback OD'd
> and died a week ago? Sad bussiness.
> 
> Trevor

jeffrey evans is not dead,
it was some sick person that passed the info on to me.

Trevor

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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 13:01:19 +0100
From: Petter Tiilikainen 
Subject: 68 Comeback/Msr Jeff Evans

See http://www.cpedu.rug.nl/~evert/news.htm, according to them
the overdose of Jeff Evans was only a false rumour. Fuck off to
the heartless asshole who started it.
However, I had a "gut feeling" about it not being right.

Petter

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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 18:48:05 +0100 (MET)
From: Erik Soderstrom 
Subject: Sin's Music on the TV [28-Nov-97]

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 Scandinavian Indie         MUSIC ON THE TV           Scandinavian Indie
                     November 28 -> December 4, 1997
                by Erik Soderstrom (chief@lysator.liu.se)

 Day Date   Artist/What            TV Program          Channel     Time
 --- -----  ---------------------- ------------------- ----------- -----
 Fri 28/11  -
 Sat 29/11  MTV Live Weekend       MTV Live Weekend    MTV Europe  14.00
            Texas                  Live 'N' Direct     MTV Europe  23.00 R
            Freddie Wadling        Let's Go            SVT 2       23.20
 Sun 30/11  Europe Music Awards 97 MTV EMA 97          TV 4        14.05 R
 Mon  1/12  Video List Results     Voxtopp             SVT 1       19.45
            Musikmagasinet Rock    Musikmagasinet Rock ZTV         20.30
 Tue  2/12  Musikmagasinet Rock    Musikmagasinet Rock ZTV         23.00 R
            Alternative Nation     Alternative Nation  MTV Europe  00.00
 Wed  3/12  Freddie Wadling        Let's Go            SVT 1       16.15 R
            Video Top List         Voxpop              SVT 1       19.00
            bob hund               Musikmagasinet Pop  ZTV         20.30
 Thu  4/12  Finnish Top List       Lista               FTV         17.45
            Popsicle, Synth Fest.  Musikbyr}n          SVT 1       19.15
            The Fugees             Live 'n' Loud       MTV Europe  20.00
            bob hund               Musikmagasinet Pop  ZTV         23.00 R

 R = Rerun
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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 22:35:34 -0000
From: mikael matsson 
Subject: The International Pop Underground Stockholm

The International Pop Underground Stockholm

And thus we open the sky to let our emotions pour all over the place in
celebration of everything that is POP! The International Pop Underground
Stockholm hosts yet another monthly bash of CRASHPOP this saturday
(november 29th) at Tantogarden in Stockholm. Having just caught our
collective breaths since Calvin Johnson passed through town last week
(to perform with the Dub Narcotic Soundsystem and to draw kittens for us)
we're set on stun this weekend alongside Oxfords fine Sportique and the
Stockholm wizkids Charlots.

Sportique are on their first ever venture outside the british isles,
exclusive to the pop underground. Greg of the Razorcuts, Rob from
Heavenly and Sir Mark (used to play with television Personalities)
poised to thrill with their garagy-pop-kicks (vintage early razorcuts
style, 12-string rickenbacker galore).

Our friends in the Charlots have just finnished unpacking their stash
of brand new albums out on a japanese label. Jazzing along in the fine
tradition spearheaded by the Cardigans and Super they're meant for the
sky.

As usual we'll be spinning our faves, dancing in the shadows and
sparkling along with the ACTION. See you all there....

The International Pop Underground
featuring *Sportique* and *Charlots*
Saturday November 29th (8PM til late...)
Tantogarden, Stockholm
T-Zinkensdam

Club International Pop Underground Stockholm

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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 23:15:57 +0100
From: baars@bahnhof.se (Girilal Baars)
Subject: Re: who's fleeing reality?

> You know, i once taught a band how to be good slackers, and they scored
> right away! it went something like this: "keep on looking at your toes! just
> keep that spine bent!... your speech isn't unclear enough! great, now spend
> days looking at Wheel Of Fortune, after all, you know the irony of it, so
> it's ok! and your guitars aren't out of tune!"
>
> It was hard at first, but pretty soon they learned it all.
>
> Tornado DaSilva.
>
> ps. really, i love you all.

Come again? Was that irony?! ;-)

Girilal
(Everyone loves. But not everyone loves everyone.)

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Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 19:57:04 +0100 (MET)
From: Micke Rehnstrom 
Subject: Popstad 97 review

A long review but on the other hand you get "three in one". The "Popstad
97" tour featuring three bands from Umea hit Linkoping last night. And it
became quite a pleasant night.

COBOLT have been compared to RED HOUSE PAINTERS so much that my
expectations about them were enourmously high. Perhaps that was the
problem. Or perhaps it was the fact that this kind of songs need a vocalist
who really sounds as if he means what he is singing. Some more desperation
in his voice would have been nice, IMO. There is no doubt that these are
good musicians (formerly in bands such as REFUSED and BLITHE) but, except
for the first tune, they did not manage to "grab" me as much as I had hoped.

CARPET PEOPLE are, IMO, the best Swedish providers of a "soundtrack for
dark nights" at the moment. They are usually a quartet but, since Emil
Odling is quite busy with his other band WARD J LITTLE, he is not
participating on this tour. But the only time I missed that extra guitar
was in "Sundays ache". This music is not meant to sound much - it is slow
and fragile-sounding and with similarities to bands such as PALACE MUSIC
and RADAR BROS and with Anders Hellman singing (with a voice close to J
Mascis) bitter and/or sad texts about everyday life (but mostly the texts
are written in a way that forces the listener to think and to make his/her
own interpretations so someone else may consider them to be about something
completely different.). This is music that aims directly at your brain,
without necessarily making any deep scars in your ears on its way there.
IMO, it worked very well live, perhaps even better than on record. But the
audience seemed quite uninterested (but it should be mentioned that Anders
Hellman did not agree on that. He told me, after the concert, that he was
very pleased - both with the gig and with the audience). To please those
who wanted to "rock" the band ended the gig with the only real "rock" song
they have written: "Kelly God".

And finally, those who wanted to "rock" more got theirs. By a band without
guitars!!  K-PIST are very exciting on record and turned out to be
extraordinary live, with their mix of rock, synth pop, rap, funk, oriental
etc. (I will not label their music, because there is no label. But if they
had used guitars instead of synthesizers it would have been called rap
metal, I guess). I became worried during the first song, "Videogamer",
which sounded a lot lamer than on the "Voltage controlled" album. But after
that, from "Outer space" (which could make a dead man dance) until the last
encore - a quite psychedelic and ear-damaging version of "Gypsyland" -
K-PIST controlled the audience totally. Their sound was heavy, aggressive,
fast, loud, groovy and - enough "rock" for one whole evening.

To sum up: two great concerts. And Anders Hellman also hinted that COBOLT
really can sound better than they were last night, so they might be worth
checking out too. I also award bonus points for playing SIXTEEN HORSEPOWER
in the loudspeakers before the concerts began.

/Micke

"I see you wear your future today
What will you wear tomorrow?"
(CARPET PEOPLE)

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Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 00:17:34 -0500 (EST)
From: Chris Forsberg 
Subject: Re: Nordman (not longer) / Nazi Bands

On Thu, 27 Nov 1997, Mo Holkar / UKG wrote:

> This is difficult, though, because it's not always easy to find out what a
> company does with its money. Did you know, for example, that Philip Morris,
> one of the world's biggest tobacco sellers, funds the Ku Klux Klan heavily

I find that really hard to believe. I live in the states, and have never
heard that! I mean, I've heard that Domino's pizza donates to Operation
Resuce (militant anti-abortion loonies), and Coor's helped fund the
Contras....I would think I would have heard that one of the biggest
companies in the world -- one that is already under fire for other reasons
-- funds the Klan. This would be BIG news - anything racial in the
country always is. I can't see how, when this story broke, anyone
could have missed it. Could you tell me the source you heard this from?

Chris

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Date: 30 Nov 1997 12:05:57 +0100
From: Robert Cumming 
Subject: Re: (More) Bob Hund translated

In article ,
Martin  Olson  wrote:

> If you do a web-search for "Bob Hund lyrics" on any search engine, you'll
> probably come up with this one page I ran across a while ago that has
> translations from all the bob hund albums into english.  I think I have
> issues with maybe the way one or two things here and there are translated
> and YES you really do lose a hell of a lot in the translation, but it's
> certainly worth a look...

The older I get the more I realise just how much they lose in
translation...  I'm planning to go over them all again quite soon, at
the moment they leave quite a bit to be desired.  After I get hold of
the new EP, that is (methinks I'll translate the cover(s) as well...).

And I'd be completely overjoyed if someone came with masses of
complaints and opinions!  After all, some of those translations date
back to '94 when my Swedish was still pretty useless.

Robert, http://www.astro.su.se/~robert/Musik/bob_hund.html

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Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 12:38:04 +0200
From: ig@mindless.com
Subject: Gothenburg

I will go to gothenburg tomorrow and see Morrissey.

Is there anyone on this list that live on gothenburg and can recomend any
kind of record shops, cheap places or places with rare stuff? and any
places with cheap videos, vcr's or apple computers?

j.nilsson

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Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 17:27:36 +0100 (MET)
From: magnus@lousy.pp.se (Magnus Johansson)
Subject: was it really...

Today before I went to work (yeah, I know it's sunday...) I caught
a glimpse of some guy imitating Ray Davies on the re-run of Sikta
Mot Stjarnorna ("Aim For the Stars" (?), Swedish TV-show with
people trying to sing and look like somebody famous) and he looked
a _lot_ like the singer from Stonecake. Did anyone see it? Didn't
catch his name, was that really him?

Just curious,

Magnus

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Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 21:31:20 +0100
From: Cilja Kwon 
Subject: RockBitch!

Hey :)
Did anyone see RockBitch at Underground in Gothenburg?
Tell us about that gig.. huh

>> DANiEL

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Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 08:12:54 +0100
From: "Barczinski, Reiner, WAC" 
Subject: Nazi Cigarettes

Oh, I've heard this years before, and nothing's changed so far! I, as a
non-smoker, don't really know the brands of Philip Morris, has it got
Marlboro too? Because I only know this KKK - Marlboro-Connection ... but
I think, it's the same! But I don't know more international brands with
these connections ... just some - sad but true - german companys ....

Reiner

On Thu, 27 Nov 1997, Mo Holkar / UKG wrote:

>> This is difficult, though, because it's not always easy to find out what a
>> company does with its money. Did you know, for example, that Philip Morris,
>> one of the world's biggest tobacco sellers, funds the Ku Klux Klan heavily
>
> I find that really hard to believe. I live in the states, and have never
> heard that! I mean, I've heard that Domino's pizza donates to Operation
> Resuce (militant anti-abortion loonies), and Coor's helped fund the
> Contras....I would think I would have heard that one of the biggest
> companies in the world -- one that is already under fire for other
> reasons -- funds the Klan. This would be BIG news - anything racial in the
> country always is. I can't see how, when this story broke, anyone
> could have missed it. Could you tell me the source you heard this from?

Chris

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Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 11:09:25 +0100 (MET)
From: magnus@lousy.pp.se (Magnus Johansson)
Subject: NON-SCAN Re: Nazi Cigarettes

Hey!

Chris Forsberg wrote reg. mr Morris funding of the Klansters:

>I would think I would have heard that one of the biggest
>companies in the world -- one that is already under fire for other
>reasons -- funds the Klan

The keyword here is "fire". :)

First time I heard about the Marlboro/KKK-connection must've been
like in the early 80's or something.. and I remember that it was
a pretty lame rumour going around that the red area on the front
of packages of Marlboro, the one that looks like this:

************
************
*****  *****
***      ***
*          *

was supposed to be a "K" and, yup, if you look at a pack of Marlboro's
you'll discover that this area will appear - 3 times... K K K!

Pretty obvious, isn't it? I rest my case,

Magnus

PS - snow!

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Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 16:42:51 +0100
From: Jonas S 
Subject: broaden your frames with SLOBOLL 

folks, tonight (1/12) there is another RADIO SLOBOLL show. tune in at 95.3
MHz (stockholm only) at 10 o'clock to get an hour of tastefull music. On
the bill tonight there is an interview with THIRD EYE FOUNDATION (described
as My Bloody Valentine meet Drum'n'Bass). Plus much more goodies for you.

On December 15th the last SLOBOLL show of the year will take place. (It
might be our last show ever) We will put focus on swedish music but not the
thing you usually hear or discuss on this list. Check it out to broaden
your musical frames. We'll play swedish electronica, swedish post-rock
(whatever that means), swedish free-jazz, swedish psych and swedish pop &
rock. And we'll have our last contest too. With very swedish prices.

take care, CU.

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