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Today's Topics:
	 Re: Is 
	 spiritualized live tape friday 5th
	 Holding Our Breath 12"
	 vid boots
	 Unidentified subject!
	 Re: Guitar Players
	 Re: Guitar Players
	 Re: Unidentified subject!
	 Re: Unidentified subject!
	 Re: Unidentified subject!
	 Slowdive Fan Reaction To Mojave
	 Re: Unidentified subject!
	 SHOEGAZE TRADE (UPDATED 14.12.97)
	 Re: SHOEGAZE TRADE (UPDATED 14.12.97)
	 Re: SHOEGAZE TRADE (UPDATED 14.12.97)
	 Re: SHOEGAZE TRADE (UPDATED 14.12.97)
	 Re: SHOEGAZE TRADE (UPDATED 14.12.97)
	 Re: Unidentified subject!
	 Re: SHOEGAZE TRADE (UPDATED 14.12.97)
	 looking for someone

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Date: Mon, 08 Dec 1997 17:30:21 PST
From: "michaelnicki barrett" 
Subject: Re: Is 

>Hi,
>I remember awhile back someone by the name  of "moshe" on this list. If they
>are still here or if anyone knows his address could they please contact me.
>
>Thanks
>Gord

Hi Gord 
Sorry I haven't done your video yet but I will do it soon (Iv'e just 
moved house).As for moshe I have this for you. 

                   imell@worldnet.att.net
                            
                          and
                    
                     Moshe Imel
                   8019D Leslie Rd
                  Ft Meade,Maryland 20755

Hope this is what you wanted.  
Michael

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Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 08:12:49 +0000
From: Brian Burgher 
Subject: spiritualized live tape friday 5th

anybody interested in a 1hr 50 min. spiritualized live show at philly
should send me e-mail of interesting things they have to trade looking
for f.s.a live stuff but send me some mail stating other items 
                                        brian
p.s.the people who had claimed they would trade me for the windy and
carl dat i still have not recieved tapes yet i will not send them till 
i get the copies i was promised no ofense but i don't want to get reamed
ya know what i'm sayin.....this excludes roger and the guy from canada
and they know why

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Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 15:47:03 +1000
From: Phenomonen 
Subject: Holding Our Breath 12"
Message-id: <01IR4PRBZA788ZE6NU@vaxh.cc.monash.edu.au>
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT

I just picked up a brand new copy of "Holding Our Breath" on vinyl. 
As I already have a copy of htis, i am willing to trade for other 
Slowdive goods (not albums or audio bootlegs) or sell. Please e-mail 
me privately with your offer if you are interested.

Paul
pros2@student.monash.edu.au

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Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 01:00:10 -0600
From: Torr 
Subject: vid boots

Does anyone have any video boots of Slowdive?!  If so, e-mail me please!

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Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 23:46:59 -0500
From: eddiej7@juno.com (i'll be your future boy)
Subject: Unidentified subject!

Hi,

This'll probably be a dumb question, but hey, i haven't heard much
conversation about it in the few months i've been on Avalyn.

I'm curious as to the general reaction to Mojave3 and "Ask Me Tomorrow"
from those who were big Slowdive fans.

My initial contact was through the strings version of Mercy, which is
absolutely BRILLIANT.   I got the album, and honestly i love it.   In
fact, i'd rank it as one of my favorite albums, probably even better
than the Slowdive albums.  (which i'm fairly new to as well)

Anywho, I've found that people are surprisingly receptive to the album,
so i've been lending it out to people, and they've been getting it
themselves.  

I'm doing my best to hype Mojave3, i really hope they don't end up
splitting.

I'm feeling incoherent today
Evan

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Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 23:41:50 -0500
From: eddiej7@juno.com (i'll be your future boy)
Subject: Re: Guitar Players

Hi there,

This email is rather old, but anyway...

Are there any tabs for Mojave3 songs on the WEB?  Has anyone
worked them out?   I'm just learning to play guitar, and i'd love to
know how to play them.  none of them sound like they should be too
complicated, but maybe that's just me...  So *please* send me
any tabss of Mojave3 that you've got, or point me to a URL

I found a tab to Visions of La on the web... If anyone wants
it let me know.  

Speaking of songs from Pygmalion, is anyone willing to find Pygmalion
for me, either old or new?   I can't find it, and my deal to import it
fell through.   PLEASE, pretty PLEASE?      (darn SMK records had to go
bankrupt)



On Sat, 29 Nov 1997 13:07:43 -0500 jvanslem 
writes:
>Are there any Guitar players out there? I was looking through one of
>the old digests and I found a post about recreating Slowdive's guitar
>sounds. I woulld be really interested in talking to someone some more
>about this, so email if you know ANYTHING. Also, does anyone have some
>Guitar tab/chords for some Slowdive songs, Im just interested in the
>chord relationships they use, thanks. If anyone can be of any help,
>please email me soon.
>
>Justin
>
>

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Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 21:06:16 PST
From: "michaelnicki barrett" 
Subject: Re: Guitar Players

hi 
I have a copy of pygmalion on cd new if you want I'd rather trade for it,
What do you think???

thanks
michael

>Hi there,
>
>This email is rather old, but anyway...
>
>Are there any tabs for Mojave3 songs on the WEB?  Has anyone
>worked them out?   I'm just learning to play guitar, and i'd love to
>know how to play them.  none of them sound like they should be too
>complicated, but maybe that's just me...  So *please* send me
>any tabss of Mojave3 that you've got, or point me to a URL
>
>I found a tab to Visions of La on the web... If anyone wants
>it let me know.  
>
>Speaking of songs from Pygmalion, is anyone willing to find Pygmalion
>for me, either old or new?   I can't find it, and my deal to import it
>fell through.   PLEASE, pretty PLEASE?      (darn SMK records had to go
>bankrupt)
>
>
>
>On Sat, 29 Nov 1997 13:07:43 -0500 jvanslem 
>writes:
>>Are there any Guitar players out there? I was looking through one of
>>the old digests and I found a post about recreating Slowdive's guitar
>>sounds. I woulld be really interested in talking to someone some more
>>about this, so email if you know ANYTHING. Also, does anyone have some
>>Guitar tab/chords for some Slowdive songs, Im just interested in the
>>chord relationships they use, thanks. If anyone can be of any help,
>>please email me soon.
>>
>>Justin

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Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 22:06:44 -0700 (MST)
From: michael maes 
Subject: Re: Unidentified subject!

my only comment would be this: Mojave 3 is very good, but their creative
endeavors, up to this point, will never have the impact or the consequence
on the music world as Slowdive did/does. Slowdive was music as art. They
took their genre of music to another level. One that no band has been able
to achieve. The "holding our breath" ep typifies what I am talking about.

At 11:46 PM 12/13/97 -0500, you wrote:
>Hi,
>
>This'll probably be a dumb question, but hey, i haven't heard much
>conversation about it in the few months i've been on Avalyn.
>
>I'm curious as to the general reaction to Mojave3 and "Ask Me Tomorrow"
>from those who were big Slowdive fans.
>
>My initial contact was through the strings version of Mercy, which is
>absolutely BRILLIANT.   I got the album, and honestly i love it.   In
>fact, i'd rank it as one of my favorite albums, probably even better
>than the Slowdive albums. (which i'm fairly new to as well)
>
>Anywho, I've found that people are surprisingly receptive to the album,
>so i've been lending it out to people, and they've been getting it
>themselves.  
>
>I'm doing my best to hype Mojave3, i really hope they don't end up
>splitting.
>
>I'm feeling incoherent today
>Evan

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Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 23:31:23 -0600
From: Brad Nicholson 
Subject: Re: Unidentified subject!

At 11:46 PM 12/13/97 -0500, you wrote:
>I'm curious as to the general reaction to Mojave3 and "Ask Me Tomorrow"
>from those who were big Slowdive fans.

Hi,

I like "Ask Me Tommorrow" nearly as much as the Slowdive albums, but not
quite as much.  I completely agree with Neil Halstead when he says that it
is a natural progression from Pygmalion to "AMT".  In fact, I think the
progression to "AMT" is more natural than the progression from "Souvlaki"
to Pygmalion was.  

It was generally recieved quite well by Slowdive fans, but a lot of big
shoegazer fans were a bit dissapointed by the shift from Slowdive to Mojave
3, but Pygmalion wasn't a shoegazer album anyway.  No offense if you fall
into that catagory, but I wonder how many of you would have loved "AMT" if
it had been Slowdive album number four, instead of Mojave 3 album number
one.  I know a few people who are **HUGE** Spacemen 3 fans, and they don't
like Spiritualized.  Why?  Even though Spiritualized are a very natural
continuation of the Spacemen, and actually an improvement on the ideas
explored, they are not the Spacemen.  I think this may be the case with a
lot Slowdive fans.  Of course, they also might have just not liked the album.

I've rambled enough, I should study more.

brad 
http://www.cs.usask.ca/undergrads/bdn116

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Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 23:39:36 -0600
From: Brad Nicholson 
Subject: Re: Unidentified subject!

Now I love Slowdive a lot, but I don't know if I would go so far as to say
they've had a very big impact on the music world.  Sure, they've influenced
a few bands, and they have a decent size following of devoted fans, but you
have to remember that they really were not doing anything horribly
original.  Sure, they put there own spin on things, but if you want to lay
the blame for for the influence they've had, lay it  where it belongs, at
the feet of My Bloody Valentine.  Actually, most bands I would relate a
Slowdive influence with (Windy and Carl, Bowery Electric, ect.) have
vehemently denied being influenced by them.

But I can see your point, and I still think that a few years down the road,
the whole shoegazer thing is going to erupt again, and bands like Slowdive
will finally get their due respect.

brad

At 10:06 PM 12/13/97 -0700, you wrote:
>my only comment would be this: Mojave 3 is very good, but their creative
>endeavors, up to this point, will never have the impact or the consequence
>on the music world as Slowdive did/does. Slowdive was music as art. They
>took their genre of music to another level. One that no band has been able
>to achieve. The "holding our breath" ep typifies what I am talking about.

http://www.cs.usask.ca/undergrads/bdn116

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Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 23:47:10 -0800
From: "Milan B." 
Subject: Slowdive Fan Reaction To Mojave

I loved Slowdive when they were around and saw them a couple times.  I also
saw Mojave when they came around.  I louve both of the bands and find them
very similar.  I thinque the only difference is that Mojave is a lot more
accessible to the lazy listener.

Milan

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Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 04:20:27 EST
From: Primarygrl 
Subject: Re: Unidentified subject!
Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit

Evan,

In my opinion, Slowdive shines FAR above Mojave 3.  The Slouvaki album was the
best!  But, i am a fan of the more treated music, with effects and layers
galore.  Mojave 3 is good, but nothing comparable to Slowdive's
accomplishments.  It seems to me to be the stripped down version of Slowdive. 

PG-13

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Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 11:50:37 EST
From: ALTONBARNS 
Subject: SHOEGAZE TRADE (UPDATED 14.12.97)
Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit

Hi

I HAVE THE FOLLOWING ITEMS TO TRADE  (UPDATED 14/12/97)
Blueboy - River (Sarah CD - No cover)
Chapterhouse - Blood Music  (CD Album)
Cocteau Twins - Bluebeard   (CD Single)
Cocteau Twins - Snow   (CD Single)
Cure, The - High (CD Single)
Curve - Blindfold (CD Single)
Curve - Blindfold (12" medium condition)
Curve - Cherry e.p.   (CD Single)
Curve - Horror Head   (CD Single)
Curve - Frozen (CD Single)
Curve - Frozen (12" Excellent condition)
Harvest Minsters, The - Little Dark Mansion (Sarah CD Album)
Harvest Minsters, The - A Feeling Mission (CD Album)
Jesus & Mary Chain - Sound of Speed e.p. (CD Single)
Jesus & Mary Chain - Reverence (CD Single)
Kitchens Of Distinction - Love Is Hell (CD Album)
Low - I could Live In Hope (CD Album)
Revolver - 45  (CD Single)
Ride - Dreams Burn Down e.p.(CD Single)
Senseless Things - Primary Instinct (CD Single)
Senseless Things - Christine Keeler (CD Single)
Senseless Things - hold It Down (CD Single) 
Smiths, The - What Difference Does It Make   (CD Single)
Silvania - Delay Tambor  (CD album)
Slowdive - Morningrise   (CD Single)
Slowdive - Holding Our Breath   (12")
Sweetest Ache, The - Jaguar (Sarah CD Album)
Swervedriver - Last Train to Satansville (CD Single Promo)
Swervedriver - Last Day On Earth (CD Single)
Swervedriver - Magic Bus  (CD Single)
Various - Dedicated sampler featuring Chapterhouse, Spititualized, Cranes,
spacemen3, This Picture(CD Album)
Wedding Present - Evening Session 1986-1994   (CD Album)
Wedding Present - It`s a Gas   (CD Single)

HERES WHAT IM AFTER!

Blind Mr. Jones - Disneyworld (CD Single   Cherry 131)
Blueboy - Dirty Mags   (CD single  Sarah99CD)
Brighter - Disney e.p.   (CD Single  Sarah69CD)
Curve - Superblaster (CD Single)
Curve - Radio Sessions (CD Album)
Dreamscape - Cradle e.p. (CD Single  Ladida23CD)
Field Mice, The - Coastal   (CD Album   Sarah606CD) 
KLF - What Time is Love Story (CD ALbum JAMSCD4)
KLF - Kylie Said to Jason (CD Single  KLF10CD)
KLF (JAMMS) - Shag Times (CD Album  JAMSCD3D)
Loveliescrushing - Xuvetyn (CD Album PRO 64)
Love Spirals Downwards - Ever (PRO 71)
Love Spirals downwards - Ardor  (CD Album PRO 51)
Northern Picture Library - Blue Dissolve   (CD Single  Task25)
Ocean Blue, The - CD singles pre 1995
Saint Etienne - I Love To Paint (CD Album)
Secret Shine - Loveblind   (CD Single  Sarah71CD)
Slowdive - Holding Our Breath (CD Single)
St. Christopher - Bacharach   (CD Album  Sarah403CD)
Various - Gaol Ferry Bridge   (CD Album Sarah Compilation530CD)
Various - Battery Point   (CD Album Sarah Compilation)

IF YOU WISH TO TRADE E-MAIL ME (NO SALES SORRY!!!)
CHEERS ANTONY

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Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 12:31:31 -0800
From: Sabrina Frank 
Subject: Re: SHOEGAZE TRADE (UPDATED 14.12.97)

 i would have to think about trading this..but i have the holding our
breath single signed...actually wait i wont trade it , sorry..i would make
a tape of it for you though

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Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 11:36:28 -0600
From: Torr 
Subject: Re: SHOEGAZE TRADE (UPDATED 14.12.97)

At 12:31 PM 12/14/97 -0800, you wrote:
> i would have to think about trading this..but i have the holding our
>breath single signed...actually wait i wont trade it , sorry..i would make
>a tape of it for you though

What would be on this tape?  (IE tracklisting)

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Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 13:16:31 -0600
From: Brad Nicholson 
Subject: Re: SHOEGAZE TRADE (UPDATED 14.12.97)

At 11:36 AM 12/14/97 -0600, you wrote:
>At 12:31 PM 12/14/97 -0800, you wrote:
>> i would have to think about trading this..but i have the holding our
>>breath single signed...actually wait i wont trade it , sorry..i would make
>>a tape of it for you though
>What would be on this tape?  (IE tracklisting)

The Holding Our Breath EP  tracks are:

Catch the Breeze (slightly different version from Just For A Day)
Golden Hair (Syd Barret Cover)
Shine (mindblowing, among their best)
Albatross (quite ambient)

brad

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Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 13:31:55 -0600
From: cortney burns 
Subject: Re: SHOEGAZE TRADE (UPDATED 14.12.97)

If you're really offering to make tapes of it, I'd love one.
			Cortney

At 12:31 PM 12/14/97 -0800, you wrote:
> i would have to think about trading this..but i have the holding our
>breath single signed...actually wait i wont trade it , sorry..i would make
>a tape of it for you though

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Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 15:39:11 -0500
From: larry@interlog.com (a big thirsty teddy bear)
Subject: Re: Unidentified subject!

>I'm curious as to the general reaction to Mojave3 and "Ask Me Tomorrow"
>from those who were big Slowdive fans.

I thought the songs were okay, but I missed the fact that Slowdive had a
distinctive *sound*, whereas Mojave seems a lot simpler (which is also good,
but not as interesting to me).

My initial reaction on hearing the opening notes of  "Love Songs on the
Radio" was, "Wow, this really is different from what they used to do". But
then Rachel's heavily effected voice came in and I thought, "Well, they
haven't changed *that* much..."

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Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 18:00:54 PST
From: "michaelnicki barrett" 
Subject: Re: SHOEGAZE TRADE (UPDATED 14.12.97)

> i would have to think about trading this..but i have the holding our
>breath single signed...actually wait i wont trade it , sorry..i would 
>make a tape of it for you though

How much do you want for it then????

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Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 20:30:15 -0600
From: avalyn 
Subject: looking for someone

hello,

i am looking for someone whose former e-mail address was
chelsea_boy@hotmail.com. if you're here, please contact me.

avalyn@funcity.newaygo.mi.us

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