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	 Re: Unidentified subject!
	 Re: Unidentified subject!
	 [Fwd: Re: slowdive]
	 Re: [Fwd: Re: slowdive]
	 Pygmalion influences
	 Re: Pygmalion influences
	 Re: Pygmalion influences
	 Re: Pygmalion influences
	 Re: Pygmalion influences
	 Re: Pygmalion influences
	 Re[2]: Pygmalion influences
	 Re: Pygmalion influences
	 Re: Pygmalion influences
	 Re: Pygmalion influences
	 (non-slowdive) FS/A: pale saints 'children break' flexi

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Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 20:31:12 -0700 (MST)
From: michael maes 
Subject: Re: Unidentified subject!

Once again I will throw in my two cents......SHINE is the greatest song
Slowdive ever did. One listen, and you are taken away to that happy place
that Happy Gilmore talks about in his show. MAybe not his interpretation of
his happy place, but you all get the idea!!!!

SHINE is beautiful beyond description.

At 02:39 PM 12/15/97 -0500, you wrote:
>> Oh, Some Velvet Morning is one of my Slowdive favourites! It's just
>> so slow, smooth and dreamy - I fell in love with it the moment I
>> first heard it.
>> 
>I personally like the original *so* much more - granted they did a nice
>job adding that certain Slowdive charm like no others could...but still, I
>prefer the original, as well as preferring the blissed out glory that
>epitomized Slowdive for me (i.e. Shine....yummmmmmmm)
>
>Daniel

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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 09:12:11 +0000
From: "wade@tapehouse.com" 
Subject: Re: Unidentified subject!
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Has anyone ever heard Silver Screen?

That is the most catchy, and most beautiful Slowdive song!

wade@tapehouse.com

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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 16:14:43 +0000
From: Brian Burgher 
Subject: [Fwd: Re: slowdive]
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> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 21:24:43 -0700
> From: "Modified Alternative Music" 
> Subject: Re: slowdive

Hi Brian - 

Sorry for the delay in responding.  Our computer system crashed and we lost
a bunch of email and we just restored your request for Slowdive singles.

We have the following in stock right now:

Morningrise CD5 $11.95
Five EP (In Mind Remixes) CD5 $11.95
Pygmalion Import CD $27.95

SHIPMENT.  We ship via United Parcel Service and charge $3.75 for any size
order within the continental United States.  If you want an item shipped
outside the continental United States we will provide you with a price
quote for shipment. 

PAYMENT.  We accept MasterCard, Visa, American Express, Money Orders, and
Personal Checks (checks must clear our bank prior to shipment).  If using a
credit card we suggest you either call or fax our store with your number
(we don't recommend EMailing your number to us). 

Sorry again for the screw up, we usually try to answer our email on the
next business day.  Let us know if you have any questions.

Thanks!

Modified Alternative Music
247 East 900 South
Salt Lake City, Utah  84111
Telephone:  801-355-1770
Facsimile:  801-355-1773
Email:  modified@aros.net
Web Site:  www.modified-music.com

Store hours:  11:00 a.m. - 9:00 p.m. Mondays - Fridays; 11:00 a.m. - 8:00
p.m. Saturdays (Mountain Standard Time)

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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 17:26:45 -0500
From: brenden1@ix.netcom.com
Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: slowdive]

Dude, before you ship off your money do a search for slowdive at-

http://volcano.flashpoint.com/gemm/GEMM/cgi-bin/quickgemm.pl?wild=SELLER+BEACHBUM

You may be delightfully surprised at the results, I don't know. Last
time I did it it came back with a whole mess of stuff all over the
world.

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B    R    E    N    D    E    N

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Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 23:42:34 +1100 (EST)
From: Leo Keith 
Subject: Pygmalion influences

Pygmalion is my favourite slowdive album but that does not seem to be an
attitude that is generally shared on this list? For me Pymalion
represents an attitude toward songwriting that I had not previously
seen. It seemed in a way brave to do a song as sparse and repetitive as
Miranda or Trellisaze and yet for me these are among the most sublime
Slowdive songs. So while I appreciate Mojave 3 I can not help but to be
dissapointed that Slowdive did not stay together for at least one more
album. Mojave 3 are a very beautiful band but they are not exactly
minimalist and I cannot see them capturing the haunting atmoshphere of
Pygmalion which is something I feel was not developed nearly enough.
Having said that, does anyone know where we can look for more Pygmalion
like material? Pygmalion is really not dreampop... does anyone have any
ideas as to Pygalion influences or know of any other Pygmalion-esque
bands? The closest thing in my experience is the Cocteau's
"Victorialand"?

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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 23:33:43 -0800
From: Richard Henson 
Subject: Re: Pygmalion influences

	Another band that you might want to check out (if you haven't yet) is Talk
Talk.  Their last two albums, Spirit of Eden and Laughing Stock (and to a
certain degree, their third album, Colour of Spring) are influences on the
sound of Pygmalion.  Another band to check out is Bark Psychosis
(particulaly the album Hex).

richard henson

At 11:42 PM 12/18/97 +1100, Leo Keith wrote:
>Pygmalion is my favourite slowdive album but that does not seem to be an
>attitude that is generally shared on this list? For me Pymalion
>represents an attitude toward songwriting that I had not previously
>seen. It seemed in a way brave to do a song as sparse and repetitive as
>Miranda or Trellisaze and yet for me these are among the most sublime
>Slowdive songs. So while I appreciate Mojave 3 I can not help but to be
>dissapointed that Slowdive did not stay together for at least one more
>album. Mojave 3 are a very beautiful band but they are not exactly
>minimalist and I cannot see them capturing the haunting atmoshphere of
>Pygmalion which is something I feel was not developed nearly enough.
>Having said that, does anyone know where we can look for more Pygmalion
>like material? Pygmalion is really not dreampop... does anyone have any
>ideas as to Pygalion influences or know of any other Pygmalion-esque
>bands? The closest thing in my experience is the Cocteau's
>"Victorialand"?

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Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 08:03:44 -0600 (CST)
From: Jason Marc Morehead <00161068@bigred.unl.edu>
Subject: Re: Pygmalion influences

hi all...

i was listening to some stuff by bark psychosis, from the album "hex," 
and noticed a similar feel to "pygmalion."  not as "experimental" 
maybe, but still had that rainy day, minimal feel to it.  i only heard 
a few songs from a tape someone made for me.  anyone know where i 
could pick it up on CD?

jason

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Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 00:51:05 -0800
From: Richard Henson 
Subject: Re: Pygmalion influences

	I got mine a couple of years ago at a Best Buy so i guess that it couldn't
be too hard to find (but then again, i got my copy of Pygmalion at the same
store).  It's a domestic release and is really, really good.  You should
check it out.  It might take a couple of listens, but it's well worth it. 

richard henson

At 08:03 AM 12/18/97 -0600, Jason Marc Morehead wrote:
>hi all...
>
>i was listening to some stuff by bark psychosis, from the album "hex," 
>and noticed a similar feel to "pygmalion."  not as "experimental" 
>maybe, but still had that rainy day, minimal feel to it.  i only heard 
>a few songs from a tape someone made for me.  anyone know where i 
>could pick it up on CD?
>
>jason

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Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 11:37:24 -0500
From: brenden1@ix.netcom.com
Subject: Re: Pygmalion influences

I agree that Pygmalion is an incredible album, from both a pleasure
perspective and a perspective of artistic relevance. I don't know what
the influences were, some have recommended Flying Saucer Attack as
another Pygmalionesque band. While I have gotten into FSA and like them
very much, they really don't compare to Pygmalion. I like Mojave 3 very
much, but pygmalion is a masterpeice of creative artistry that will be
hard to rival. Hopefully, someday, someone will release an album of its
calibre. 

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B    R    E    N    D    E    N

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Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 12:16:29 +0000
From: KEVIN HUFNAGEL 
CC: avalyn@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: Pygmalion influences

brenden1@ix.netcom.com wrote:
> 
> I agree that Pygmalion is an incredible album, from both a pleasure
> perspective and a perspective of artistic relevance. I don't know what
> the influences were, some have recommended Flying Saucer Attack as
> another Pygmalionesque band. While I have gotten into FSA and like them
> very much, they really don't compare to Pygmalion. I like Mojave 3 very
> much, but pygmalion is a masterpeice of creative artistry that will be
> hard to rival. Hopefully, someday, someone will release an album of its
> calibre.

i agree, "blue skied an' clear" was the first song i had ever heard from 
slowdive [thanks to seeing _the doom generation_] and i was hooked the 
second i heard it. "pygmalion" is definitely an underrated masterpiece. 
i'm interested now in hearing FSA. any recomendations? kevin hufnagel

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Date: Thu, 18 Dec 97 11:43:48 CST
From: Crios@dminet.davidson-marketing.com
Subject: Re[2]: Pygmalion influences

Pygmalion is really good and I like it alot.. but I really don't put it in the
same category as Just for a day and Souvlaki... It's ambient.. (except for the
few conventional songs on it)...   I like it alot but It's just different from
their other stuff

                        chris

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Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 14:34:06 -0500 (EST)
From: butterfly mcqueen 
Subject: Re: Pygmalion influences

>i agree, "blue skied an' clear" was the first song i had ever heard from 
>slowdive [thanks to seeing _the doom generation_] and i was hooked the 
>second i heard it. "pygmalion" is definitely an underrated masterpiece. 
>i'm interested now in hearing FSA. any recomendations? kevin hufnagel

well, if you're coming from a slowdive perspective, _chorus_ would be the
one to start with.  either that or _further_.  both great.

; ed

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Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 20:03:38 EST
From: Primarygrl 
Subject: Re: Pygmalion influences
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In a message dated 97-12-18 10:35:00 EST, you write:

<< The closest thing in my experience is the Cocteau's
 "Victorialand"? >>

Wow!  I totally agree with you there.  "Victorialand" conjures quite the same
feel as "Pygmalion".  Have you heard the Cocteau's "Moon and the Melodies"???
It is similar to that mellow, surreal sound of the aforementioned.  

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Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 20:31:16 -0500
From: brenden1@ix.netcom.com
Subject: Re: Pygmalion influences

Speaking of "moon and the melodies", the pianist, Harold Budd, has a
whole bunch of releases that are fantastic as well. Check out "the
pearl" by Harold Budd and Brain Eno. Beautiful and atmospheric.
He recorded another cd the same year as "moon and the melodies" called
"lovely thunder" on which he dedicates a song to Simon. It sounds
basically like a re-record of one of the moon tracks.

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B    R    E    N    D    E    N

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Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 20:45:29 +0500
From: magic snowmen auras 
Subject: (non-slowdive) FS/A: pale saints 'children break' flexi

(apologies for the cross-post...but, well, y'know how it is...)

alright, it's that time of year...and i could use some cash!

the specifics:
on panic recordings leeds; summer 1988
includes:
pale saints - 'children break'
the savlons - '...and what's more'
the surprising adventures of kerry fiddles - 'shiver me timbers'
record and cardboard sleeve both in mint condition (never played)
current bid: $30

the fine print:
i'll take offers until _next_ friday (will update all interested parties)
please make offers in u.s.$ 
trades (e.g. old sarah stuff) considered (though not preferred)
please send offers/tradelists/inquiries to 

thanks.

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