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Today's Topics:
	 Re: mojave 3  (stuff for trade & sale)
	 Re: Pygmalion influences
	 Re: Pygmalion influences
	 Re: Pygmalion influences
	 RIDE LIVE VIDEO TO TRADE
	 (non-slowdive) Jazz vs. Jag
	 Re: Pygmalion influences
	 Re: (non-slowdive) Jazz vs. Jag
	 Re: (non-slowdive) Jazz vs. Jag
	 live slowdive (non slowdive)
	 Re: Jazz vs. Jag

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Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 18:39:19 -0800
From: emo-lorrene@webtv.net (emo-lorrene chialves)
Subject: Re: mojave 3  (stuff for trade & sale)

for sale:
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Ask Me Tomorrow : US issue compact disc (2-46804-A 4AD)
full length album, no pic sleeve, features a decal over
another that used to say "Mojave" (instead of "Mojave 3",
back inlay card  $6
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Shaving The Pavement: US issue cassette compilation
(pro-c-8096 w/b) featuring two Mojave 3 tracks :
Where Is The Love / Mercy (KCRW Version) for full
track listing please write in!   $20
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for trade:
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Ask Me Tomorrow album flats, 12" x 12" in size, features a
photo of the band on one side and band name on the other.
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Ask Me Tomorrow album cover posters, approx 2' x 3', full colour! pretty.
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First Avenue, Mpls (dated 05.12.1996) approx. 45M / EX
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Showbox Theatre , Seattle (dated 04.12.1996) approx 45M / EX
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La Luna , Portland (dated 04.13.1996) approx 45M / VG
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Brave New World (KCRW) (dated 11.1995) approx 30M / EX
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Morning Becomes Eclectic (KCRW) (dated 04.17.1996) approx 30M / EX
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Ronnie Scot's , London (dated 11.23.1995) approx 45M / VG
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Black Session , France (dated 11.17.1995) approx 45M / EX
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also of interest......
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Love Spirals Downwards @ Dark's Art Parlour, North Hollywood CA
(dated 08.09.96) when the band gets to their encore they cover
Mojave 3's "Mercy" approx. 45M / EX-
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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 06:55:37 -0500
From: larry@interlog.com (a big thirsty teddy bear)
Subject: Re: Pygmalion influences

>Speaking of "moon and the melodies", the pianist, Harold Budd, has a
>whole bunch of releases that are fantastic as well. Check out "the
>pearl" by Harold Budd and Brain Eno. Beautiful and atmospheric.
>He recorded another cd the same year as "moon and the melodies" called
>"lovely thunder" on which he dedicates a song to Simon. It sounds
>basically like a re-record of one of the moon tracks.

Yes, it's really just another version of "Why Do You Love Me?" (I think)

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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 18:33:12 +0100
From: j.sundstrom@ekuc.se (Jan Sundstrom)
Subject: Re: Pygmalion influences

> From: Richard Henson 
>
> Another band that you might want to check out (if you haven't yet) is
> Talk Talk.  Their last two albums, Spirit of Eden and Laughing Stock
> (and to a certain degree, their third album, Colour of Spring) are
> influences on the sound of Pygmalion.

Wow! Someone remenbering this long-forgotten band! The album you
mention are great, both of them, if you cant get hold of the original,
there is a best of out, called Natural something... (?) a beginners
introduction to Talk Talk. Get it now!

If you're curious about the sound, Catherien Wheel also got great
inspiration from them, and One of the Talk Talk guys produced some of
their best songs. It's in the vein of their slower stuff, like Fripp,
Ursa Major Space Station, Eat My Dust You Insensitive F***, Heal, Girl
Stand Still etc. Mellow, dramatic stuff...

Talk Talk. Check them out!

Jan

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Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 00:08:46 +0000
From: KEVIN HUFNAGEL 
Subject: Re: Pygmalion influences

butterfly mcqueen wrote:

>> i agree, "blue skied an' clear" was the first song i had ever heard from
>> slowdive [thanks to seeing _the doom generation_] and i was hooked the
>> second i heard it. "pygmalion" is definitely an underrated masterpiece.
>> i'm interested now in hearing FSA. any recomendations? kevin hufnagel
> 
> well, if you're coming from a slowdive perspective, _chorus_ would be the
> one to start with.  either that or _further_.  both great.
> 
> ; ed

thanks for the recomendations. i bought "further" today along with "new 
lands" and really like them both. are you familiar with windy and carl? 
they sound interesting too. kevin

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Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 07:25:22 EST
From: ALTONBARNS 
Subject: RIDE LIVE VIDEO TO TRADE
Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit

Hi

I have RIDE LIVE IN BRIXTON (Official Video VVD963, watched only
once!!) up for trade. 83 minutes long, 17 tracks. Heres what im
after. (Sorry if you have seen this list before!!)

Blind Mr. Jones - Disneyworld (CD Single   Cherry 131)
Blueboy - Dirty Mags   (CD single  Sarah99CD)
Brighter - Disney e.p.   (CD Single  Sarah69CD)
Curve - Superblaster (CD Single)
Curve - Radio Sessions (CD Album)
Dreamscape - Cradle e.p. (CD Single  Ladida23CD)
Field Mice, The - Coastal   (CD Album   Sarah606CD) 
Kitchens of Distinction - Quick as Rainbows (CD Single)
KLF - What Time is Love Story (CD ALbum JAMSCD4)
KLF - Kylie Said to Jason (CD Single  KLF10CD)
KLF (JAMMS) - Shag Times (CD Album  JAMSCD3D)
Northern Picture Library - Blue Dissolve   (CD Single  Task25)
Ocean Blue, The - Any CD singles pre 1995
Saint Etienne - I Love To Paint (CD Album)
Secret Shine - Loveblind   (CD Single  Sarah71CD)
Slowdive - Holding Our Breath(Catch the Breeze)  (CD Single)
St. Christopher - Bacharach   (CD Album  Sarah403CD)
Various - Gaol Ferry Bridge   (CD Album Sarah Compilation530CD)
Various - Battery Point   (CD Album Sarah Compilation)

IF YOU WISH TO TRADE E-MAIL ME
CHEERS ANTONY

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Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 15:31:06 -0800
From: Daniel Lee 
Subject: (non-slowdive) Jazz vs. Jag

I was looking through the archives to check, but this question wasn't
there, so...

What is the difference in tone between the Jazzmaster and Jagmaster or
any other differences (besides aesthetic)?  Sorry if this question has
been asked of the list, but I was just wondering...and to relate it to
Slowdive, what guitars did they use in their setup?  I know a
rickenbacker, and a Gibson ES-335 guitar/or copy were used, but what
else?

   dLee
*(plain as ever can be)*

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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 00:53:32 -0800
From: Richard Henson 
Subject: Re: Pygmalion influences

	And if you get into them brom listening to the Natural History
compilation, you should try out the new re-mastered editions from EMI 100
year anniversary.

						richard

At 06:33 PM 12/19/97 +0100, Jan Sundstrom wrote:

>> From: Richard Henson 
>
>> Another band that you might want to check out (if you haven't yet) is
>> Talk Talk.  Their last two albums, Spirit of Eden and Laughing Stock
>> (and to a certain degree, their third album, Colour of Spring) are
>> influences on the sound of Pygmalion.
>
> Wow! Someone remenbering this long-forgotten band! The album you
> mention are great, both of them, if you cant get hold of the original,
> there is a best of out, called Natural something... (?) a beginners
> introduction to Talk Talk. Get it now!

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Date: Sun, 21 Dec 1997 14:36:44 -0500
From: larry@interlog.com (a big thirsty teddy bear)
Subject: Re: (non-slowdive) Jazz vs. Jag

> I was looking through the archives to check, but this question wasn't
> there, so...
>
> What is the difference in tone between the Jazzmaster and Jagmaster or
> any other differences (besides aesthetic)?  

The Jag is generally more trebly, I find.

> Sorry if this question has
> been asked of the list, but I was just wondering...and to relate it to
> Slowdive, what guitars did they use in their setup?  I know a
> rickenbacker, and a Gibson ES-335 guitar/or copy were used, but what
> else?

Mostly the Rick (Neil) and some Teles (Rachel and Christian). They used the
white ES-335 in the early days and then you see it again in the Pygmalion
photos.

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Date: Sun, 21 Dec 1997 17:32:54 -0500 (EST)
From: modulation 
cc: avalyn@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: (non-slowdive) Jazz vs. Jag

> I was looking through the archives to check, but this question wasn't
> there, so...
> What is the difference in tone between the Jazzmaster and Jagmaster or
> any other differences (besides aesthetic)?  Sorry if this question has
> been asked of the list, but I was just wondering...and to relate it to

jazzmasters tend to be more midrangey, the scale length is longer.  The
picups are different, as is the switching system

the jag is more smooth in tone, but tends to also have a LOT of presence.
both guitars don't have much sustain, which is good for effects, IMO

later

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Date: Sun, 21 Dec 1997 17:38:32 -0500
From: Chris Kushmider 
Subject: live slowdive (non slowdive)

Hello,

If anyone has any live slowdive/related bands audios or videos I don't
have, please email me. My list is at:

http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Studio/1670/tapelist.htm

Or I can email you the list.
Sorry for the public post to the list, but I haven't found many tapes.

Thanks
Chris

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Date: Sun, 21 Dec 1997 16:45:46 -0800 (PST)
From: JOSEPH JOHN MORENO 
Subject: Re: Jazz vs. Jag

On Sun, 21 Dec 1997, a big thirsty teddy bear wrote:

>> I was looking through the archives to check, but this question wasn't
>> there, so...
>>
>> What is the difference in tone between the Jazzmaster and Jagmaster or
>> any other differences (besides aesthetic)?  
> 
> The Jag is generally more trebly, I find.

Well if you mean the Squire JAGMASTER, a jazzmaster/jaguar shaped guitar 
body w/ 2 HUMBUCKERS and jaguar scale 24.75" neck length. These 
guitars, because of their pickups are actually tonally thicker than their 
older jazzmaster counterparts, which sport bright sounding single coils 
and a longer 25.5" neck length. The Humbuckers on the jagmaster, I would 
say, make this guitar also thicker sounding than a jaguar as well, for 
these also have shielded single coil pickups.

If you meant the difference between a jaguar and jazzmaster, the jaguar 
is going to sound a bit darker and less bright again because of the 
shielded pickups and shorter neck scale. 

>> Sorry if this question has
>> been asked of the list, but I was just wondering...and to relate it to
>> Slowdive, what guitars did they use in their setup?  I know a
>> rickenbacker, and a Gibson ES-335 guitar/or copy were used, but what
>> else?

Neil: Blonde and Fireglow Ricky 360s and telecasters
Christian: Strats, Telecasters
Rachel: Es-335 copy(by Aria), Fender deluxe thinline tele, gibson melody 
maker

If you or anyone else are interested in other stuff like this, check out 
the Sound-l mailing list.

Happy holidays to everyone!

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