The Avalyn Digest
Vol.98 #013
January 28th, 1998
http://www.lysator.liu.se/~chief/avalyn.html
Today's Topics:
RE: ambient for slowdive fans
Re: Jock Sturgess - *art or exploitation?*
Re: [mbv] skipping Lilys CDs (fwd)
Re[2]: Jock Sturgess - *art or exploitation?*
Spiritualized tour
windy and carl e-mail address...
Re: ambient for slowdive fans
Nike Ad
Re: ambient for slowdive fans
Re: ambient for slowdive fans
Re: ambient for slowdive fans
Ambient: Third Eye Foundation
verve/araki
Halou
verve/nike
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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 09:12:51 -0600 (CST)
From: "..." <1cc5776@unixstew.tstc.edu>
Subject: RE: ambient for slowdive fans
>> are these bands all really ambient music? What is your definition of
>> ambient music?
>
> I don't know *anything* about ambient music. I thought I heard some
> people talking about it once, but I'm still not sure if there really
> is anything called ambient music. There doesn't seem to be a section
> for ambient music at Walmart!
>
>> or is it a way for you to prove how many bands you've
>> ever heard of?
>
> I'm not really sure if most of the bands I listed actually exist. Many
> of these band names came from hours and hours of playing Scrabble.
funny! it's just that someone else described "ambient" as being stuff
like "missing you..." and "good day sunshine" and if the pixies have ever
done anything that could even be considered to be in that realm...
well... I never could find a copy at Wal-Mart
:)
cory
1cc5776@unixstew.tstc.edu
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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 09:22:34 -0600 (CST)
From: "..." <1cc5776@unixstew.tstc.edu>
Subject: Re: Jock Sturgess - *art or exploitation?*
> I apologize if this is "flame bait", but it's *never* OK for a "cultural
> elite" theory ("Some people just don't get it..") to pass unchallenged,
> especially when people's lives are affected. It's one thing for me to get
> huffy if someone tells me that Loveless sounds like "noise" to them - it's
> another thing entirely to defend the exploitation of young people. Sturgess'
> pictures are not innocence captured, they're innocence lost.
regarding this post I'd like to say that throughout the course of it all
I was disagreeing until I read the last line. If you look at those
photographs, the expressions on the faces of those "naked young women and
girls..." is NOT one of innocence captured but indeed of innocence lost,
or at least of innocence ignored. we live in a sick world, and things
like this really do numb us. So, although I don't necessarily agree with
the tone of this person's post, I must agree with the general idea...
and I thought they were just fine, but then I got to thinking about it...
just ideas...
cory
1cc5776@unixstew.tstc.edu
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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 14:15:44 -0500 (EST)
From: aaj292@agora.ulaval.ca (Christian Morin)
Subject: Re: [mbv] skipping Lilys CDs (fwd)
> Oh since I'm here, has anyone seen Greg Araki's movie 'Doom Generation'? I
> think that movie featured one or two of Slowdive's songs. But I can't
> remember if those songs can be found on my only Slowdive CD, Souvlaki...
In the movie The doom generation you can hear "Alison" from Souvlaki and
"blue skied an clear" from Pygmalion but only that track feature on the
soundtrack
Chris
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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 98 13:25:47 CST
From: Crios@dminet.davidson-marketing.com
Subject: Re[2]: Jock Sturgess - *art or exploitation?*
Right on. My sentiments exactly.
Chris
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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 21:45:15 +0100
From: Erik Soderstrom
Subject: Spiritualized tour
Spiritualized are on the way back to Scandinavia on their current
European leg of their tour. Here are their dates in Sweden (haven't
heard anything about the venues, or dates in other scandinavian
countries yet):
Spiritualized:
5/3 Goteborg
6/3 Malmo
7/3 Stockholm
//Erik
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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 13:07:20 PST
From: "dan smith"
Subject: windy and carl e-mail address...
The kids are not yet cyber-literate, at least not the last time I heard
from Carl.
Dan
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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 01:53:57 EST
From: Primarygrl
Subject: Re: ambient for slowdive fans
In a message dated 98-01-26 11:41:22 EST, you write:
<<
are these bands all really ambient music? What is your definition of
ambient music? or is it a way for you to prove how many bands you've
ever heard of?
>>
Oh COME ON!!! was that last question really called for??? Obviously this
person must think of the listed bands as "ambient", you don't hafta knock them
with sarcasm. It is easy to see how some may consider these ambient, although
most of them fall into different genres of music categorization.
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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 01:56:50 EST
From: Primarygrl
Subject: Nike Ad
The song on the Nike ad is "Bittersweet Symphony" by the Verve.
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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 02:05:44 EST
From: Primarygrl
Subject: Re: ambient for slowdive fans
i can hardly believe no one mentioned Gusgus! Polydistortion has some neat
electronic creations on it. i, personally, love the whole album, but as for
ambient... the 10th song on the album, entitled "purple" is great. it has
that "in mind" feel to it.
someone said Flowchart. good recommendation. they are great.
ummmm, i think if you don't mind checking out an album for one song on it, you
might look into the most recent Boyracer album, with the song "we were
wrong"...that song is really pretty and floaty...
Main's Hz is a good album for ambient music. especially the first few tracks,
where he sings.
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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 23:20:52 -0800
From: voltron
Subject: Re: ambient for slowdive fans
Primarygrl wrote:
>> are these bands all really ambient music? What is your definition of
>> ambient music? or is it a way for you to prove how many bands you've
>> ever heard of?
>
> Oh COME ON!!! was that last question really called for??? Obviously this
> person must think of the listed bands as "ambient", you don't hafta knock
> them with sarcasm. It is easy to see how some may consider these ambient,
> although most of them fall into different genres of music categorization.
I think you guys missed the part where he/she said in the original post
that not all of these bands were ambient, some were rock, but he/she
felt they would be good recommendations for slowdive fans. Sorry I
don't have the orignal post.
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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 23:54:50 -0800
From: voltron
Subject: Re: ambient for slowdive fans
Primarygrl wrote:
> i can hardly believe no one mentioned Gusgus! Polydistortion has some neat
> electronic creations on it. i, personally, love the whole album, but as for
> ambient... the 10th song on the album, entitled "purple" is great. it has
> that "in mind" feel to it.
Also along the lines of gusgus I'd have to mention Halou, a husband and
wife duo from San Francisco. Distorted beats and ethereal vocals and
sounds reminiscent of Cocteau Twins but with a darker/harsher edge.
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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 05:30:55 EST
From: Primarygrl
Subject: Ambient: Third Eye Foundation
I agree with whoever listed Third Eye Foundation as a band to check out. They
are incredibly organic, yet still acheive a Warp/Rephlex Records-like feel,
with rhythms that sometimes parallel Seefeel and Aphex Twin.
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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 05:28:19 EST
From: Primarygrl
Subject: verve/araki
<<
Anyone here who likes The Verve? The Nike commercial (with the new theme,
'I Can') during the superbowl actually used 'Bittersweet Symphony'. I liked
it. The song, I mean. And maybe the commercial itself.
Oh since I'm here, has anyone seen Greg Araki's movie 'Doom Generation'? I
think that movie featured one or two of Slowdive's songs. But I can't
remember if those songs can be found on my only Slowdive CD, Souvlaki...
>>
the Verve's new album is great, but i cannot say the same for A Northern
Soul... Strom In Heaven was much prettier. I don't really like the fact that
their beautiful "Bittersweet Symphony" is the theme song for the new Nike ad.
as for 'Doom Generation'....there was only one song by Slowdive, and it is
"Blue Skied An' Clear", which is off of Pygmallion. One of my favorite
Slowdive songs...
Primary Girl
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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 05:38:11 EST
From: Primarygrl
Subject: Halou
In a message dated 98-01-28 03:02:23 EST, you write:
<<
Also along the lines of gusgus I'd have to mention Halou, a husband and
wife duo from San Francisco. Distorted beats and ethereal vocals and
sounds reminiscent of Cocteau Twins but with a darker/harsher edge.
>>
Is Halou's stuff available? And, if so, what format and where? I go to San
Francisco, as I live a couple hours away, quite often. I have never heard of
this band. Do they play shows there at all?
Primary Girl
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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 10:37:23 -0500 (EST)
From: butterfly mcqueen
Subject: verve/nike
> the Verve's new album is great, but i cannot say the same for A Northern
> Soul... Strom In Heaven was much prettier. I don't really like the fact
> that their beautiful "Bittersweet Symphony" is the theme song for the new
> Nike ad.
just in case people missed it the first time around, "bittersweet symphony"
is now owned by the rolling stones because of that sample, and they (or
their publishing company, at any rate) are the ones who sold the licensing
to nike.
so the verve haven't totally sold out yet. but they still suck! :)
i miss storm in heaven....
; ed
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