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Today's Topics:
	 brian burgher: trading problems?
	 Re: Chapterhouse
	 Re: Chapterhouse
	 Re: Chapterhouse
	 main, again
	 Re: main, again
	 Re: brian burgher: trading problems?
	 Re: brian burgher: trading problems?
	 Re: brian burgher: trading problems?
	 skipping Lilys CDs, again
	 Listowner indisposed
	 Re: Chapterhouse
	 Re: Chapterhouse
	 Re: Chapterhouse
	 MBV for sale

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Date: Sun, 1 Feb 1998 21:43:50 -0500 (EST)
From: butterfly mcqueen 
Subject: brian burgher: trading problems?

is anyone else having trouble completing a trade for a live windy & carl
tape with brian burgher?  he has repeatedly denied ever receiving my
slowdive tape and has stopped responding to my e-mails.  this really sucks.
i'm not losing sleep over it, but this is just some wack trading.  over the
many years i've done trading, the usps has never lost anything.  so i don't
really buy that.

his original is below.

; ed

>Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 03:55:38 +0000
>From: Brian Burgher 
>Reply-To: starcloud6@earthlink.net
>To: avalyn@lysator.liu.se
>Subject: windy and carl taped live last night in philly for trade
>
>I Have noticed more than once that people had mentioned Windy and Carl
>on this list well i have a treat i just seen them live tonight for the
>second time  and they let me tape the show with my portable dat
>i am wondering if anyone with the singles of slowdive would like to
>trade me for a copy being that the singles are now extinct i presently
>only own the 3 full lengths and morningrise if anybody would like to
>trade let me know all i ask is that the tape is good quality as mine
>will be THIS SHOW I HAVE IS NOT FOR SALE ONLY FOR TRADE i also have a 
>HOVERCRAFT show taped i would sell copies of this being that i think
>they are assholes personality wise not musically though both shows are
>recorded in philly.great quality 
>                                         the hamburger pimp


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Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 01:14:18 EST
From: Flwr2hide@aol.com
Subject: Re: Chapterhouse

i think they broke up

i know simon rowe one of the guitarist is in mojave 3

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Date: Mon, 02 Feb 1998 01:39:48 -0500
From: Andy McMillan 
Subject: Re: Chapterhouse

Flwr2hide@aol.com wrote:

> i know simon rowe one of the guitarist is in mojave 3

	Did Rowe really join  Mojave? Will he be on the new album? As for
Chapterhouse: yes they have definitely dissolved. A 2 CD "singles
collection w/ bonus unreleased demos" package came out last year in
England on their label (Deadicated). I waited, but it seemed that no US
release looked likely, so I mailordered it. Pretty nice collection all
told. For some reason they included a lot of album tracks and most of
the B-sides but not all of them. That's what I can't figure--why not cut
a couple of the same old album versions and make the effort to compile
ALL of the hard-to-find stuff? Oh well.
	Actually, does anybody know where the demos on "Rownderbout" came from?
Are they tracks from an unreleased 3rd album, or songs that didn't make
the cut on the first two? Has anybody heard a group called Bionic? I
hear some of the ex-Chapterhouse guys are behind that project.

	Andy McMillan

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Date: Mon, 02 Feb 1998 02:51:57 -0500
From: rboge@ix.netcom.com
Subject: Re: Chapterhouse

> Anybody know what happened to this band?  I really enjoy their music.  Did
> they form any other bands after their breakup?
 
It all seems like a mystery to me. They did a 4 week tour on
the US (opening for The Wonder Stuff) in February 1994 in support
of Blood Music....then, they seemed to vanish. Dedicated
released the Rounderbout cd collection, without any mention of what
happened to the band. (and everything on those discs were released
before Blood Music).

Perhaps Rachel knows? 

For anyone who doesn't have Chapterhouse's debut album Whirlpool,
(a  #1 album on the US college charts in 1991) 
I can probably hook you up with a new copy for ~$5.

Rachel sang background vocals on the single "Pearl" from the album &
Slowdive opened various dates for them in 1991. Does anyone know 
if she ever sang b.vocals with the band live? There's an audience video 
of one of the  Chapterhouse/Slowdive dates, but it does not look like
she appeared 'on-stage' with them during the song.   

On a completely different note,
I remember Neil sang with Lush during their encore on
the Shaving The Pavement tour, I ~think~ it was on "Ciao",
in place of jarvis cocker, sportin' a cowboy hat. 

There are a few new pictures up at my site. If anyone has anything
else they want to add, send over an e-mail & I'll put it up.
http://pw2.netcom.com/~rboge/slowdive.html


this just in re:Chapterhouse
> i think they broke up
> i know simon rowe one of the guitarist is in mojave 3

1 down, 4 to go. That would still leave the primary songwriters: 
andrew sherriff/stephen patman, who
both shared vocal/guitar duties   
russell barrett on bass
ashley bates on drums 

Maybe this is better left a mystery? 
Perhaps Rachel can just ask Simon what really happened 
and forward it to the list.  

more just in
> does anybody know where the demos on "Rownderbout" came from?
> Are they tracks from an unreleased 3rd album, or songs that didn't make
> the cut on the first two? Has anybody heard a group called Bionic? I
> hear some of the ex-Chapterhouse guys are behind that project.

I read somewhere that the demos were older. This might have been 
mentioned on Dedicated's site. I've never heard of Bionic. Anyone?

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Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 12:41:08 -0600
From: David Poppie 
Subject: main, again

In regards to the person who was interested in the Main box, get in touch 
with me I have one.  Has anyone heard of Starphase 25?  They are an 
excellent spacey/pshych band.  Not Slowdive, but might interest people with 
Slowdive taste.
David
seven@itis.com

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Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 15:21:17 +0000
From: "wade@tapehouse.com" 
Subject: Re: main, again

what label is Starphase 25 on? 

Also, what is a good Dj shadow album to get?
I got the one called preemptive strike, but it wasn't that striking!

wsettle

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Date: Mon, 02 Feb 1998 19:32:22 +0000
From: Brian Burgher 
Subject: Re: brian burgher: trading problems?

first off ed sent the tape through regular mail second off ask roger
boge how his tape of windy and carl is and also roger your spiritualized
tape will be coming the wind y and carl tape is good right roger the
spiritualized will be even better but ed will not know that because he
will now never get one
how you like that pal? and the reason i did not email him back is
because i am not on my computer every day i have a job that permits
little or no sleep 
                             brian

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Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 19:05:05 -0500 (EST)
From: butterfly mcqueen 
Subject: Re: brian burgher: trading problems?

>first off ed sent the tape through regular mail 

it's pretty obvious that you have very little experience with trading.  this
is what you wrote in an e-mail to me on 11/21/97:

        >i have never done this before so how would
        >you like to go about this 

i'll leave the rest regarding this detail unsaid.

>second off ask roger
>boge how his tape of windy and carl is and also roger your spiritualized
>tape will be coming the wind y and carl tape is good right roger the
>spiritualized will be even better but ed will not know that because he
>will now never get one

>how you like that pal? 

that's really mature.  i like it a lot.

>and the reason i did not email him back is
>because i am not on my computer every day i have a job that permits
>little or no sleep 

as i told you in private, i knew how long it usually took you to reply to my
e-mails, and i waited much longer for your later (lack of) responses.
several times.

right about now, i don't give too much of a shit whether or not i will ever
receive that tape.  what i do care about is that people should be careful
dealing with a fuckup trader like you.  and until both brad and i receive
our tapes, there is really no evidence to the contrary.

i apologize to the list for making this public, but bad trading deserves to
be exposed.

; ed

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Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 03:11:07 EST
From: Primarygrl@aol.com
Subject: Re: brian burgher: trading problems?

In a message dated 98-02-02 19:26:04 EST, you write:

<< i apologize to the list for making this public, but bad trading deserves to
 be exposed. >>

I, for one, appreciate this being posted for all of the listees.  It is good
to know who is responsible and who is not.  :)

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Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 16:40:31 -0600
From: John Van 
Subject: skipping Lilys CDs, again

Just a further note on those pesky defective
 Lilys discs...After several *thorough* cleanings
 of my CD laser lens using one of those CD cleaners
 (I used a "dry" type that doesn't use solvents),
 my copy of In the Presence of Nothing no longer
 has problems when playing. So anybody with this
 problem, give it a try!

 Maybe all CDs/CD players have different 'tolerance' 
 levels for dust, particles,etc. before they start to 
 skip and jitter when playing. And judging by the 
 experiences of people on this list and MBV-l, 
 the Lilys CD is one of those low-tolerance CDs...

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Date: Thu, 05 Feb 1998 16:20:00 +0100
From: Erik Soderstrom 
Subject: Listowner indisposed

Hi gang,
because of muscle related injury (from working too hard with computers the
last few weeks) I won't be able to work with the lists and websites the next
couple of weeks. Therefor no lists of any kind will be posted and web updates
will be pretty scarce. Hope to be back when I'm out of medicine and my arm 
works again.

If something extremely important needs to be done you can still contact me
(my girlfriend will occasionally help me out, but it has to be pretty 
 important...)

Stay safe,
//Erik 

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Date: Fri, 06 Feb 1998 12:51:00 +0900
From: Mihoko Tsujihata 
Subject: Re: Chapterhouse

  One day, I found this (Select '96 July)

>  Since falling out of flavour, Reading shoegazers Chapterhouse
>  have opened a used-furniture store in Leeds.

  Is it truth? or it's only gossip.....?
If truth, Who?  Someone out of the guys, but Andy and Simon (Rowe)?
Stephen?  Russell?? .....Ashley???  I don't know at all.

Regards,

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Date: Fri, 06 Feb 1998 12:51:00 +0900
From: Mihoko Tsujihata 
Subject: Re: Chapterhouse

>Has anybody heard a group called Bionic? I
>hear some of the ex-Chapterhouse guys are behind that project.

  Yeah, ex-Chaps singer/guitarist Andrew Sherriff is now in Bio.com,
alter ego of Bionic.  Their sound is really Techno.....funky but atmospheric,
spooky, and deeply dubby.

  Last year, they released their debut single "GridLock" from Emissions
Audio Output (Andrew Wetherall's label) as Bionic. .....Then the album
"Coming Up for Air", which was 'album of the month' in Muzik (full mark!),
from their label Deepstar under Bio.com.

Bio.com. are:
Andy Sherriff (ex-Chapterhouse)
Simon Gotel   (ex-Opus III)

Official Home Page:
http://www.adelphoi.co.uk/
http://www.adelphoi.co.uk/bio.com.html

Emissions Home Page:
http://www1.haywire.co.uk/haywire/emissions/

  Their very first work seems to be in Global Communication's (great remixer
of Chap's "Blood Music: pentamerous metamorphosis"!!) album "76 14",'94.
Andy and Simon collaborated with GC in its.....sorry, I've forgotten the title
(because it's only number!).....but that track was also cut for single,
"maiden voyage".  Maybe they input some instruments, vocal or guitar by Andy..
 .?
Anyway, very beautiful ambient track!

  Andy has also joined in Slab (ex-Drum Club, remixer of "don't look now")
as live crew before Bio.com.

  Last summer, Bio.com toured with Megadog posse. Live P.A. and Andy DJing!

  Recently, Andy plays guitar in Kirsty Hawkshaw's debut single "sci-clone".
Kirsty is also ex-Opus III like Simon, and its co-producer is her fiance
Mark Pritchard (Global Communication, J-Knights, etc.) !
Another good collaboration, isn't it?

  That's all I know about one of the ex-Chapterhouse guys.
But I cannot find Bio.com's "Coming Up for Air" album.
Even we can see many fabourable reviews about it.....
I deadly want!!　:(

Regards,

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Date: Fri, 6 Feb 1998 13:35:19 EST
From: ALTONBARNS@aol.com
Subject: Re: Chapterhouse

In a message dated 06/02/98  04:55:20, you write:

<<   One day, I found this (Select '96 July)
 
 >  Since falling out of flavour, Reading shoegazers Chapterhouse
 >  have opened a used-furniture store in Leeds.
 
   Is it truth? or it's only gossip.....?
 If truth, Who?  Someone out of the guys, but Andy and Simon (Rowe)?
 Stephen?  Russell?? .....Ashley???  I don't know at all. >>

No way!!!!!
I heard it was a used car-sales business...

Seriously though...if it came from SELECT.....doubtful springs to mind.

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Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 09:11:17 +0100
From: "Kurt.Verweire" 
Subject: MBV for sale

Hello,

I have two My Bloody Valentine CDs for sale:
(1) Tremolo EP, and
(2) Glider EP.
My price is 7$ each, plus shipping costs. If interested, please e-mail
me privately.

Bye,
Kurt

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