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Today's Topics:
	 Re: looking for a copy of blueday.
	 Re: Anakin
	 RE: looking for a copy of blueday.
	 RE: looking for a copy of blueday.
	 Re: Anakin
	 Re: Anakin
	 Re: looking for a copy of blueday.
	 RE: looking for a copy of blueday.
	 Losing Today - Is Rachel married?
	 estonian bizarre
	 Re: Losing Today - Is Rachel married?
	 Re: estonian bizarre
	 Re: estonian bizarre
	 Re: looking for a copy of blueday.
	 Re: Closedown

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Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 13:55:58 -0700
From: aaron 
Subject: Re: looking for a copy of blueday.

> > If I remember my Slowdive interviews, I think that Blueday was actually
> > Creation's idea, to expose the material to audiences who didn't have access
> > to the original EP's.
> 
> If that was their meaning, I can't understand why they didn't include
> "Golden Hair" and "Avalyn II"? I can understand Catch The Breeze being
> left out, as it is included on JFAD, but not the other two. Someone
> on the list with connections to Creation?

In a big takeover interview Rachel said it was a pricing thing.  7 songs
are considered a mini-album while more would be a full album and fall
into the higher price range.

aaron

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Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 22:07:14 +0100
From: Erik Soderstrom 
Subject: Re: Anakin

At 16:01 1998-02-14 +0100, I wrote:

> Have to say that I love the "starry smooth hound" song 'Dreamt u in
> a dream' by the way. Touch of urban trip-hop mixed with etheral
> sounding synthesizers and samples of talking people (I probably
> ought to recognize where these come from, right?). Love it! Really
> similar to the 97-98 version of Estonia's Bizarre and even closer
> to Sweden's Doris Days (who released their fantastic 12" (and CDS)
> 'To Ulrike M.' world wide this week even).

After reading a few 4AD-L digests where people mention starry smooth
hound together with guitars and vocals, I realized the I really ment
Thievery Corporation's 'The Foundation' above. Heh.

starry smooth hound is good too though, but nothing like TC. Sorry
about the mistake there.

 //Erik

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Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 15:25:40 -0600
From: travis salisbury 
Subject: RE: looking for a copy of blueday.



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From: 	aaron
Sent: 	Saturday, February 14, 1998 2:52 PM
Subject: 	Re: looking for a copy of blueday.


Come on now, does this really sound like a legitimate reason to you? 
When you buy a car and then give people rides in it, do you expect them
to pay for part of your car payments?  The most anyone I know expects is
for the riders to pay for gas money.  If Dave charged the cost of blank
CDRs ($5-$7 I believe) plus postage then he wouldn't be ripping people
off.

The main reason we all love Slowdive is they make great music and having access to this music is very important. I'll admit that I bought the CDR because I can't find these releases anywhere. Whether someone makes money or not is their choice and they will suffer the flack they receive.I personally will shell out money for the music I love, regardless of  the receipents choices. Creation is not going to make these songs available anytime soon and most people who have these songs want to *trade*. What if you don't have anything to trade?...you resort to spending money on unauthorized releases! I have been lucky that there are some very kind people who have made copies of live recordings for me, but most want something in return, money or other tapes. Why deny the fans this great music because of money issues? Money is meaningless to the feelings you get when you listen to Slowdive.

Plus the sound quality won't degrade like cassettes do........ 
Travis

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Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 16:55:35 -0500 (EST)
From: butterfly mcqueen 
Subject: RE: looking for a copy of blueday.

>Come on now, does this really sound like a legitimate reason to you? 
>When you buy a car and then give people rides in it, do you expect them
>to pay for part of your car payments?  The most anyone I know expects is
>for the riders to pay for gas money.  If Dave charged the cost of blank
>CDRs ($5-$7 I believe) plus postage then he wouldn't be ripping people
>off.

well, first i'll start off by saying that i "bought" the cd boot as well.
(actually, i traded my original cd of blueday for the boot b/c of the extra
songs -- i'm not a collector by any means.)

anyway -- if dave was charging $10 or something, i don't know how much one
could object.  but, if i remember correctly, he was charging $20.  that's a
little different.  i think that's a little high, but i don't think i'd jump
on him about it.  he must have put some effort into it, right?  put together
artwork for it...  i dunno....

yours in devil's advocacy,

; ed

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Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 16:33:15 -0500
From: eddiej7@juno.com (i'll be your future boy)
Subject: Re: Anakin

Can i get the list?

Evan

>> it is also readily available in the US. From where I don't know,
>> but I have seen it at Siren (www.sirencd.com) at least.
>
> Just noticed that Matt@4AD posted a list of US record stores where
> you could find the sampler to the 4ad-l list a while ago. Anyone
> want me to post the list, let me know.

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Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 23:13:35 +0100
From: Erik Soderstrom 
Subject: Re: Anakin

>> Just noticed that Matt@4AD posted a list of US record stores where
>> you could find the sampler to the 4ad-l list a while ago. Anyone
>> want me to post the list, let me know.
>
> Can i get the list?

Here it is:

> Date:    Fri, 9 Jan 1998 17:25:51 -0800
> From:    matt 
> Subject: decent shops
>
> all should stock several copies of the anakin compilation.

birmingham AL - magic platter
tempe AZ - stinkweeds
berkeley CA - mod lang, amoeba, rasputin's
claremont CA - rhino
encinitas CA - lou's
long beach CA - fingerprints
los angeles CA - rhino, aron's
sacramento CA - the Beat
san diego CA - off the record
san francisco CA - amoeba
boulder CO - wax trax
colorado springs CO - toons
denver CO - twist and shout, wax trax
bridgeport CT - secret sounds
orlando FL - murmur
atlanta GA - wax n facts
davenport IA - CoOp
champaign IL - record swap
chicago IL - reckless, evil clown, quaker goes deaf
indianapolis IN - luna
lawrence KS - kief's
louisville KY - earxtacy
boston MA - newbury comics
silver spring MD - vinyl ink
wheaton MD - phantasmagoria
minneapolis MN - oarfolk, roadrunner, let it be, electric fetus
st. louis MO - vintage vinyl
fords NJ - vintage vinyl
princeton NJ - princeton record exchange
albuquerque NM - bow wow records
buffalo NY - home of the hits
new paltz NY - rhino
new york NY - all kim's, other music, venus records
rochester NY - lakeshore record exchange
cincinnati OH - wizard
cleveland OH - bent crayon
massillon OH - rioux's
toledo OH - b-bop recoprds
tulsa OK - mohawk records
portland OR - ozone, music millenium
pittsburgh PA - randy's
providence RI - in your ear
knoxville TN - disc exchange
austin TX - waterloo
houston TX - sound exchange, soundwaves
salt lake city UT - modified music
charlottesville VA - plan 9
richmond VA - plan 9
burlington VT - pure pop
seattle WA - orpheum
madison WI - exclusive company
milwaukee WI - atomic records

 //Erik

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Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 17:23:12 -0500
From: Chris Kushmider 
Subject: Re: looking for a copy of blueday.

travis salisbury wrote:

> The main reason we all love Slowdive is they make great music and having access to this music is very > important. I'll admit that I bought the CDR because I can't find these releases anywhere. Whether someone > makes money or not is their choice and they will suffer the flack they receive.I personally will shell out > money for the music I love, regardless of  the receipents choices. Creation is not going to make these songs > available anytime soon and most people who have these songs want to *trade*. What if you don't have anything > to trade?...you resort to spending money on unauthorized releases! I have been lucky that there are some > very kind people who have made copies of live recordings for me, but most want something in return, money or > other tapes. Why deny the fans this great music because of money issues? Money is meaningless to the > feelings you get when you listen to Slowdive.

there are always people selling their collections in addition to many
places on the internet that sell these recordings..sure it may take some
work, but otherwise you are taking out your laziness by buying some type
of pirated CDR. 
if these were 'unauthorized releases', then it'd be something different,
however, these are bonafide, legitimate singles that people are making
money from. 

> Plus the sound quality won't degrade like cassettes do........

so you go from 'money is meaningless to the feelings you get when you
listen to slowdive' to 'i really care about 1 generation difference in a
cassette and a pirated cd-r?

chris


-- 
"... but sometimes I'd feel more fulfilled 
making Christmas cards for the mentally ill."
--Morrissey

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Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 17:30:03 -0500 (EST)
From: Claire De Leon! 
Subject: RE: looking for a copy of blueday.

> anyway -- if dave was charging $10 or something, i don't know how much one
> could object.  but, if i remember correctly, he was charging $20.  that's a
> little different.  i think that's a little high, but i don't think i'd jump
> on him about it.  he must have put some effort into it, right?  put together
> artwork for it...  i dunno....
> 
I just saw some CDR's in a shop for about $10 each. Time to do it, make
the artwork, ship it, etc. makes about $15 seem resonable - I'd agree that
jumping all over him seems a bit silly. But whatever.

	I also just got the Losing Today fanzine, which has a Mojave 3
interview. Some interesting stuff in there, including rachel stating she
is married (was this discussed?), and her response to "have you ever
thought of a slowdive best-of compilation (w/b-sides, rarities, live
tracks etc.)?" To which she replies with a resounding "NO!" and nothing
else! Ouch! She also mentions what she's into these days, etc, and there
are some nice pictures of her and neil! It's overall a really nice zine,
and has a ton of great interviews (shiFt/Should, Bethany Curve, Silvania,
Mojave 3, etc.) and reviews (Closedown, Lovesliescrushing, Mahogany, Half
String, Auburn Lull, etc etc etc.). They're for sale for $4.95 if anyone
is interested... (sorry for all the plugs lately!)

Daniel
	
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Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 23:45:27 +0100
From: Erik Soderstrom 
Subject: Losing Today - Is Rachel married?

>	I also just got the Losing Today fanzine, which has a Mojave 3
> interview. Some interesting stuff in there, including rachel stating she
> is married (was this discussed?)

This is strange... there's this interview in Swedish on the web (or it
was at least there before, it's gone now for some reason) from when M3
were touring Scandinavia back in 96, where she said, in between everything
and nothing, (translated) "me and my man" (in Swedish you usually mean 
"husband" when you say "man" in that way), but the guy who did the interview 
claims it was a translation mistake from his side, when I asked him about it
but he never changed it on the web.

How new is this issue? Is it possible that whoever put together the
interview did it by picking up bits and pieces on the web?

 //Erik

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Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 23:39:43 +0100
From: "LOSING TODAY" 
Subject: estonian bizarre

does anyone know if Estonian Bizarre have never done a full lenght cd?

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Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 17:57:47 -0500 (EST)
From: Claire De Leon! 
Subject: Re: Losing Today - Is Rachel married?

> How new is this issue? Is it possible that whoever put together the
> interview did it by picking up bits and pieces on the web?
> 
Nope, it looks like a full-on interview, with real questions, etc. Ask 
tenebre@pronet.it - he's on the list though...

daniel

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Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 17:57:06 -0500 (EST)
From: Claire De Leon! 
Subject: Re: estonian bizarre

On Wed, 14 Feb 1996, LOSING TODAY wrote:

> does anyone know if Estonian Bizarre have never done a full lenght cd?
> 
you can e-mail Bizarre c/o Lauri at:

lauri@forwards.ee

Daniel

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Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 00:29:41 +0100
From: Erik Soderstrom 
Subject: Re: estonian bizarre

At 23:39 1996-02-14 +0100, LOSING TODAY wrote:
> does anyone know if Estonian Bizarre have never done a full lenght cd?

No CDs, but two full length MCs - "Beautica" and "Cafe de Flor".

 //Erik

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Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 17:30:56 -0800
From: daniel lee 
Subject: Re: looking for a copy of blueday.

aaron wrote:

> Feel free to write to me if you are interested in a very high
> quality cassette copy of the rarities or even a DAT copy.  All I ask for
> is a blank tape and return postage.

Hmmm...I'd like to take you up on that offer (if you're not swamped by
the other replies?)?  

daniel

(i have a feeling you may regret your words in the near future :) )

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Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 18:47:13 -0800 (PST)
From: midglider 
Subject: Re: Closedown

Aloha fellow shoegazers!

Someone recently mentioned a review of Closedown in a
new issue of Losing Today. Are they putting new
material out? (I'd thought they'd already disbanded).
BYW, does anyone know where we can subscribed/get
issues of Losing Today?

cheers,

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