The Avalyn Digest
Vol.98 #024
February 17th, 1998
http://www.lysator.liu.se/~chief/avalyn.html
Today's Topics:
RE: Quality of Live in Oslo?
RE: Quality of Live in Oslo?
Clarification Re: Quality of Live in Oslo?
Indie/ Rarities Auction
slowdive (the song) now on my page
bootleg info...
Re: Clarification Re: Quality of Live in Oslo?
slowdive covers who?
Shoe Pie auction...
San Fran. show tomorrow night 2/17
Re: covers by slowdive
Re: covers by slowdive
..??"mojave 3"
Re: Clarification Re: Quality of Live in Oslo?
Re: San Fran. show tomorrow night 2/17
Re: Live Slowdive
Re: Gary Clark (was: RE: Quality of Live in Oslo?)
Re: Gary Clark (was: RE: Quality of Live in Oslo?)
re: Grimble Grumble, etc.
Re: looking for a copy of blueday.
Re: Gary Clark (was: RE: Quality of Live in Oslo?)
Re: Gary Clark (was: RE: Quality of Live in Oslo?)
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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 00:00:36 +0100
From: Erik Soderstrom
Subject: RE: Quality of Live in Oslo?
At 16:53 1998-02-15 -0600, travis salisbury wrote:
>> Are you kidding here? I didn't even know it was available on vinyl.
>
> I was under the impression from Luis that he put the mp3s up from the
> original vinyl? maybe I misunderstood him....
Okay, I see. The original - ie. the one the tapes were made from
originally - was a vinyl recording. Right? Luis?
//Erik
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Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 17:02:48 -0600 (CST)
From: James W Weber
Subject: RE: Quality of Live in Oslo?
err.. anyone have hte url for these mp3's? ive never heard them live :(
james
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Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 19:02:17 -0600
From: timethief@juno.com (Luis B. Abcede)
Subject: Clarification Re: Quality of Live in Oslo?
It was orignally pressed on vinyl ... they sold or gave it away during
later gigs (at least from what I've read). My copy is a 1st generation
dub from the original vinyl.
Yes, Erik, you are correct.
Enjoy,
Luis
timethief@juno.com
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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 08:50:11 -0500 (EST)
From: Allan de Leon
Subject: Indie/ Rarities Auction
Kindly email me your bids privately and not on the list.
All records listed are in excellent condition. Trades are welcome
Auction ends on: Feb. 28, 1998
Send your bids to: ca812@torfree.net
LP's & 12"s
***************
Pastels - truck train tractor (1987)
Wedding Present - bizarro (1989)
Roller Skate Skinny - trophy 10" (kevin shields brother & company)
American Analog Set - the fun of watching fireworks
I love the Smell of Napalm - ( A Creation Records Compilation - 1986)
* very first Creation compilation
Cure - Entreat (live from Wembley Arena - promo)
CD's
**********
Pale Fountains - from across the kitchen table
Flying Saucer Attack - live
Lenola - last suicide mile
Henry's Dress - bust em green
Pale Saints - slow buildings
Ladybug Transistor - marlborough farms
Flowchart - tenjira ep
VARIOUS
*********
Tomorrow Hits Today - A Summershine Compilation
*includes Sugargliders, Springfields, Velocity Girl. etc
Little Darla Treat For You Vol. 6 - A Darla Records Compilation
*includes Windy & Carl, Flowchart, American Analog Set
Heaven & Hell Vol. 1 - A tribute to Velvet Underground
* includes Ride, Chapterhouse, Wedding Present, etc
* cassette only
7" singles
***************
Stereolab - iron man/ incredible he woman (red vinyl U.K.)
Maylove - the word big but
Flowchart -accoustic ambience
Flowchart/Mall - split
Heartworms - everything goes as planned
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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 09:38:32 -0600
From: Agent Cooper
Subject: slowdive (the song) now on my page
Slowdive.MP3 is on my page, right around 5MB. Next is Avalyn 1.
http://www.flash.net/~agentc/slowdive.html
Laters!
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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 09:39:01 -0600 (CST)
From: "..." <1cc5776@unixstew.tstc.edu>
Subject: bootleg info...
here it is: http://www.musicstack.com
or contact the man himself: Dave Stack: dstack@netcom.com
>
> Anyway, the site used to be found at:
> http://columbia.digiweb.com/dstack/music/slowdive/
>
> But it doesn't seem to be there anymore. Anyone with a current address?
>
> //Erik
>
>
cory
1cc5776@unixstew.tstc.edu
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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 11:35:45 -0500
From: Chris Kushmider
Subject: Re: Clarification Re: Quality of Live in Oslo?
Luis B. Abcede wrote:
>
> It was orignally pressed on vinyl ... they sold or gave it away during
> later gigs (at least from what I've read). My copy is a 1st generation
> dub from the original vinyl.
>
> Yes, Erik, you are correct.
i thought it was an official tour cassette...
chris
--
"... but sometimes I'd feel more fulfilled
making Christmas cards for the mentally ill."
--Morrissey
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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 10:33:08 -0600 (CST)
From: "..." <1cc5776@unixstew.tstc.edu>
Subject: slowdive covers who?
since this is kind of on the subject...
just curious to see a list of what
songs by slowdive are covers, and who are the original artists?
> > maybe they left golden hair off because it's a cover. Less hassle and
> > cost. As for avalyn II, well it's just slightly different from avalyn I -
> > longer instrumental version, right? Again, one less track to hassle with.
>
> You're probably right - though they did go through all the hassle when
> it came to "Some Velvet Morning" (ie. on the Volume _and_ US "Souvlaki"
> discs). In any case, this sounds like the most probable explanation to
> why they weren't included to me.
>
> //Erik
>
>
cory
1cc5776@unixstew.tstc.edu
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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 10:56:41 -0600 (CST)
From: "..." <1cc5776@unixstew.tstc.edu>
lush list ,
slowdive list ,
swervedriver list
Subject: Shoe Pie auction...
I've decided to auction off my copy of Shoe Pie. Please send all bids to
my personal email address and I'll notify all bidders of the status as
it progresses and make the final call in a week or so.
cory
1cc5776@unixstew.tstc.edu
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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 11:16:48 +0100
From: Kevin Wood
Subject: San Fran. show tomorrow night 2/17
Solarium - it's the band I'm in, and we're playing at the Cocodrie Tuesday
night (2/17). If you're into Mogwai, MBV, Slowdive, Stereolab type stuff
then you might like us but no guarantees ;) We've got a 7" single coming
out on Drive In Records but this is our first real gig, so come and through
tomatoes at us or whatever - it's cool as long as you go. What the hell
else are you doing on a Tuesday night anyway?
The Cocodrie is on Kearney at Broadway in rainy San Francisco....
I am pretty sure we are going on around 10:30-11:00 (3rd of 4 bands...)
if you do come to check us out, be sure to tell the doorman who you came to
see :)
thanks!
Kevin
Kevin Wood
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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 11:46:38 -0800 (PST)
From: Gage Crump
Subject: Re: covers by slowdive
i was at the new SF main public library on valentine's day and i happened
to come across Psychedelic Sundae by Vanilla Fudge ( was Sonny Bono in
this band?). anyway, my point is that there was a song on it called "Some
Velvet Morning". is this just a coincidence or did Slowdive cover Vanilla
Fudge? (i've actually never heard either song, i got my souvlaki copy in
europe). i found a record on the street curb a couple of months ago, "The
Beat Goes On" by Vanilla Fudge and it is very strange. sampling of news
bits of presidents being assisnated, synthesizer blisteringly spurting out
a rendition of Fur Elise, all interlaced with weird sound and especially
Sonny Bono singing The Beat Goes On , a very disjointed fucked-up thing,
though not all that great musically, i found it extremely interesting. (of
course, Golden Hair is a syd barrett cover for those who didn't know)
-gage
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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 15:00:38 -0500
From: MCINTYRE@pa.msu.edu
Subject: Re: covers by slowdive
>From: Gage Crump
>i was at the new SF main public library on valentine's day and i happened
>to come across Psychedelic Sundae by Vanilla Fudge ( was Sonny Bono in
>this band?). anyway, my point is that there was a song on it called "Some
>Velvet Morning". is this just a coincidence or did Slowdive cover Vanilla
>Fudge?
No, Sonny Bono was not in Vanilla Fudge. "Some Velvet Morning" was
originally done by its writer, Lee Hazelwood, and Nancy Sinatra. It's
possible Slowdive were unaware of the Vanilla Fudge version as it was
an album track while the Hazelwood/Sinatra version was a single that
charted back in the sixties.
John McIntyre
Physics - Astronomy Domine Dept
Michigan State University
mcintyre@pa.msu.edu
P.S. I love how Vanilla Fudge sings the line "Some velvet morning when
I'm straight." You just know that day will be a long time coming. (-8
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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 13:24:27 PST
From: "patrick lacharité"
Subject: ..??"mojave 3"
I'm just wondering,
Is there someone who's got the entire version of "tryin' to
reach you" from Mojave 3, originally found on the Nowhere
"soundtrack" by GreGG Araki??
...I'd also like to have some information about the
"inexisting" band Lush!!! Only, if you know something..........
If there's anything else to say about any other band that sounds
like that.., just write me back!!!
Patrick.
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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 22:37:20 +0100
From: Erik Soderstrom
Subject: Re: Clarification Re: Quality of Live in Oslo?
At 11:35 1998-02-16 -0500, Chris Kushmider wrote:
> Luis B. Abcede wrote:
>>
>> It was orignally pressed on vinyl ... they sold or gave it away during
>> later gigs (at least from what I've read). My copy is a 1st generation
>> dub from the original vinyl.
>>
>> Yes, Erik, you are correct.
>
> i thought it was an official tour cassette...
Yes it was. That was what Luis was trying to say above, even though
you could interpret it as if he says they sold/gave away vinyl copies.
The word "tapes" should replace the second "it".
//Erik
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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 22:49:25 +0100
From: Erik Soderstrom
owner-low@uvol.com
Subject: Re: San Fran. show tomorrow night 2/17
At 11:16 1998-02-16 +0100, Kevin Wood wrote:
> Solarium - it's the band I'm in, and we're playing at the Cocodrie Tuesday
> night (2/17). If you're into Mogwai, MBV, Slowdive, Stereolab type stuff
> then you might like us but no guarantees ;) We've got a 7" single coming
> out on Drive In Records but this is our first real gig, so come and through
> tomatoes at us or whatever - it's cool as long as you go. What the hell
> else are you doing on a Tuesday night anyway?
Cool - Drive In's got good taste, which leads me to believe I'd like
Solarium (even though the "references" above should be enough). ;)
But how can a simple Swede get to hear your band? A homepage with
soundclips somewhere?
//Erik
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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 19:36:48 -0800
From: Mitch Bacigalupi
Subject: Re: Live Slowdive
>I did the MP3 encoding of Oslo, and you're quite welcome. The pops and
>clicks are from my cassette. However, the original recording was on
>vinyl. I tried to reduce hiss, popping and other imperfections as much
>as possible, but any more noise reduction would compensate some of the
>high frequencies. While I was doing it, I discovered the recording
>sounded really dull --- gotta compromise a little.
>
>I originally did this little project, because someone wanted to press a
>CD and sell it for their own personal gain. Why pay when someone could
>distribute it for free? I'd do more, but the only other live recordings
>I have are on video. I don't have access to a Hi-Fi VCR, so
>unfortunately, that's it for now. Anyhow, in terms of quality, this is
>the best of what I have.
>
>Thanks for listening,
>Luis
>timethief@juno.com
Hey...
Where can I find this?????
Thanks,
-Mitch
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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 08:01:20 -0800
From: "Tim Warner"
Subject: Re: Gary Clark (was: RE: Quality of Live in Oslo?)
Erik, I"ve seen this album at my local music store (well, it's not exactly
local, but you know what I mean). Transister's. Does it have vocals? I
was thinking of buying it at one time...
Does it sound like the echoey slowdive...more like Just for a Day or
Souvlaki?
Thanks for the info!
Tim
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> From: Erik Soderstrom
> To: avalyn@lysator.liu.se
> Subject: Gary Clark (was: RE: Quality of Live in Oslo?)
> Date: 15 February 1998 14:37
>
> At 15:49 1998-02-15 -0600, travis salisbury wrote:
>
> > What do think of Slowdive live? Pretty amazing stuff, huh? It's so
powerful
> > and the guitars sound incredible!:)
>
> Talking about the guitars... does anyone but me see the similarities
between
> Gary Clark (Danny Wilson, King L, Transister) and Neil Halstead? When it
> comes to the material they write, the way they play the guitar and the
sound
> they create with it? I just got Transister's s/t album to review, and the
> gorgeous end track "Flow" is just as ingenious as something Neil would
> have done.
>
> //Erik
>
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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 23:33:02 -0800
From: Richard Henson
Subject: Re: Gary Clark (was: RE: Quality of Live in Oslo?)
I work at a record store and i got the chance to listen to that
(transistor) today and well, it doesn't sound anything like slowdive. The
music does sound somewhat comprable to Mojave 3, but there aren't any
effects pedals or anything like that (well, there are, they just aren't
very prominant). But don't let this turn you off, it's not that bad a
record, it's just this might be somewhat misleading saying that they sound
like slowdive. I think the similariies are negligible.
richard
At 08:01 AM 2/16/98 -0800, Tim Warner wrote:
>Erik, I"ve seen this album at my local music store (well, it's not exactly
>local, but you know what I mean). Transister's. Does it have vocals? I
>was thinking of buying it at one time...
>
>Does it sound like the echoey slowdive...more like Just for a Day or
>Souvlaki?
>
>Thanks for the info!
>
>Tim
>
>----------
>> From: Erik Soderstrom
>> To: avalyn@lysator.liu.se
>> Subject: Gary Clark (was: RE: Quality of Live in Oslo?)
>> Date: 15 February 1998 14:37
>>
>> At 15:49 1998-02-15 -0600, travis salisbury wrote:
similarities
>between
>> Gary Clark (Danny Wilson, King L, Transister) and Neil Halstead? When it
>> comes to the material they write, the way they play the guitar and the
>sound
>> they create with it? I just got Transister's s/t album to review, and the
>
>> gorgeous end track "Flow" is just as ingenious as something Neil would
>> have done.
>>
>> //Erik
>>
>
>
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Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 01:54:02 -0800
From: "willfred"
Subject: re: Grimble Grumble, etc.
There is a chance that Grimble Grumble may tour with Windy and Carl in
April sometime, or at least for a few dates. If I find out any particulars,
I'll post them.
On another subject, I got my cassette version of Oslo when I saw
Slowdive at the Cabaret Metro in Chicago.
The live mix at the Chicago show had the guitars much more prominently
featured with the vocals a bit more buried, which is the opposite of Oslo.
Or, at least to my ears.
Lastly, check out a band called Discolor out of Germany. Shoegaze
guitars mixed with faint whisps of psychedelia and krautrock and whispery
vocals ( male ).
BF2
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Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 09:59:14 +0000
From: "wade@tapehouse.com"
Subject: Re: looking for a copy of blueday.
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Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 21:26:45 +0100
From: Erik Soderstrom
Subject: Re: Gary Clark (was: RE: Quality of Live in Oslo?)
At 08:01 1998-02-16 -0800, Tim Warner wrote:
>> Talking about the guitars... does anyone but me see the similarities
>> between Gary Clark (Danny Wilson, King L, Transister) and Neil Halstead?
>> When it comes to the material they write, the way they play the guitar and
>> the sound they create with it? I just got Transister's s/t album to
review,
>> and the gorgeous end track "Flow" is just as ingenious as something Neil
>> would have done.
>
> Erik, I"ve seen this album at my local music store (well, it's not exactly
> local, but you know what I mean). Transister's. Does it have vocals? I
> was thinking of buying it at one time... Does it sound like the echoey
> slowdive...more like Just for a Day or Souvlaki?
He pretty much covers it all on the album. Everything from deep and
dark to happy and jangly - single dreamy to massive walls.
Music Boulevard has sound clips (though unfortunately not "Flow"):
http://www.musicblvd.com/cgi-bin/tw/2581877887743630_43_451123
Tower Records lists it in the "available RealAudio files", but I
can't get it to work - maybe you'll have better luck?:
http://www.towerrecords.com/prd.i/pgen/tower/KPTKN549V6S12JHU000GQRJQG58LENX
S/album.html;t=;d=;album=1205390
The sad part with these (and most of them on the net) clips is that they
concentrate too much on the choruses of each song. Oh well...
The whole "hit song" Look Who's Perfect Now can be found here:
http://raft.vmg.co.uk/pieces/preview/rams/lookwho.ram
There's also a video clip available at:
http://www.real.com/showcase/music/interscope/index.html
//Erik
P.S. Once again - just to make sure - Transister is *not* like Slowdive.
They're more like Sneaker Pimps mixed with Garbage. D.S.
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Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 21:29:34 +0100
From: Erik Soderstrom
Subject: Re: Gary Clark (was: RE: Quality of Live in Oslo?)
At 23:33 1998-02-16 -0800, Richard Henson wrote:
> I work at a record store and i got the chance to listen to that
> (transistor) today and well, it doesn't sound anything like slowdive. The
> music does sound somewhat comprable to Mojave 3, but there aren't any
> effects pedals or anything like that (well, there are, they just aren't
> very prominant). But don't let this turn you off, it's not that bad a
> record, it's just this might be somewhat misleading saying that they sound
> like slowdive. I think the similariies are negligible.
Well, I never said it sounded like Slowdive. I said that Clark and Neil
Halstead write and play in a similar manner, and that is far away from
saying Trasister = Slowdive.
But you must be kidding when you say that there aren't any effects pedals
on the Transister album... right?
//Erik
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