The Avalyn Digest
Vol.98 #031
March 3rd, 1998
http://www.lysator.liu.se/~chief/avalyn.html
Today's Topics:
Re: blind mr. jones (wasRe: Drop Nineteens)
Re: Drop Nineteens
Mojave3 stuff...
Re: Blind Mr. Jones
Re: Drop Nineteens
Re: Blind Mr. Jones
Re: Blind Mr. Jones
Re: Drop Nineteens
Planet was Re: Drop Nineteens
Re: Drop Nineteens
Re: Mojave3 stuff...
Re: Mojave3 stuff...
The Autumns
Re: Drop Nineteens
Re: Drop Nineteens
Re: Drop Nineteens
Blue shift signal
Planet, I'm Gone/Kasperhauser
Re: Blue shift signal
auction
Re: Blue shift signal
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Date: Fri, 27 Feb 1998 23:08:08 -0500
From: "avalyn1"
Subject: Re: blind mr. jones (wasRe: Drop Nineteens)
I hate it! That flute kept driving me nuts. Oh what could have been.
-----Original Message-----
From: butterfly mcqueen
Date: Friday, February 27, 1998 9:40 PM
Subject: blind mr. jones (wasRe: Drop Nineteens)
>>Anyone like BLIND MR JONES?
>>
>>Some of their early stuff is very good
>
>oh totally. their album _Stereo musicale_ is totally ride meets slowdive.
>with flute. highly recommended (and oop).
>
>; ed
>
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Date: Fri, 27 Feb 1998 21:19:03 -0800
From: mmoreno@ucla.edu (JJ Moreno)
Subject: Re: Drop Nineteens
At 06:51 PM 2/27/98 -0700, avalyn@lysator.liu.se wrote:
>What a disappointment this band was. They were supposed to be the American
>answer to Slowdive. I heard one of their EP's and thought "wow this is
>great" Bought their first album and said "what the hell happened" A mystery
>to me.
I bought their "Your Aqarium" ep, "Delaware" album, and saw them live... not
once did they ever remind me of Slowdive. Instead they sounded much closer
to some superficial combo of Sonic Youth/MBV/Pixies. The fact that people
are comparing them to slowie leaves me very intrigued; I must have a listen
for myself because the stuff I got isn't close.
If you want to hear a much better American answer to Slowdive then check out
Planet Im Gone or for that matter even Kasperhauser's stuff on their
websites. I'd say their dreamy melodies and reverbed guitars put the Drop
Nineteens to shame.
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Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 00:15:52 -0500
From: Steve Coppolo
Subject: Mojave3 stuff...
>
> I also think that Mojave 3 is an excellent band, albeit it`s not Slowdive
> but
> you can`t keep on doing the same thing forever even though I`m sure I
> would
> have liked it just as much.
I also think they're excellent. Ask Me Tomorrow is brilliant, and
absolutely beautiful. To tell you the truth, I'd rank it as my second
favorite from Goswell/Hallstead, right behind Souvlaki. Though I think
that simply rehashing classics would be a waste of their huge talent. I
also love Rachel's vocals, and would not mind a bit if she sung (lead or
backups) in every song. I am eagerly awaiting the new album, hoping that
it'll be as great as Ask Me Tomorrow.
Cheers! l8r,
-Steve
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Date: Fri, 27 Feb 1998 21:34:17 -0800
From: mmoreno@ucla.edu (JJ Moreno)
Subject: Re: Blind Mr. Jones
At 07:07 PM 2/27/98 -0800, avalyn@lysator.liu.se wrote:
>>Anyone like BLIND MR JONES?
>>
>>Some of their early stuff is very good
>
>
>I loved Blind Mr. Jones! (If people didn't know, one of their early
>singles was produced by our very own Neil!)
On Their first EP "eyes wide", it reads "special thanks to Neil Halstead"
but it says engineered and produced by Chris Hufford. Was this guy involved
w/ "Just for a day" or something? I can't tell cause I don't have a copy.
the four tracks on here are "over my head", "eyes wide", "going on cold",
and "henna and swayed". I think some of these are also on the "stereo
musicale" album. These guys early stuff definitely pass the slowie test.
>
>The first album "Stereo Musicale" was very, very good, but the second album
>"tatooine" wasn't too great.
>
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Date: Fri, 27 Feb 1998 22:01:54 -0800
From: voltron
Subject: Re: Drop Nineteens
JJ Moreno wrote:
>
> At 06:51 PM 2/27/98 -0700, avalyn@lysator.liu.se wrote:
> >What a disappointment this band was. They were supposed to be the American
> >answer to Slowdive. I heard one of their EP's and thought "wow this is
> >great" Bought their first album and said "what the hell happened" A mystery
> >to me.
>
> I bought their "Your Aqarium" ep, "Delaware" album, and saw them live... not
> once did they ever remind me of Slowdive. Instead they sounded much closer
> to some superficial combo of Sonic Youth/MBV/Pixies. The fact that people
> are comparing them to slowie leaves me very intrigued; I must have a listen
> for myself because the stuff I got isn't close.
>
> If you want to hear a much better American answer to Slowdive then check out
> Planet Im Gone or for that matter even Kasperhauser's stuff on their
> websites. I'd say their dreamy melodies and reverbed guitars put the Drop
> Nineteens to shame.
Yes I must say I am a Planet I'm Gone fan although there stuff is not
readily available. Where can we see Kasperhauser's website?
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Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 06:08:07 EST
From: ALTONBARNS
Subject: Re: Blind Mr. Jones
In a message dated 28/02/98 03:18:05 GMT, you write:
<< Blind Mr. Jones! >>
http://130.244.196.38/~w-44385/blind_mr_jones/index.html
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Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 06:10:07 EST
From: ALTONBARNS
Subject: Re: Blind Mr. Jones
In a message dated 28/02/98 05:53:06 GMT, you write:
<< the four tracks on here are "over my head", "eyes wide", "going on cold",
and "henna and swayed". I think some of these are also on the "stereo
musicale" album. These guys early stuff definitely pass the slowie test. >>
Going on cold and Henna and Swayed are different versions??? Without flute???
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Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 10:57:58 -0500 (EST)
From: Claire De Leon!
Subject: Re: Drop Nineteens
> What a disappointment this band was. They were supposed to be the American
> answer to Slowdive. I heard one of their EP's and thought "wow this is
> great" Bought their first album and said "what the hell happened" A mystery
> to me.
>
I think the reason they were "supposed to be the American answer to
Slowdive" is precisely because of these demos. Pure Slowdive action - WAY
different from their albums!!
Daniel
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Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 10:59:51 -0600
From: timethief@juno.com (Luis B. Abcede)
Subject: Planet was Re: Drop Nineteens
It's to my understanding that the band had already split up. I remember
one of the ex-band members posting to the list some time last year. From
what I remember, the guy had a few cassettes of the first album, but I
think those are probably long gone by now.
I've never heard anything else from them other than the audio clips that
I heard at their website. I must admit it's pretty catchy though.
Good morning,
Luis
timethief@juno.com
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Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 14:28:44 -0500 (EST)
From: mike p
Subject: Re: Drop Nineteens
> websites. I'd say their dreamy melodies and reverbed guitars put the Drop
> Nineteens to shame.
oh, bite yr tounge there buddy. you just haven't heard the pre-delaware
drop 19's.
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Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 01:21:10 EST
From: Despair603
Subject: Re: Mojave3 stuff...
In a message dated 98-02-28 00:38:52 EST, scoppolo@CENTER.COLGATE.EDU writes:
<< I am eagerly awaiting the new album, hoping that
it'll be as great as Ask Me Tomorrow. >>
When does the new record come out? Does anybody know? It`s possible that it
was already mentioned so I apologize If I missed that post.
thanks
Craig
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Date: Sun, 01 Mar 1998 13:53:53 +0100
From: Erik Soderstrom
Subject: Re: Mojave3 stuff...
>> I am eagerly awaiting the new album, hoping that
>> it'll be as great as Ask Me Tomorrow.
>
> When does the new record come out? Does anybody know? It`s possible that
> it was already mentioned so I apologize If I missed that post.
No, nothing has been decided yet. 4AD on one hand have said "late
1998" and Mojave 3 on the other are discussing with them about
doing it earlier.
//Erik
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Date: Sun, 01 Mar 1998 13:49:29 -0500
From: jvanslem
Subject: The Autumns
.just a quick note.
I saw the Autumns live a few nights ago. They put on an awesome,
awesome show. As posted sometime before, the Autumns played their
rendition of "Blue Skied an' clear". They faded right into it, the
second song in the set. The singer started singing "You say
Love............and it sounds so sweet" It was mega-dreamy. Everyone
must see them live.
justin
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Date: Sun, 01 Mar 1998 22:22:53 -0800
From: JJ Moreno
Subject: Re: Drop Nineteens
At 10:01 PM 2/27/98 -0800, you wrote:
>
>is not
>readily available. Where can we see Kasperhauser's website?
>
http://home.fuse.net/kasperhauser/index.html
They have a few samples up. They lean a bit towards the swervedriver side
of things but those reverbed guitars are still there.
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Date: Mon, 02 Mar 1998 09:44:13 +0100
From: "Kurt.Verweire"
Subject: Re: Drop Nineteens
Hi,
Which EPs from Drop Nineteens are most similar to that Slowdive sound.
As I have heard, the album isn't worth buying, but which EPs are
recommended???
Kurt
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Date: Mon, 02 Mar 1998 14:17:05 -0700
From: aaron
Subject: Re: Drop Nineteens
Kurt.Verweire wrote:
>
> Hi,
> Which EPs from Drop Nineteens are most similar to that Slowdive sound.
> As I have heard, the album isn't worth buying, but which EPs are
> recommended???
don't believe everything that you read. i love their first album, which
happens to be the one everyone is saying isn't worth buying. i've never
heard anyone recommend their second album but maybe i should give it a
shot after all.
aaron
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Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 17:32:06 +0000
From: "wade@tapehouse.com"
Subject: Blue shift signal
I found the Blueshift signal waterside e.p. over the weekend and was
a bit disappointed with it. I heard good stuff about them, but it's
more like the Ocean Blue trying to be dreampop.... Seems like there
are these dreampop bands that can't even write a decent hook or song.
Anyone know of some worth checking out, like Colfax abbey... Their
full length album is amazing....
Why is it that bands like Closedown, and Drop Nineteens release
awesome demos but can't release great stuff on full length cds!!
URGH!!!!
wade
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Date: Mon, 02 Mar 1998 18:40:32 -0500
From: Andy McMillan
Subject: Planet, I'm Gone/Kasperhauser
Slowdivers,
Hello. Here once again is the story on these two bands. P.I.G. broke up
back in May of 1996 but our page remains up due to a server error. (PIG
page--http://www.concentric.net/~Imgone/Index.shtml). Contrary to what
it says on the page, no CD was ever produced. However, a very small
number of our 5 song studio demo cassettes (30 minutes of music) remain
and can be ordered through me. All I ask is either 5 bucks to cover
materials and postage, or even better, a tape trade of some sort. (Our
very own Kurt V. from Belgium traded me a cassette of his band "Sleeve"
a couple of months ago. It is very nice stuff and I highly reccomend
everyone sending him mail and trying to get one.)
As for Kasperhauser, they are essentially the same band without the
rhythm section. They now claim to be "heavier" and more "rockin'." Sure.
Their current page can be found at:
http://home.fuse.net/kasperhauser/index.html
Last I heard, they had changed the name again (to "The Candy
Afterlife") and are now in the process of creating another new web page.
I don't think they have anything out.
Thanks for all the kind words about my old band. Support your local
shoegazer (and those on the list too)! Speaking of that--when does
Viet's (i.e. Sweet Trip's) Darla Bliss Out come out? I got the Junior
Varisty one in the mail today but no Sweet Trip.
thanks again,
Andy McMillan
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Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 00:49:32 +0100
From: Erik Soderstrom
Subject: Re: Blue shift signal
> Anyone know of some worth checking out, like Colfax abbey... Their
> full length album is amazing....
Any chance there's something on the web to listen to with them?
I've looked for info on them and come up with a lot, but no soundclips
or samples anywhere. Or a proper homepage.
Kaspar Hauser was interesting, but like someone said, closer to
Swervedriver than Slowdive. Anyone buy the new Swervedriver
yet by the way? There are a bunch of sound samples on the Rolling
Stone Online site. www.rollingstone.com.
//Erik
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Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 00:13:12 +0100
From: "LOSING TODAY"
Subject: auction
Hello ,
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Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 20:24:16 -0500
From: eddiej7@juno.com (ladies and gentleman we are floating in space)
Subject: Re: Blue shift signal
> closer to
>Swervedriver than Slowdive. Anyone buy the new Swervedriver
>yet by the way?
Yep, i got 99th Dream. It's a great album in my opinion. It's sorta the
style of Mezcal Head, only with some production a la Radiohead.
I'm quite impressed with it.
Blah, i've got to write a review of 99th Dream, and it's due in 2 hours.
Evan
-------------------
Evan
list admin: Vapour Trail (Ride)
list member: Stone Roses, MBV, Catherine Wheel, James, Slowdive,
Adorable, RH Convoy, VIN, The Cure, Excellent (uk-indie)
"don't you hide your love away
you are the crown of creation"-- Andy Bell
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