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Today's Topics:
	 Re: Blue shift signal (sic)
	 Re: Swervies (was Blue shift signal)
	 Kasperhauser
Subject: Re: Blue shift signal (sic)

>I found the Blueshift signal waterside e.p. over the weekend and was 
>a bit disappointed with it.  I heard good stuff about them, but it's 
>more like the Ocean Blue trying to be dreampop.....

well that doesn't sound _so_ bad.  besides, the ocean blue (at least on
their first couple of albums) already had that 'dreampop' sound somewhat.

>Why is it that bands like Closedown, and Drop Nineteens release 
>awesome demos but can't release great stuff on full length cds!!

if you're referring to the closedown full-length 'nearfield' on silent, then
i completely disagree -- i think that album is great.  granted, i think the
demos are amazing as well, but 'nearfield' definitely did not come as a
disappointment after hearing them.

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Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 12:21:16 +0100
From: j.sundstrom@ekuc.se (Jan Sundstrom)
Subject: Re: Swervies (was Blue shift signal)

avalyn@lysator.liu.se,Internet writes:
>From: Erik Soderstrom 

>Kaspar Hauser was interesting, but like someone said, closer to
>Swervedriver than Slowdive. Anyone buy the new Swervedriver
>yet by the way?

I got the promo for almost a year now, a nice girl in the US taped it
for me. ;-)
Wonderful record, shame it's not released in Europe yet (hell knows
when it will).

Jan

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Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 02:09:53 -0600
From: Agent Cooper 
Subject: Kasperhauser Subject: Planet, I'm Gone/Kasperhauser
> Date: Mon, 02 Mar 1998 18:40:32 -0500
> From: Andy McMillan 
> To: avalyn@lysator.liu.se
> 
> Slowdivers,
> 
>         Hello. Here once again is the story on these two bands. P.I.G. broke up
> back in May of 1996 but our page remains up due to a server error. (PIG
> page--http://www.concentric.net/~Imgone/Index.shtml). Contrary to what
> it says on the page, no CD was ever produced. However, a very small
> number of our 5 song studio demo cassettes (30 minutes of music) remain
> and can be ordered through me.

Sheesh - I can't believe there are any left - you people need to get it while
the gettin's good! It'll be the best $5 you'll spend this month!

>         As for Kasperhauser, they are essentially the same band without the
> rhythm section. They now claim to be "heavier" and more "rockin'." Sure.

Heh, I'm with ya Andy. It definitely is more like Swervedriver now (who in my
opinion went to crap after Mezcal Head) - although I won't argue that
Kasperhauser isn't better than mainstream garbage, it certainly doesn't hold a
candle to Planet, I'm Gone.

And since when did "heavier" and "rockin'" become synonymous with "better"?
P.I.G. ruled.

>         Thanks for all the kind words about my old band. Support your local
> shoegazer (and those on the list too)!

Say, there are other Austinites on this list... seems like the closest band to
"shoegazing" we have is 7% Solution and other psychedelic rock types. I have a
drum set, so how's 'bout you send me an e-mail telling me you're ready to
start a real shoegazing group in Austin? Subvert the white-boy blues culture!
(Of course, I don't have a place to practice... but I can lug my kit around in
my hatchback...)

P.S. - I'm putting up "So Tired" (the first b-side from Outside Your Room) on
my site tonight. Get it tomorrow.

http://www.flash.net/~agentc/slowdive.html

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Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:16:27 -0500 (EST)
From: Claire De Leon! 
Subject: Re: Blue shift signal (sic)

> >Why is it that bands like Closedown, and Drop Nineteens release 
> >awesome demos but can't release great stuff on full length cds!!
> 
> if you're referring to the closedown full-length 'nearfield' on silent, then
> i completely disagree -- i think that album is great.  granted, i think the
> demos are amazing as well, but 'nearfield' definitely did not come as a
> disappointment after hearing them.
> 
hear hear!! I think that album is totally brilliant! Except maybe for most
of the ambient pieces, which get on my nerves, but they have their own
appeal too, I suppose. The *song* songs, are tremendous, IMO!

Daniel

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Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 22:39:02 +0100
From: Erik Soderstrom 
Subject: Swervedriver (was: Re: Blue shift signal)

>> Anyone buy the new Swervedriver yet by the way? 
>
> Yep, i got 99th Dream.  It's a great album in my opinion.  It's sorta the
> style of Mezcal Head, only with some production a la Radiohead.   
> I'm quite impressed with it.    

You're not kidding? Damn - if that's the case, _they_ were not kidding
when I interviewed them back in.. umm, may 96! I asked them if the
next album would be a "Mezcal Head" one (my least favourite - which
I told them) or a "Raise", and they laught and said it would be
a Mezcal Head one. I didn't believe them. I'll buy it anyway
though. ;)

 //Erik 

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Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:38:32 -0500 (EST)
From: butterfly mcqueen 
Subject: Re: Blue shift signal (sic)

>>I found the Blueshift signal waterside e.p. over the weekend and was 
>>a bit disappointed with it.  I heard good stuff about them, but it's 
>>more like the Ocean Blue trying to be dreampop.....
>
>well that doesn't sound _so_ bad.  besides, the ocean blue (at least on
>their first couple of albums) already had that 'dreampop' sound somewhat.

but blueshift signal didn't boot their drummer because they found out he was
gay.....

; ed

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Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 22:41:56 +0100
From: Erik Soderstrom 
Subject: Re: Blue shift signal (sic)

>> Why is it that bands like Closedown, and Drop Nineteens release 
>> awesome demos but can't release great stuff on full length cds!!
>
> if you're referring to the closedown full-length 'nearfield' on silent, then
> i completely disagree -- i think that album is great.  granted, i think the
> demos are amazing as well, but 'nearfield' definitely did not come as a
> disappointment after hearing them.

I disagree - the demos are fantastic, but "Nearfield" is a letdown. Not
at all the "they're so close to Slowdive you have to hear it!" I expected.
And I heard Nearfield before the demos (thanks again Aaron!).
But we've been through all this once before on the list...

 //Erik

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Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 22:50:24 +0100
From: Erik Soderstrom 
Subject: Re: Swervies (was Blue shift signal)

>> Anyone buy the new Swervedriver yet by the way?
>
> I got the promo for almost a year now, a nice girl in the US taped it
> for me. ;-) Wonderful record, shame it's not released in Europe yet
> (hell knows when it will).

I don't think it will be - though I talked to one of the guys at
Zero Hour before it was released and he said something about the
Swervies having a deal over here as well. It's available on import
now though (at least in Sweden).

 //Erik

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Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 17:09:11 EST
From: Melochrome 
Subject: Re: Swervedriver (was: Re: Blue shift signal)

actually, 99th dream is much more in the vein of "Ejector Seat Reservation"
than "Mezcal Head". "EJR" was the last Creation release before they got
dropped & it's amazing! 99th Dream is excellent as well. they've gone much
more melodic than "raise" or "mezcal".

they're touring the u.s. in march!

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Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 02:34:13 -0800
From: "Tim Warner" 
Subject: Re: The Autumns

A friend of mine and I were listening to the Autumns one day.  My friend's
a huge Red House Painters fan.
He says, "Listen to the vocals!"  
So, I did.  "OK," I say.  But I wasn't gettin' it.
He says, "Think about the Red House Painters and listen to the vocals."  

Wow...

The music doesn't sound anything like RHP, of course, but the vocals sure
do!

Tim

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> From: jvanslem 
> To: Slowdive list 
> Subject: The Autumns
> Date: 01 March 1998 10:49
> 
> .just a quick note.
>     I saw the Autumns live a few nights ago. They put on an awesome,
> awesome show. As posted sometime before, the Autumns played their
> rendition of  "Blue Skied an' clear". They faded right into it, the
> second song in the set. The singer started singing "You say
> Love............and it sounds so sweet"  It was mega-dreamy. Everyone
> must see them live.
> 
> justin
> 

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Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 15:09:25 +0100
From: Kevin Wood 
Subject: Autumns/Swervedriver 

I'll put in my 2 cents regarding the new Swervedriver....

I love Raise..... the aural propulsion those songs have is incredible

I thought Mezcal Head was ok with a few incredible songs("duress,""last
train...")

Ejector Seat... is more enjoyable than MH in my opinion, but it is a bit
different.  It isnt quite as "driving" and is a lot poppier....but still
really great songwriting...

99th Dream continues in this vein... the songs are a lot lighter(with a
couple of exceptions)....they dont have the "sprawling epic" feel of the
first album....and to be honest, Adam's voice even sounds a bit like Noel
Gallagher on a couple of tracks.  It is still a good album with some great
songs....but not very memorable I'm afraid.  But it definately doesnt
lessen my opinion of Swervedriver...and I cant wait to see them here in San
Francisco on April 1!!!  That is unless it's a big April Fool's joke and
COunting Crows comes out on stage instead or something....

but then again these are my own opinions...take them with a grain of salt...

And about the Autumns....I have never heard their stuff and have actually
only heard about them through this list.....
But apparantly they are coming to San Francisco in April and my band
Solarium has already been tentatively asked to play with them here....so
I'm pretty stoked....

I know it is a bit early, but for all you Bay Area kids, my band Solarium
is slated to play at Bottom of the Hill on March 30th...at 10 pm....we are
playing with Tsui(who I have never heard...apparantly kindof a poppier
Sonic Youth) and Juniper(who are a great indiepop band...seriously they put
on a great live show....).....so mark your calanders!!


>actually, 99th dream is much more in the vein of "Ejector Seat Reservation"
>than "Mezcal Head". "EJR" was the last Creation release before they got
>dropped & it's amazing! 99th Dream is excellent as well. they've gone much
>more melodic than "raise" or "mezcal".
>
>they're touring the u.s. in march!

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Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 18:31:24 -0500
From: ndns@mindspring.com
Subject: I'm lucky

All this talk about Swervedriver is great! I'll see them Sat. night in
Atlanta! I like the new album and I love the old stuff, so I'm hoping for a
good mixture at the show. Son of a Mustang Ford is the shit!

Mark     ndns@mindspring.com

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Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 19:03:06 -0800 (PST)
From: Gage Crump 
Subject: Re: Autumns/Swervedriver 


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Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 19:06:54 -0800 (PST)
From: Gage Crump 
Subject: Re: Autumns/Swervedriver 

hey, where is Swervedriver playing in SF? to add the swervedriver
opinions, i think "Raise" and the early e.p.'s are incredible. "Mezcal
Head" has a lot of great songs as well: duress, last train, and never lose
that feeling (which was originally a single so i guess this doesn't
count). ejector seat reservation was sort of a disappointment, though i
haven't listened to it much and maybe it'll grow on me if i ever listen to
it again.  but I'd love to see them again! -gage

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Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 23:29:48 EST
From: Catchbreez 
Subject: Re: The Autumns

better than than the red house painters 
not as stuck up
and more energy 
lovely band
very nice fellows

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Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 22:42:46 -0600 (CST)
From: James W Weber 
Subject: Re: The Autumns

better than the red house painters?  didn't think i'd ever hear of a band
being that.  heh.

james

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Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 23:50:08 EST
From: Catchbreez 
Subject: Re: The Autumns

lead singer of the rhp is an asshole
stuck up
i like their music
but he thinks is the shite

the autumns were very down to earth
he was not

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Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 23:23:22 -0600 (CST)
From: James W Weber 
Subject: Re: The Autumns

he's not really stuck up...i've met him twice...just an average guy...i
jsut think that ppl place to much stock in what the artists are like and
dont just listen to the music.  hes an incredibel song writer, and wheter
or not hes a good person doesn't really enter into my judgement.

james

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Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 00:26:04 -0500
From: jvanslem 
Subject: Re: The Autumns

Tim Warner wrote:

> A friend of mine and I were listening to the Autumns one day.  My friend's
> a huge Red House Painters fan.
> He says, "Listen to the vocals!"
> So, I did.  "OK," I say.  But I wasn't gettin' it.
> He says, "Think about the Red House Painters and listen to the vocals."
>
> Wow...
>
> The music doesn't sound anything like RHP, of course, but the vocals sure
> do!
>
> Tim
>


I totally hear you on this one.......I've thought the same thing before.

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Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 13:15:03 EST
From: Lull45 
Subject: Re: The Autumns

<.just a quick note.
    I saw the Autumns live a few nights ago. They put on an awesome,
awesome show. As posted sometime before, the Autumns played their
rendition of  "Blue Skied an' clear". They faded right into it, the
second song in the set. The singer started singing "You say
Love............and it sounds so sweet"  It was mega-dreamy. Everyone
must see them live.

justin>

I would have to agree that they are an amazing band and that they put on a
really amazing show, you guys need to check them out... very good mix of
Slowdive/Cocteau nice guys too...so if you know about them playing a show
where you can see them, then take advantage and do it you'll love it...As for
their rendition of Blue Skied an' Clear Thats a new song that they've added to
their list, I would love to see them play that song...

Cheers
George* L u l l 4 5 *

Ps get their album " The Angel Pool"
"rain is gonna come down hard...and I want someone to hold"
                                                                         -
Matt (The Autumns)

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Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 20:51:21 +0100
From: Erik Soderstrom 
Subject: Re: Autumns/Swervedriver 

At 19:06 1998-03-03 -0800, Gage Crump wrote:
>hey, where is Swervedriver playing in SF?

April 1st (at Slim's) according to Ajay's Swervedriver site:
http://www.odc.net/~ssharma/swerve/main.shtml

> to add the swervedriver opinions, i think "Raise" and the early e.p.'s are 
> incredible.

I definitely agree. They really shook me up because I first heard Raise
because of the Slowdive EP misprint thingie, and thought "This is NOT
Slowdive" - had no clue to what it was on the disc, so I wrote down
some lyrics from a song and sent them to a friend who identified the
song and the band. ;)

> "Mezcal Head" has a lot of great songs as well: duress, last train, and
> never lose that feeling (which was originally a single so i guess this
> doesn't count).

It still is my least favourite Swervedriver album - don't know why,
but I guess I was expecting a "Raise II" - and that wasn't it.

> ejector seat reservation was sort of a disappointment, though i
> haven't listened to it much and maybe it'll grow on me if i ever
> listen to it again.  but I'd love to see them again! -gage

Oh, I was sold when I first heard it! Bring Me The Head of the
Fortune Teller is just ... well, amazing! Son of Jaguar E's
also one of my all-time favourites.

 //Erik - (listening to 99th Dream right now -got it in the mail today!)

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Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 15:18:32 -0500 (EST)
From: mike p 
Subject: Re: Autumns/Swervedriver 

> Oh, I was sold when I first heard it! Bring Me The Head of the
> Fortune Teller is just ... well, amazing! Son of Jaguar E's
> also one of my all-time favourites.

does anyone else think "the other jesus" is the best song swervedriver
ever did? just curious.. going to see them in a few days!!!


mike

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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 01:18:09 EST
From: Catchbreez 
Subject: Re: The Autumns

yes they tack blue skied an clear onto the end of juniper hill i believe they
were nice
got some cool promo stuff from them in the way of posters and stickers

they also did
garlands by the cocteau twins

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Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:42:10 -0800
From: "Tim Warner" 
Subject: Re: The Autumns

I have Angel Pool.  Is the EP any good?

Tim

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> From: Catchbreez 
> To: avalyn@lysator.liu.se
> Subject: Re: The Autumns
> Date: 04 March 1998 22:18
> 
> yes they tack blue skied an clear onto the end of juniper hill i believe
they
> were nice
> got some cool promo stuff from them in the way of posters and stickers
> 
> they also did
> garlands by the cocteau twins
> 

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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 01:44:40 EST
From: Catchbreez 
Subject: Re: The Autumns

yes the ep is great
4 songs
first song is like the agel pool 
second like a cross between REM's sidewinder sleeps tonite and the smiths
thirid like angel pool meets swervedriver or ep slowdive stuff like the song
slowdive
fourth is just plan beautiful


steve

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Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 18:15:36 +0200
From: Siim Kalder 
Subject: do not pay attention to this letter

sorry, this is just a test.

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