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Today's Topics:
	 sxsw. excerpt.
	 Re: Sixteen DeSucks
	 Re: sxsw. excerpt.
	 Re: Mojave 3 @ SXSW - a brief review
	 mojave 3
	 mojave 3 eps and the rest of my story
	 Re: mojave 3
	 Re: Mojave 3 @ SXSW - a brief review
	 Re: Sixteen DeSucks
	 Anakin
	 special request to anyone who went to SXSW
	 Re: Sixteen DeSucks
	 Austin sucks
	 In Mind (non-remix) & Moussaka Chaos MP3s are up
	 austin
	 Re: austin
	 Re: Anakin

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Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 16:06:05 -0600 (CST)
From: son of dodge dart 
Subject: sxsw. excerpt.

i really don't feel like writing much more; this is an excerpt from a
bigass review i wrote earlier today of all of what i saw during the
festival (if you aren't on droneon or mbv i can mail it to you if you're
interested for some reason. :) ) i had fun at this show but as is mentioned
below...after bardo pond mojave 3 was nice but it just wasn't on the same
level. and yeah, the whole sxsw scenester bit sucks unless you know how
or/and are willing to work it, then you can meet neat people and have a lot
of fun while minimizing the bullshit. i didn't *actively* try to schmooze
and all that and still ended up meeting some cool people and coming home
with free shit. not to mention free beer :) and enough in my system last
night to ask neil pretty much point-blank why they changed their sound
(while trying not to drool.) oops. :) he did mention that they came for
sxsw looking for a licensing deal and that a couple of ppl were in the
audience for that - i hope they found one, there's been some real success
stories this year in terms of that.

and i'll 'metoo' and say that most of the austin bliss whatever scene sucks
(what a great word today.) those 16D/chronicle stories were fucking
hilarious.


-
saturday night - after bardo pond the night before...well, saturday was
disappointing. mojave 3 were tight and they played their country-fried
melancholia well, but i couldn't get all that into it given they used to be
SLOWDIVE hello. a friend (hellooo) was going to feed me dollars to yell out
slowdive song titles at them but i couldn't find him at the time. i must
say, though, neil and rachel are absolutely beautiful :) and it was a joy
to see both of them getting so involved in their music on stage, even if
it's not, you know, slowdive anymore. then his name is alive came on and am
i glad i did not pay for it because they butchered the songs i recognized
('is this the way the tigers do' or whatever, and another(?) song from
_home is in your head._) the crowd was into it for some strange reason ;)
but after three songs we decided to go outside and leave them to their
mediocre butchering. the two singers had good vox, but that could not
overcome the...bleh. i felt like i was watching some crappy austin
blues/soul/funk/whatever band, not the hnia that's thoroughly fucked with
my head at home. *shrug* high llamas came on after that (after taking
forever to set up), and they were nice and easy shampoo listening and very,
very tight as a band, but, well...banjo. hippie crack banjo doesn't really
do it for me.

--
btw, i'm not trying to be negative in the above, i *was* grooving to mojave
for the most part. though i stand by my trashing of hnia. :)
joanna

joroses@mail.utexas.edu

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Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 16:21:19 -0600
From: erik 
Subject: Re: Sixteen DeSucks

That is full of shit.  I understand that you are entitled to your opinion,
but I have known Sixteen Deluxe for four years and I can not think of a
better band full of sincere, hard-working, and friendly people that could
make it in the big time.  Comments like yours are unfair and unsound.
Whatever Sixteen Deluxe does will always have some value to me (whether it's
country, noise, or bubblegum) because they are a true example of what a band
should be. If you want to be shallow enough just to say that they are
blatantly ripping off the Flaming Lips and classic rock, then so be it.
Nothing is one hundred percent original except for the feeling.

> John Roseborough wrote:
>> Really, it's gotten better in the past few years. With bands like 7%
>> Solution, Furry Things, Sixteen Deluxe, Kitty, etc.. this town is
>> starting to have a nice "blissful noise" scene and a crowd that
>> appreciates it.
>
> 
>
> Uhm, no, see, Kitty never plays anymore, and as for 16 De-Sux, well,
> they're definitely part of the problem.
>
> To quote from the "Austin Chronicle Short Story Rejects" page, which
> everyone should visit at http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Parthenon/9226/
> from "Moszilla":
>
>            A group of cookie-cut scruffy twenty-somethings
>            lean into their microphones, "Hi, we're the band
>            Sixteen Deluxe! We're the most innovative band in
>            the galaxy. Especially if you've never heard of the
>            Rolling Stones, Sonic Youth, The Flaming Lips, My
>            Bloody Valentine, or any of the other dozens of
>            bands we directly rip-off. Heck, let's just say if
>            you've never heard of music at all, we might
>            interest you. We epitomize the kind of cool
>            subversive vibe so important to Austown
>            Austin-cool."
>
>
> "Sixteen The Sucks"
>
>                              Sixteen The Sucks
>
>            Once upon a time, there was a band called Sixteen
>            Deluxe. They were the darlings of the Austin
>            Chronicle, a death wish by anyone's standards. They
>            made uninventive, glorified heavy-metal disguised
>            as "noise rock" and the citizens of Austin bought
>            it up, but they were the only ones. They were
>            signed to a major-label, but wasted all the money
>            they were advanced on cocaine and booze. Soon after
>            their much-anticipated debut, they were laughed
>            into hiding by everyone owning copies of "Loveless"
>            and "Hit to Death in the Future Head." Their first
>            single may have been a buzz clip, but no one can
>            remember for sure. In the end, they all died
>            penniless and humiliated.
>
>
> Haaaaahahahahahaha....
>
>> 1. To Whom Should I Write
>> 2. Caught Beneath Your Heel
>> 3. All Your Tears
>> 4. Who Do You Love
>> 5. It's Your Feet You Don't*
>> 6. Some Kinda Angel
>> 7. Give What You Take
>> 8. Baby's Comin Home
>
> EIGHT? I guess they all just sort of blended together...

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Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 23:21:17 +0100
From: Erik Soderstrom 
Subject: Re: sxsw. excerpt.

> after bardo pond mojave 3 was nice but it just wasn't on the same level.

Umm, if no one has anyhing against it - I'd like to read what you wrote
about the Bardo Pond gig? I bet it was mindblasting (as I couldn't be
there to see it, I mean... :-(  )

 //Erik 

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Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 16:29:46 -0600 (CST)
From: son of dodge dart 
Subject: Re: Mojave 3 @ SXSW - a brief review

> One fan shouted for "Mercy", but considering the time constraints, I can't
> blame Mojave for limiting the set to new stuff only.

hee...that was me...fave song on 'ask me tomorrow' and i woulda died if
they'd played it. but rachel just gave me a funny look. :)

j
joroses@mail.utexas.edu

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Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 16:36:07 -0600
From: erik 
Subject: mojave 3

I was probably the only one at this entire show that was under 21. They were
very strict about not letting non-drinkers in(so they could charge three
dollars for a Pearl). I showed up about two hours early and just walked in
the front door, delighted to hear mojave doing their sound check, so I got a
little preview of the new songs before anybody else could.  I also escaped
the fifteen dollar cover charge at the door.  The show was short, but sweet.
Some people could not understand that there were actually people there that
were interested in hearing the music instead of their stupid conversations.
But what better band to deliver you away from a bad place than mojave 3?
Here is my interpretation of their new music.  If "Ask Me Tomorrow" is the
album to listen to to get through a sad, rainy day thinking about the girl
you lost, their new material is the album to listen to when the sun shines
through the window and warms your face, giving a you a ray of hope.  They
are definently songs of hope instead of songs of sadness.  I can hear a lot
of Simon and Garfunkel and maybe Bob Dylan as well.  All in all, I think
they have evolved nicely from the Slowdive/Avalyn days. Can't wait for the
new album.
erik

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Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 17:40:07 EST
From: Catchbreez 
Subject: mojave 3 eps and the rest of my story

well i first would like to say
i paid zero to get in and didnt have a wrist band
since i was 20 and my friends were aswell
the entire mojave 3 gang (well mostly ian and simon) made sure we got in

well the show was great
i did send you the set list earlier but if you didnt catch her goes

set list (ian gave it to me)
(send a scan later)

to whom should i write
caught beneath
all your tears
who do you love
some kinda angel
give what you take (pedal steel)
baby's coming home (pedal steel)

the sound the same but with a little bit more neil young and nick drake in
them
*neil has been listening to nick drake*
rachel is married which i didnt know
some guy yelled "i love you rachel" and she said "so does my husband" the
crowd was laughing
in the begining of the set neil said that tonite would all be new songs and it
was kinda quiet for a few seconds so i yelled "hey that's fine by me"
there were several bootlegers with video cameras from home (losers)
and some guy doing an internet broadcast

as for the gang i met them all
alan (dressed and looked like he was in Phish)
ian (had a backpack and eagles football tshirt he got that day at a thrift
store) abd wrangler jeans his hair was bit shaggier
neil (buttom up t shirt (like the one ian has on in the cd) and cords with his
neil young kurt cobain hair
rachel at first had a sweat shirt on then took it off and had on an angelic
skirt with a black shirt with sneakers 
simon blue cords and t shirt with race car jaket with shaved head
everyone of them had on vans or converse or addais type shoes

and of course
the pedal steel guy
a cowboy outift with a kiss army tshirt
he was so fucking good
the guys told me that they sent him the tape a few days before and he played
the pedal steel with them for the first time at sound check (which i
privaliged enough to see) he was great

anyhoo
the ep has no date
the said they are hoping for two eps for this album and i assume bsides

ian got my address and is going to send me some stuff he said
ian was my fav that night
it was my first time seeing them and i was great
they were all nice and down to earth

well 
cha cha
ciao
steve

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Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 18:02:54 EST
From: Catchbreez 
Subject: Re: mojave 3

i did the same thing
only mojave 3 new and help us out

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Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 18:06:24 EST
From: Catchbreez 
Subject: Re: Mojave 3 @ SXSW - a brief review

she didnt give you a funny look 
the only person she gave a funny look to was this chick dancing in circles

i love the strings version of mojave 3

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Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 18:07:09 EST
From: Catchbreez 
Subject: Re: Sixteen DeSucks

yes sixteen deluxe are great
i met them at emos in houston
great guys

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Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 17:18:04 -0000
From: "Ricardo Fiel" 
Subject: Anakin

I just bought the Anakin compilation, and i must say it's really amazing.
If you can, go out and get it.

Mojave 3's 'To Whom Should I Write' is wonderfull, reminding a lot Bob
Dylan. Although, Rachel doesn't sing during the whole song.

If this is the direction they are going for the new album, i suppose it's
going to be brilliant.

Bye,
Dj Ricky.

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Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 18:29:11 -0600
From: timethief@juno.com (Luis B. Abcede)
Subject: special request to anyone who went to SXSW

I went ... great gig except for HNIA.  Sure, they gave a good
performance, but I was really hoping to hear some stuff from Stars on
E.S.P.  Oh well ...

Did anybody take pictures?  Hell, if there's anyone that videotaped the
show, I'd be interested too.

I've got stuff to trade ... email me if interested.

Luis
timethief@juno.com

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Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 19:39:13 -0600 (CST)
From: John Roseborough 
Subject: Re: Sixteen DeSucks

On Sun, 22 Mar 1998, Agent Cooper wrote:

> John Roseborough wrote:
> > Really, it's
> > gotten better in the past few years. With bands like 7% Solution, Furry
> > Things, Sixteen Deluxe, Kitty, etc.. this town is starting to have a nice
> > "blissful noise" scene and a crowd that appreciates it.
> 
> 
> 
> Uhm, no, see, Kitty never plays anymore, and as for 16 De-Sux, well, they're
> definitely part of the problem.

FYI, Kitty just opened for Bedhead on Valentine's Day, and headlined a
show a little over a month ago, with OMD 20/20 opening. I'd hardly call
that "not playing anymore".

BTW, what "problem" are you referring to? That the scene in Austin, [sic] 
"sux"? I think Austin has a great number of new bands that can be called
part of a bliss/drone/noise scene.

You don't like Sixteen Deluxe, that's fine with me. My point was that
there IS a growing scene here, and I just didn't want folks to have the
impression that Austin is entirely the bluesy hippie town you say it is. 
I think it's this kind of stereotype that keeps cool bands from playing
here! 

For example, Portishead skipped Texas entirely on their first tour
because they didn't think they'd sell enough tickets. Their Austin show
next Wednesday is sold out! Austin is finally getting past the blues rock 
stereotype with events like SXSW that bring bands and DJs here that
normally wouldn't come to Texas (ie. Bardo Pond, To Rococo Rot, Kila, 
Arab Strap, Josh Wink, etc..).

A couple of other local bands that are part of the "insert accurate
name for noise/drone/bliss/whatever" scene include American Analog Set
(heard of them?) and The Swells (obviously influenced by slowdive).
We wouldn't have a record store like 33 Degrees in business if it
weren't for people who appreciate these new local bands to buy their
stuff. Don't believe that Austin is a wasteland of Stevie Ray Vaughn
wannabees.. that's just not true.

John

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Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 20:42:38 -0600
From: Agent Cooper 
Subject: Austin sucks

John Roseborough wrote:

> BTW, what "problem" are you referring to? That the scene in Austin, [sic]
> "sux"? I think Austin has a great number of new bands that can be called
> part of a bliss/drone/noise scene.

Maybe - I guess it just depends on your standards. If you enjoy having your
ears nagged by 16 "deluxe", then good for you. I'm sure being able to survive,
and even appreciate, what could only be described as torture must be a good
attribute to possess in a world full of crap-art.

You put 7% in the "bliss/drone/noise scene"? More like "psychedelic
space-rock" or some such.

> I just didn't want folks to have the
> impression that Austin is entirely the bluesy hippie town you say it is.

Oh, but it is. A bunch of old farts drinking Shiner and bellowing, "Remember
the Armadillo!"

> Austin is finally getting past the blues rock
> stereotype with events like SXSW that bring bands and DJs here that
> normally wouldn't come to Texas (ie. Bardo Pond, To Rococo Rot, Kila,
> Arab Strap, Josh Wink, etc..).

They come to sell their wares to the industry pimps, not to perform for
appreciative Austinites.

And Josh Wink... wow, I had totally forgotten about that *TALENTLESS HACK*.
He's not even smart enough to rip-off GOOD musicians the way 16 "deluxe" does.
I'd happily go to jail for killing Josh Wink.

> A couple of other local bands that are part of the "insert accurate
> name for noise/drone/bliss/whatever" scene include American Analog Set
> (heard of them?)

Ah yes, how could I possibly overlook the next Chronicle hype machine? They
get my vote for "overrated band of the year". Crap.

> We wouldn't have a record store like 33 Degrees in business if it
> weren't for people who appreciate these new local bands to buy their
> stuff.

Tell you what, I'll ask Dan what percentage of their sales are from AUSTIN
bands. I'm sure you'll be surprised.

Go watch your Austin Stories tape - maybe that'll wisen you up a bit.

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Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 23:46:42 -0600
From: Agent Cooper 
Subject: In Mind (non-remix) & Moussaka Chaos MP3s are up

In Mind (non-remix)
http://www.flash.net/~agentc/slowdive.html

Moussaka Chaos
http://www.fringeware.com/anathema/cooper/slowdive.html

Both will probably be up for 2 weeks to make sure everyone gets them.
After these will come the remixes of In Mind.

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Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 00:08:01 -0600 (CST)
From: son of dodge dart 
Subject: austin

ok both of yall made good points...i'd like to plead the moderate route and
i hope yall don't get in a tiff about the whole thing...imo austin has its
old guard and new guard, the old guard is boring, the new guard is boring
and overrated (...trail of the dead, the late american analog set, 16D,
furry things (doh))...the new guard is becoming such because they're making
their own way, if you don't like it, try to change it. i think there's a
lot of unsung talent in certain genres here, we just need more people to
get into it and places to play. *shrug*

and shit, i think enough ppl know about austin by now, it's just that for
some reason bands like to skip texas on tours. does size matter? ;)

joroses@mail.utexas.edu

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Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 01:19:12 -0500
From: Andy McMillan 
Subject: Re: austin

son of dodge dart wrote:

> *SNIP* the late american analog set

Do you mean to say that they have split up? or am I taking this too
literally?

	Andy

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Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 11:12:04 -0500 (EST)
From: Claire De Leon! 
Subject: Re: Anakin

> I just bought the Anakin compilation, and i must say it's really amazing.
> If you can, go out and get it.

I have one of these for sale which many people expressed interest in, and
I put it on hold for someone and they never picked it up, so if anyone
wants it, please e-mail me (privately, of course)...

Daniel

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