The Avalyn Digest

Today's Topics:
	 Re: My Blue Day woes.
	 music desparation
	 Re: CURVE POSTERS
	 Re: CURVE POSTERS
	 Searching For the Set
	 Re: Adorable
	 kaleidoscope eyes
	 Re: CURVE POSTERS
	 Re: music desparation
	 mojave3 online
	 slowdive
	 Re: CURVE POSTERS
	 Re: mojave3 online
	 Re: CURVE POSTERS
	 Re: avalyn-d Digest V98 #48
	 REPOST:demo...
	 Re: mojave3 online
	 Re: mojave3 online
	 Re: mojave3 online
	 CD EP Auction ending April 15
	 terrastock west?
	 Re: slowdive

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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 07:10:53 PDT
From: "michaelnicki barrett" 
Subject: Re: My Blue Day woes.

the old blue day blue's well I was haging out for blueday for years 
and by a fluke of nature and shear luke my local record store got in
all the slowdive ep's on 12" inclueding blueday .He gave me first choice 
so I snaped them all up and reordeered 7 copies of blueday.
But all of the sudden news from the supplier said that they are 
deleted(I knew they were deleted) and now not available, now the funny 
thing is this was a week later from the first lot turning up and only 
six months ago so go work that one out.

The best news is I only payed todays standard ep prices sorry to mention 
that but I'm not trying to hurt everyone on this list ,all I'm going to 
say is if you can't get the bootleg for free don't get it I'd 
rather a taped copy than pay someone great amounts for something that is 
avaiable on older ep's $20 - $25 dollars US is to much unless it is real 
rare I would even consider it .

Thanks
Michael

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Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 15:55:09 +0100
From: davebp@postmaster.co.uk
Subject: music desparation

yeah, i think its kinda funny that everyone is going on and on about how they
wouldn't pay that much really for rarities. why is it so cool to play down how
much effort and expense you have gone to in building up an awesome cd
collection? everyone loves to say: "yeah i got it when it came out...", "i paid
the original ep price", and all that. no one ever says, "yeah, it took me years
to build up this cd collection and a shitload of my time money and effort". or
"i paid $200 for this cd...". the value of an object is always what somone is
willing to pay for it. so if someone didn't know about a band a few years ago
when they were starting out and didn't get something then, its really up to
them to decide how much they want to pay for it, not for us to say "i got it
when it came out", "i paid regular ep price for it...", etc. i dunno if all
this makes sense. by all means help each other out in finding stuff you want
but dont keep saying "yeah i got it 35 years ago and the band paid me to take
it"... that gives you the shits if you are the guy that doesn't have it.

so here's my confession: i have spent the last 9 years building up my cd
collection. it has cost me time, money, effort and half the space in my
bedroom. i think its a pretty nice collection, but there is still stuff i want.
and there is nothing i wouldn't pay to get that stuff. i dont really care what
it cost when it came out, i only care that what i am prepared to pay for it is
what the seller wants for it and at the end of the day i get my goodies. so
yeah, after all this, flame away... im expecting some fireworks and third
degree burns...

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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 10:27:17 -0500
From: John Van 
Subject: Re: CURVE POSTERS

Crios@dminet.davidson-marketing.com wrote:

> I just went to a Curve show last night at the Doubledoor in Chicago... They
> were REALLY good... Are they geting radio play???   I was kinda suprised by
> the people in the audience... Not quite who I expected.

Was it a bunch of goths??

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Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 17:47:15 +0100
From: davebp@postmaster.co.uk
Subject: Re: CURVE POSTERS

>> I just went to a Curve show last night at the Doubledoor in Chicago...
>> They were REALLY good... Are they geting radio play???   I was kinda
>> suprised by the people in the audience... Not quite who I expected.
>
>  Was it a bunch of goths??

or a bunch of little girls expecting garbage part 2??????

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Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 12:44:54 EDT
From: Lull45 
Subject: Searching For the Set

Hey kids..
I was wondering if anyone knew anything about any American Analog Set
websites... If so please email me...

Cheers

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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 18:50:52 +0200
From: Matthias Landwehr 
Subject: Re: Adorable

Hi justin,

Adorable related stuff is located at
http://www.odc.net/~ssharma/adorable/
It's a great site, so check it out,

Bye, Matthias.

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Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:45:48 +0000
From: "wade@tapehouse.com" 
Subject: kaleidoscope eyes

Anyone interested in reading a great book should check out, 
Kaleidoscope eyes by Jim Derogatis.   It mentions everything from Eno 
to Slowdive, to MBV to the Byrds.  I thought it was interesting as 
they described drug users as "heads" and the music identified as 
"head rock."  Anyone who saw the slowdive poetic frenzy video might 
remember Neil Halstead describing slowdive as "head" music.  Pretty 
cool huh?  

wade

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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 20:46:45 +0200
From: Erik Soderstrom 
Subject: Re: CURVE POSTERS

>>> I just went to a Curve show last night at the Doubledoor in Chicago...
>>> They were REALLY good... Are they geting radio play???   I was kinda 
>>> suprised by the people in the audience... Not quite who I expected.
>>
>> Was it a bunch of goths??
>
> or a bunch of little girls expecting garbage part 2??????

Heh heh, well - the average Garbage fan has probably not heard Curve
yet, and when they do, they'll think they're a rip-off. Sad, but
luckily there's history and a catalog to surprise them with. ;)
No no, don't get me wrong - I do like Garbage, but their latest
single is just too close for comfort..

About radio play - Garbage is getting all the radio play here in
Sweden with their new single. I even wrote to the MD of the swedish
national radio the other day asking why they play Garbage every
second hour and I still haven't heard them play one single song
from Curve's new album. No reply (of course). They did play some
Curve songs back around 93, but not many, and not often. Don't
know what they have against them.

 //Erik 

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Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 15:12:50 EDT
From: Rephlex00 
Subject: Re: music desparation

i agree totally, i think people are often too keen to make    out they were
"the first in the scene" and all that crap,

i have paid out loads for the stupedest things
but i have been lucky, i usually just be persistant and stuff falls into my
lap!

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Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 19:55:54 +0100
From: davebp@postmaster.co.uk
Subject: mojave3 online

hey, if anyone is interested, mojave3's recent gig in texas is now online
at: http://www.rollingstone.com/sections/performance/text/vvarchives.asp

(i think)

i guess you all already know, but i guess that means i'mm telling you again

anyway...
dave

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Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 17:05:44 +0200
From: "LOSING TODAY" 
Subject: slowdive

I'm looking for Slowdive bootlegs( including unreleased songs)
 and for "Glass Arcade" cd (Sarah comp including Eternal, a pre-slowdive
band)

 i've the following Slowdive items to trade :

 SLOWDIVE  12"
 HOLDING OUR BREATH 12"

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Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 14:35:15 -0500 (CDT)
From: Steven Sheets 
Subject: Re: CURVE POSTERS

On Tue, 7 Apr 1998 davebp@postmaster.co.uk wrote:

>>> I just went to a Curve show last night at the Doubledoor in Chicago...
>>> They were REALLY good... Are they geting radio play???   I was kinda
>>> suprised by the people in the audience... Not quite who I expected.
>>
>>  Was it a bunch of goths??
> 
> or a bunch of little girls expecting garbage part 2??????

it was a twentyone and over show, was it not?  that is why i didn't go and
i'm a bit bitter about it since i couldn't make it to the ohio eithor.  

i doubt they are getting much radio play in chicago but i've been playing
their new album quite a bit on my college radio show.  

oh well, does anyone know if they are going to have another u.s. tour with
more tour dates sometime?

steven s.

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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 22:28:13 +0200
From: Erik Soderstrom 
Subject: Re: mojave3 online

At 19:55 1998-04-07 +0100, you wrote:
> hey, if anyone is interested, mojave3's recent gig in texas is now online
> at: http://www.rollingstone.com/sections/performance/text/vvarchives.asp

Great! Rachel said they broadcasted it live on the web (afterwards - she said
she would have let us all know before it happened but they didn't know
themselves until it was too late to grab a 'puter and a keyboard
somewhere to mail the news off) but that they were going to add it to
their archives sooner or later as well. Good news (listening to it
right now :-)) indeed!

 //Erik 

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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 22:31:18 +0200
From: Erik Soderstrom 
Subject: Re: CURVE POSTERS

> oh well, does anyone know if they are going to have another u.s. tour with
> more tour dates sometime?

People who have met them on their current tour have said they're
coming back (touring with the Dandy Warhols...) to the US in June.

 //Erik

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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 16:33:38 -0400
From: jvanslem 
Subject: Re: avalyn-d Digest V98 #48

> Subject: MXR delay unit
> Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 23:36:44 -0400
> From: jvanslem 
> To: Slowdive list 
>
> Anyone ever see a double-rack space MXR delay unit? I saw one at a
> guitar shop today. I didn't get a chance to look at it too closely, but
> It looks as if it might be able to do some delay-based modulation
> effects too. It was $100. Anyone?
>
> Justin

Sorry I meant to send this to the "sound" list, it's too close in my
address book. It's been a crazy week too. Hey, at least I didn't
forward some post about some kid with cancer who's last wish is too......
you know.............

later,
Justin

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Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 15:44:51 +0100
From: Kevin Wood 
Subject: REPOST:demo...

For those of you who couldnt hear the RealAudio.... I also included links
to each individual song in Quicktime format....They are still compressed so
they dont sound 100%, and the files sizes are pretty huge....but the new
versions of Quicktime are streaming so hopefully it will work for most of
you...

I've sent a few of these songs to the list before, but now I've added some
new ones to the demo and did a little work on the old ones as well....

the project is called "snowmobile".....

it is encoded in RealAudio....40 kbps...Stereo ISDN....(obviosly sound
quality has suffered but I think it still sounds pretty decent)
(and it is on my work site...so dont publicize it too much :)

Oh...one more thing...try to listen loud with headphones!  I spent a lot of
time doing some panning effects.....

so anyway, tell me what you think!

the whole thing is about 42  minutes long and can be accessed from here:
http://www.news.com/Beta/kwood/snow/snowmobile.ram

you can also access it by each song....

1. Intro to Dusk (http://www.news.com/Beta/kwood/snow/intro.ram): or
(http://www.news.com/Beta/kwood/snow/intro.mov)

---this is basically a little intro of samples/ambient noises/and a beat
that comes in.....

2. This Feeling (http://www.news.com/Beta/kwood/snow/thisfeeling.ram) or
(http://www.news.com/Beta/kwood/snow/thisfeeling.mov)
---a guitar/overdriven organ based song....

3. Deeper (http://www.news.com/Beta/kwood/snow/deeper.ram) or
(http://www.news.com/Beta/kwood/snow/deeper.mov)
---based purely on samples.... a slower beat with a very deep dub
feel...layering sounds as it progresses...

4. Glazed (http://www.news.com/Beta/kwood/snow/glazed.ram) or
(http://www.news.com/Beta/kwood/snow/glazed.mov)
---a little beat interval, then a long quiet guitar intro...then the full
song with a poppier feel...consisting mainly of guitar, drums, synth,
vocals...

5. Phosphorous (http://www.news.com/Beta/kwood/snow/phosphorous.ram) or
(http://www.news.com/Beta/kwood/snow/phosphorous.mov)
---electronic song with drum loops, big sweeping synths, etc....with a more
ambient section in the middle....

6. I'll Smile (http://www.news.com/Beta/kwood/snow/smile.ram) or
(http://www.news.com/Beta/kwood/snow/smile.mov)
---ambient guitarwash with vocals.....

7. Broken Brain (http://www.news.com/Beta/kwood/snow/broken.ram) or
(http://www.news.com/Beta/kwood/snow/broken.mov)
---drone song with 303 sequences and beats...thrown through effects

8. Daydreaming (http://www.news.com/Beta/kwood/snow/daydreaming.ram) or
(http://www.news.com/Beta/kwood/snow/daydreaming.mov)
---consists of a frantic beat, droney organs, backwards samples, and vocals
a la Neil Halstead...

thanks!
-kevin

Kevin Wood

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Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 18:41:05 -0500
From: timethief@juno.com (Luis B. Abcede)
Subject: Re: mojave3 online

Does anybody know how to rip this off the site?  I'd like to keep a copy
on my hard drive for future listening.  I've already looked at the URL in
the AD010539.RAM file.  The URL kinda looks funny.

pnm://jamtv6.jamtv.com/artists/M/Mojavethree/Audios/AD010539.ra

I tried changing the "pnm" header to "http," but my browser gives me a
404 error.  Any techies out there know how I can get around it?  I'm
assuming pnm means that it's streaming off a RealMedia server.

HELP!
Luis
timethief@juno.com

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Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 18:41:57 +0100
From: Kevin Wood 
Subject: Re: mojave3 online

Since they didnt enable the "selective record" option when encoding the
file, there is no way you can get a copy of it...

The actual audio file(.ra) live on jamtv's audio server(indicated with the
pnm:)...and the only way I know of to access it is through
ftp/fetch/etc.....  and I'm sure they require a password to access the
directory, although I havent actually tried

> Does anybody know how to rip this off the site?  I'd like to keep a copy
> on my hard drive for future listening.  I've already looked at the URL in
> the AD010539.RAM file.  The URL kinda looks funny.
>
> pnm://jamtv6.jamtv.com/artists/M/Mojavethree/Audios/AD010539.ra
>
> I tried changing the "pnm" header to "http," but my browser gives me a
> 404 error.  Any techies out there know how I can get around it?  I'm
> assuming pnm means that it's streaming off a RealMedia server.

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Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 21:04:32 -0500 (CDT)
From: John Roseborough 
Subject: Re: mojave3 online

You can't save it to your hard drive, but you can make an analog or
digital recording of it, of course.

1. Get a DAT, recording mini-disc, 4-track, or some other recording
   device.
2. Get on a fast connection, like a university T1 or your best friend's
   ISDN connection at home. ;-)
3. Connect a cable from the output of your audio output (Mac) or soundcard
   (PC) to the input on your recording device.
4. Record the show.

The Mojave 3 recording is in mono, and the site is sometimes laggy, so
you'll get a fair recording. I've recorded a few shows this way for my own
pleasure (no bootlegging here... no one would buy a crappy .ra bootleg
anyway).

John

On Tue, 7 Apr 1998, Kevin Wood wrote:

> Since they didnt enable the "selective record" option when encoding the
> file, there is no way you can get a copy of it...
> 
> The actual audio file(.ra) live on jamtv's audio server(indicated with the
> pnm:)...and the only way I know of to access it is through
> ftp/fetch/etc.....  and I'm sure they require a password to access the
> directory, although I havent actually tried
> 
>> Does anybody know how to rip this off the site?  I'd like to keep a copy
>> on my hard drive for future listening.  I've already looked at the URL in
>> the AD010539.RAM file.  The URL kinda looks funny.
>>
>> pnm://jamtv6.jamtv.com/artists/M/Mojavethree/Audios/AD010539.ra
>>
>> I tried changing the "pnm" header to "http," but my browser gives me a
>> 404 error.  Any techies out there know how I can get around it?  I'm
>> assuming pnm means that it's streaming off a RealMedia server.

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Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 17:42:43 -0700
From: bilner 
Subject: CD EP Auction ending April 15

Big CD EP auction ends April 15:
http://www.loop.com/~bilner/EPauction.html

Thanks for your interest!
Bill


Please let me know if you'd like to raise your bid(s).

Thanks for your interest!
Bill

Big CD EP auction ends April 15:
http://www.loop.com/~bilner/EPauction.html

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Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 00:20:59 +0600
From: box-and-whiskers 
Subject: terrastock west?

anyone going?

(apologies for the cross-post.)

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Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 02:40:47 EDT
From: Catchbreez 
Subject: Re: slowdive

what are you looking for
i would like the slowdive 12"

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