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	 Re: witchman
	 Last few days for 800 CD EP auction!
	 Re: witchman
	 Slowdive list cd
	 Ride discography
	 Re: Slowdive list cd
	 Re: witchman
	 Re: witchman
	 Re: BE  (was: Re: witchman)
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Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 19:59:58 -0700 (PDT)
From: Gage Crump 
Subject: someone's selling Blue Day/Slowdive stuff 

--I thought people might be interested in this. I have no idea who this
guy is, I just saw this advertised in a newgroup. Sorry its so long-- 

mainline@flash.net                         Ian Christensen at drugs not
jobs...

If there is no price next to an item, it means it is up for bid for any
price unless there is a minimum, and the highest bid will get it. I will
take the highest bid by the end of the month (unless someone bids enough
that I take that offer). Discounts are available for large orders. And I
will lower prices in some situations. Please pass this list on to
friends who like similar music as yourselves who may not be on usenet or
the internet. Thank you, and enjoy the list.


CD's-
*The Cure - "Lullaby" UK 3" single w/2 b-sides & remix ($8)
*Dead Can Dance - 13 track promo sampler 1994 in slip sleeve ($20)
*Dead Can Dance - "The Ubiquitous Mr. Lovegrove" promo single w/ two
versions ($3)
*My Bloody Valentine - "This Is Your Bloody Valentine" mega rare first
CD (bids)
*Ride - "Kaleidoscope" 7 track US promo with 6 live songs ($18)
*Sisters Of Mercy - "Enter The Sisters" 14 track promo of pre-1st lp
material (bids)
*Slowdive - "Souvlaki/Blue Day" double limited cd (bids)
*The Smiths - "The Headmaster Ritual" rare UK single way out of print
(bids)
*The Timelords (KLF) - "Doctorin' The Tardis (Dr. Who!)" UK 3" single
($3)

Tapes-
*The Charlatans - "Some Friendly" mispressed Australian w/ promo t-shirt
($12)
*Cocteau Twins - "Heaven Or Las Vegas" US promo w/ differnt sleeve ($6)
*Cocteau Twins - 4 track promo sampler for re-release of albums ($8)
*The Cure - "Boys Don't Cry" UK w/ "World War" ($7)
*The Cure - "Concert" West Germany cassette w/out "Curiosity" ($5)
*The Cure - "Faith/Carnage Visors" UK w/ strange "CV" intro ($5)
*The Cure - "Happily Ever After" rare US only cassette w/ "faith" & "17"
($20)
*The Cure - "Just Like Heaven" US single w/ b-sides ($10)
*The Cure - "Pornography" US 1st pressing on A&M records ($8)
*Ian McClloch - "Candleland" advance promo US ($5)
*Various Artists - "Nasa Tour" promo w/ Aphex Twin, Orbital, Moby &
Vapourspace ($4)

7" Records-
*Bauhaus (The Sinister Ducks) - "March Of The Sinister Ducks" Kevin
Haskins band after Bauhaus, mega-rare UK w/ comic book poster sleeve
(bids)
*Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds - "Loverman" UK picture disc autographed by
whole band (bids)
*The Cure - "A Forest" UK autographed by Robert & Simon (bids)
*The Cure - "Killing An Arab" UK first press (on Small Wonder)
autographed by Robert (bids)
*Death In June - "Sundogs" UK w/ sticker limited to 3,000($5)
*Jesus & Mary Chain - "Upside Down" UK yellow cover on Creation w/
"Vegtable Man" ($12)
*Jesus & Mary Chain - "Upside Down" US pressing on Rough Trade w/
"Vegtable Man" ($18)
*Jesus & Mary Chain - "Some Candy Talking" UK double single w/ 7 songs
(4 accoustic) ($15)
*Mazzy Star - "Halah" US blue vinyl promo (no picture sleeveissued) ($4)
*My Bloody Valentine - "To Here Knows When" UK ($5)
*The Primitives - "Stop Killing Me" UK first press on Lazy Records ($8)
*The Primitives - "Way Behind Me" UK limited w/ post card ($5)
*Shonen Knife - "Space Christmas" US ($3)
*Slowdive/Ride - "She Calls"/"Leave Them All Behind" US Promo on blue
vinyl w/ radio sticker (sorry) on Ride picture ($5)
*Slowdive - "Beach Song" US flexi disc ($10)
*The Smiths - "This Charming Man" UK 1-sided promo (no picture sleeve
issued) ($40)

12" Records-
*The Cure - "Kiss Me" rare UK promo album sampler w/ 4 songs (bids)
*The Cure - "The Kiss Me Interview" rare UK promo interview 12" (bids)
*The Cure - "Pornography" Japenese first pressing on VAP Records W/
lyric sheet ($20)
*The Cure - "Singles" very rare New Zeland only 12" w/4 songs
("Forest","Primary","Charlotte Sometimes","Hanging Garden") and
exclusive cover on Stunn records (bids)
*The Cure (Tim Pope) - "I Want To Be A Tree" very rare UK 12" w/ Robert
Smith on Fiction records (bids)
*Current 93 - "LAShTAL" UK 2nd print of first 12" w/3 songs on Laylah
records ($18)
*Current 93/Nurse With Wound/Sol Invictus - "Horse"/"Lumbs Sister"/"Lex
Talionis" UK box set with all three albums, very much out of print
(bids)
*Current 93/Nurse With Wound/Sol Invistus - UK Sampler for above box set
with songs not included on box set ($15)
*Death In June/Current 93 - "1888" UK first edition on black vinyl
limited to 2,000 ($25)
*Death In June/Current 93 - "1888" UK second pressing on red vinyl
limited to 1,000 ($30)
*Death In June - "Brown Book" UK first pressing ($25)
*Death In June - "Burial" rare UK pressing on clear vinyl linited to
1,000 ($60)
*Death In June - "But, What Ends When The Symbols Shatter?" UK pressing
on purple vinyl limited to 500 ($25)
*Death In June - "The Calling" UK 12" (minimum bid $23)
*Death In June - "Flowers Of Autumn" super rare UK test pressing on
black vinyl with hand made cover, less then 20 or so in existence
(minimum bid: $80)
*Death In June - "The Guilty Have No Pride" UK 2nd press ($30)
*Death In June - "Heaven Street" UK first pressing with brown bunker
cover limited to 2,000 ($60)
*Death In June - "Live in Japan" super rare 1-sided Japan only LP on
Super Natural Organization records(minimum bid $80)
*Death In June - "Lesson One: Misanthropy" UK grey cover (minimum bid
$25)
*Death In June - "Night And Fog" very rare UK red vinyl limited to 1,000
(minimum bid $45)
*Death In June - "Nada" UK brown texture cover ($23)
*Death In June - "93 Dead Sunwheels" UK first pressing (minimum bid $23)
*Death In June - "Paradise Rising" UK 12" w/ signed insert limited to
2,000 ($20)
*Death In June - "Rose Clouds Of Holocaust" UK first pressing on black
vinyl ($18)
*Death In June - "To Drown A Rose" rare UK 10" pressing (minimum bid
$30)
*Death In June - "The Wall Of Sacrifice" rare UK gold cover limited to
640 copies (minimum bid $40)
*Death In June - "The World That Summer" UK first pressing(?) double LP
($25)
*Morrissey - "Tomorrow" US on purple vinyl w/ promo stamp ($5)
*The Primitives - "Out Of Reach" UK single w/ live cuts ($5)
*The Primitives - "Stop Killing Me" rare UK first pressing on Lazy
records ($12)
*The Primitives - "Thru The Flowers" re-recorded version on Lazy records
UK ($8)
*The Primitives - "Way Behind Me" UK ($5)
*Slowdive - "Blue Day" rare UK LP on Creation Records very much out of
print (minimum bid $20)
*Slowdive - "5EP" UK ($5)
*Slowdive - "5EP-Remixes" UK ($5)
*The Smiths - "Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now" UK ($10)
*The Smiths - "Shakespeares Sister" UK 12" ($10)
*The Smiths - "This Charming Man" rare UK 12" ($25)
*The Smiths - "This Charming Man" very rare US 12" w/ remixes (minimum
bid $40)
*Spiritualized - "Feel So Sad" UK 12" ($10)

Other-
*Nick Cave - "King Ink" book by Nick with lyrics & scribbles ($6)
*Cocteau Twins - "Four Calander Cafe`" US promo jigsaw puzzle (minimum
bid $25)
*Current 93 - "Simply Being" UK 1 (20 minute) song on CD only available
with book written by James Low ($18)
*Morrissey - "James Dean Is Not Dead" very rare UK book written by
Morrissey before the Smiths (minimum bid $40)
*New Order - "The Best Of New Order" UK promo pocket puzzle (minimum bid
$18)
*Psychic TV - "Thee Psychick Bible" scriptures, manifesto's & essays
long out of print written by Genesis P-Orridge & Thee Third Mind Ov
Psychic TV collected in one book ($6)
*Sol Invictus (Tony Wakeford) - "Above Us The Sun" UK hard cover book w/
lyrics and other writings by Tony. Includes exclusive 3 track CD ($18)

Thank you...

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Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 22:31:46 PDT
From: "Pearson Greer" 
Subject: witchman

someone saw Witchman open up for Curve? how was that? 

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Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 11:51:30 -0700
From: Mitch Bacigalupi 
Subject: Re: witchman

>someone saw Witchman open up for Curve? how was that?


NO WAY!!!  Really?  Where was this?  I just saw Curve here in San
Francisco.  Funky Chakra opened.  I wish WE had Witchman opening up!

Speaking of Witchman, If you don't have the Bowery Electric remix double
CD, go get it! It has Witchman and Third Eye Foundation doing remixes.

Cheers,
-Mitch

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Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 12:05:00 -0700
From: bilner 
Subject: Last few days for 800 CD EP auction!

Last call for bids on 800 rare CD EPs...
Auction ends midnight PDT Wednesday...
http://www.loop.com/~bilner/EPauction.html

Thanks for your interest!
Bill

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Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 20:06:18 -0400 (EDT)
From: mike p 
Subject: Re: witchman

> someone saw Witchman open up for Curve? how was that? 

i saw bowery electrice open for wichman (should have been the other way
around eh?) in london last summer. he was ok. pretty normal sounding drum
n bass. he used a roland groovebox almost exclusivly. i HATE those things,
but it made it semi interesting even still. unfortunatly BE only played
for about 30 min and bitchman didn't "jam" with them or play the remix
track. oh well.

mike

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Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 17:43:30 PDT
From: "Gordon Brown" 
Subject: Slowdive list cd

I was just looking at the Ep auction list and saw that someone was 
offering $30 for "Outside Your Room" ep. I don't know about
everyone else but I'm sure there are others on this list
that feel that $30 for 4 songs is crazy. "Blue Day" sells, not is worth 
-- actually sells, for $50+ and it doesn't have that many more
songs on it. As illegal as the David Stack thing no has offered any
alternative to this cd. The talk about the list cd has been going
on for ages but it seems to be nothing more than that. It seems to 
be nothing but a topic that comes up for discussion when there isn't 
much else going on on the list.

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Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 18:00:22 PDT
From: "Gordon Brown" 
Subject: Ride discography

Hello,

I've been searching the net for a decent Ride discography but
have found nothing. Does anyone know where one is or actually have one.

Thanks for your time.
Gordon

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Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 04:03:48 +0200
From: Erik Soderstrom 
Subject: Re: Slowdive list cd

At 17:43 1998-04-12 PDT, you wrote:
> The talk about the list cd has been going on for ages but it seems to be 
> nothing more than that. It seems to be nothing but a topic that comes up
> for discussion when there isn't much else going on on the list.

On my side of the whole thing, I'm still waiting for Rachel to tell us
what Neil's thoughts about a list CD are. She promised to talk to him
about it, and get back - promptly. I realise they are both busy people,
and I don't want to nag them about it constantly, so I keep on waiting.

 //Erik 

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Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 19:47:51 -0700
From: Mitch Bacigalupi 
Subject: Re: witchman

>> someone saw Witchman open up for Curve? how was that?
>
> i saw bowery electrice open for wichman (should have been the other way
> around eh?) in london last summer. he was ok. pretty normal sounding drum
> n bass. he used a roland groovebox almost exclusivly. i HATE those things,
> but it made it semi interesting even still.

Oh man...that sucks.  Those MC303's are the worst.  I think Roland is
single handedly tring to destroy music now, but that's another story...

>unfortunatly BE only played
>for about 30 min and bitchman didn't "jam" with them or play the remix
>track. oh well.

Don't you hate that?  First of all the opening band is better than the
"headliner", then they only play for 30 min on top of it.  That's shit.
But, think on the bright side...If BE only played for 30 min., would you
want someone playing a MC303 (groovbox) over them?  I think not...

Cheers,
-Mitch

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Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 00:26:18 -0500
From: son of dodge dart 
Subject: Re: witchman

> >> someone saw Witchman open up for Curve? how was that?
> >
> > i saw bowery electrice open for wichman (should have been the other way
> > around eh?) in london last summer. he was ok. pretty normal sounding drum
> > n bass. he used a roland groovebox almost exclusivly. i HATE those things,
> > but it made it semi interesting even still.
>
> Oh man...that sucks.  Those MC303's are the worst.  I think Roland is
> single handedly tring to destroy music now, but that's another story...

1. not even. they're just trying to capitalize on the revival of their
'vintage' analogue gear (106, 303, 202, 101, 909, 808, all these damn
numbers, you know) at overhyped prices. is all.

> > unfortunatly BE only played
> > for about 30 min and bitchman didn't "jam" with them or play the remix
> > track. oh well.
>
> Don't you hate that?  First of all the opening band is better than the
> "headliner", then they only play for 30 min on top of it.  That's shit.
> But, think on the bright side...If BE only played for 30 min., would you
> want someone playing a MC303 (groovbox) over them?  I think not...

23. *shrug* i think i'da rather heard a good dj...i dig most of BE's
recorded output but when they played in austin the last time around...they
rocked the first time i saw them, but the second time, i mean, come on,
can't you change around a loop every so often? the same breakbeat+sample of
a scratchy record -- this gets old after about 30 seconds, let alone 5
minutes. i admire the forage into beatland which too few guitar-based
musicians seem to want to do, but the fact remains that if you're going to
include a programmed beat in your music, you had better make it fucking
interesting because 1) there's only so much you can do with a good guitar
line, and 2) a good drum beat becomes boring more quickly than a good
[drony] guitar line. blame it on poison, mtv, four years of raves,
whatever. the fact of the matter remains that static, unchanging beats went
out the way of grandmaster flash and kool moe dee. what's going to take its
place? hopefully something more thought out than the last BE.

joanna
life is for fun

onnow: best purchase in months, an impulse buy of _light_ at a horrific store

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Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 11:53:37 -0700
From: voltron 
Subject: Re: BE  (was: Re: witchman)

son of dodge dart wrote:

> minutes. i admire the forage into beatland which too few guitar-based
> musicians seem to want to do, but the fact remains that if you're going to
> include a programmed beat in your music, you had better make it fucking
> interesting because 1) there's only so much you can do with a good guitar
> line, and 2) a good drum beat becomes boring more quickly than a good
> [drony] guitar line. blame it on poison, mtv, four years of raves,
> whatever. the fact of the matter remains that static, unchanging beats went
> out the way of grandmaster flash and kool moe dee. what's going to take its
> place? hopefully something more thought out than the last BE.
> joanna

Are you speaking in reference to the Blow Up 12"?  When I first heard
that I thought it sounded like a demo record that should be called "How
to Make Drum n Bass - For the Beginner".

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Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 04:31:00 -0400 (EDT)
From: butterfly mcqueen 
Subject: Re: witchman

> i admire the forage into beatland which too few guitar-based
> musicians seem to want to do, but the fact remains that if you're going to
> include a programmed beat in your music, you had better make it fucking
> interesting because 1) there's only so much you can do with a good guitar
> line, and 2) a good drum beat becomes boring more quickly than a good
> [drony] guitar line. blame it on poison, mtv, four years of raves,
> whatever. the fact of the matter remains that static, unchanging beats went
> out the way of grandmaster flash and kool moe dee. what's going to take its
> place? hopefully something more thought out than the last BE.

i totally agree.  but we should give them some credit (as you've clearly
done) because they're still learning and experimenting, and i'm sure they're
realizing the same thing.  especially now that they've got their own studio
at home, complete w/ pro tools and all that shit.  like think about the
first time you made a cool-ass loop.  "wow, i can run this shit on repeat
forever!"  hehe

> onnow: best purchase in months, an impulse buy of _light_ at a horrific store

do you mean light's full length, _counter_, on wurlitzer jukebox?  if so --
i was kinda disappointed at first, b/c i bought the turning/presence 7"
earlier and i f'in loved it cuz it was some of the best fsa-type stuff i'd
ever heard.  but the cd is more orchestrated, song-like, etc.  there's only
one song on it (#5) that is like the single.  oh, and one other song (#7, i
think, with the crashing drums, downstrum overdriven guitar, and echoing
vocals) i thought was really awesome.  the rest i didn't know about.  but i
came to like it a bit more, though i still don't think it matches up to the
single.  (speaking of, has anyone heard their more recent, 2nd 7"?  didn't
get around to checking it out.)  but a whole album of that type of stuff
would probably be boring after a while, i guess.

; e.e.

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Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 04:35:21 -0400 (EDT)
From: butterfly mcqueen 
Subject: Re: BE  (was: Re: witchman)

> Are you speaking in reference to the Blow Up 12"?  When I first heard
> that I thought it sounded like a demo record that should be called "How
> to Make Drum n Bass - For the Beginner".

LOL, totally!  i love the track otherwise, but it's got that tired beat
formula that got played out a long time ago.  it's that "semtex" (from the
12", not the LP) thing -- loop some amen break variation for a while, play
it a reduced speed (usually 1/2 speed) for a while, pause, come in again
with the original, etc.  though 3ef did *some* interesting modulation within
the song.  

but it's a cool beat ("blow up," that is), and it shows some potential for
future BE....

; e.e.

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Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 14:25:13 -0400 (EDT)
From: mike p 
Subject: Re: witchman

> Don't you hate that?  First of all the opening band is better than the
> "headliner", then they only play for 30 min on top of it.  That's shit.
> But, think on the bright side...If BE only played for 30 min., would you
> want someone playing a MC303 (groovbox) over them?  I think not...

oh, it was an AWESOME 30 minutes tho. what really pissed me off is that i
got there 20 minutes late and missed an even shorter set by the
(incredibly shoegazy that night im told) first band AMP. 

grr
mike  

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Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 14:33:38 -0400 (EDT)
From: mike p 
Subject: Re: witchman

> > Oh man...that sucks.  Those MC303's are the worst.  I think Roland is
> > single handedly tring to destroy music now, but that's another story...
> >
> 
> 1. not even. they're just trying to capitalize on the revival of their
> 'vintage' analogue gear (106, 303, 202, 101, 909, 808, all these damn
> numbers, you know) at overhyped prices. is all.

oh, its that bad and more. crappy digital heap that takes style points
from the analog originals. 500 preset beats (total crap!) and space
for like 50 of yr own beats. isn't that backwards!? the "filter" on it is
terrible. bad midi implimentation.. it goes on and on. oh god, the
groovbox is utter crap. yes, ive spent a good long while playing with them
to know for sure.

their cool fopr really overproduced sounding R&B beats tho. hahah

mike

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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 15:12:26 +0100
From: "Kurt.Verweire" 
Subject: Re: someone's selling Blue Day/Slowdive stuff

Hi,
it was indeed the address you mentioned, but unfortunately, he sold the
items I wanted.
Anyway, thanks for the address...
Bye,
Kurt

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