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Today's Topics:
	 Master-less soundtracks
	 re:  Pale Saints
	 mouthbreathers...durutti column
	 Re: durutti column
	 state of grace
	 Re: durutti column
	 Re: durutti column
	 Grimble Grumble
	 Mojave3 in Texas?
	 Re: Grimble Grumble

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Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 02:33:55 -0400 (EDT)
From: Michael Gilham 
Subject: Master-less soundtracks

On Thu, 30 Apr 1998, Lorraine Lelis wrote:

> > > sight of you:  cd__comforts of madness.
> > > anyone see 'em play it live with colleen singing?
> > > sounded pretty good.  saw it at 'all virgos are mad'

> eugh!  i was so mad when she did that, because it's ian's song.  

Ian sang and played bass on the song.  But, does that make it solely his?
	Why would ya be mad at Graeme and Chris for playing a song they
wrote?
	I understand where you're coming from;  but I think it was
great they did that:  it was just a fun song for 'em to do live; and great
for us unlucky ones that never got to see Ian sing it! :-(

sorry, i was just not a fan of that incarnation of the pale saints. > 

I feel SLOW BUILDINGS is very good!  The band were brilliant live in
support of that album!
	I miss them! :-)

love,
michael

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Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 02:56:34 -0400 (EDT)
From: Michael Gilham 
Subject: re:  Pale Saints

On Tue, 28 Apr 1998, Lisa Johnson wrote:

> I guess I'm partial to the Pale Saints recordings with Ian Masters,
> they're a bit more complex and varied in their sound:
> Barging in on the Presence of God EP(1988)
> Half-Life EP (1990)
> In the Comforts of Madness LP (1990)
> ...am I forgetting anything???

Yeah!:  IN RIBBONS!!  It's got Masters' best work; and the rest of the
lot's!
	In my opinion, Pale Saints hit their stride on the Half-Life EP:
and it is no coincidence that this is the first recording to feature 
Meriel Barham on guitar, etc. ...

Since we're on the topic, anyone remember the original band/artist that
performed "Blue Flower", which Pale Saints did an incredible cover of on
the "Throwing Back The Apple" EP ? ...  Mazzy Star has also covered the
above song ...  I actually saw them [Mazzy] do it live, as well, I
believe, when they opened up for Cocteau Twins in 1990 ....

bon soir,
Michael

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Date: Sat, 02 May 1998 00:22:40 PDT
From: "R. Coefficient" 
Subject: mouthbreathers...durutti column

argh...i got on this list a few weeks ago, and i remember a friend of 
mine telling me how flame-prone and inane the radiohead (ick) list 
they're on is, and i remember smugly saying "must just be the  
music...the slowdive list seems pretty intelligent and polite" must have 
spoke too soon i guess....
..so im going to atlanta tomorrow, seeking more early 80s echobox stuff, 
whats a good place to start with the Durutti Column? i heard a sample of 
them today, and really liked it, must have more...
-pearson

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Date: Sat, 02 May 1998 11:07:42 +0300
From: Siim Kalder 
Subject: Re: durutti column

At 00:22 02.05.98 PDT, pearson wrote:
> ..so im going to atlanta tomorrow, seeking more early 80s echobox stuff, 
> whats a good place to start with the Durutti Column? i heard a sample of 
> them today, and really liked it, must have more...

Ahh, I've only heard one album by Durutti and it was great. Kinda reminded
me of Michael Brook, the guitar sounds... I can't even recall the name of
the album and I have the impression that Durutti Column have terribly lot
of stuff out? Would be great if someone spoke up on this one.

Siim K.
___________
siimk@ut.ee

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Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 11:28:48 +0200
From: "LOSING TODAY" 
Subject: state of grace

an other record to add to the State of Grace discography is the Smile 12"
with disco remixes

Smile (stratosphere mix)
Smile(edit)
Sea Saw

Stone  018

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Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 12:55:30 -0400 (EDT)
From: Michael Gilham 
Subject: Re: durutti column

On Sat, 2 May 1998, Siim Kalder wrote:

> At 00:22 02.05.98 PDT, pearson wrote:
>> ..so im going to atlanta tomorrow, seeking more early 80s echobox stuff, 
>> whats a good place to start with the Durutti Column? i heard a sample of 
>> them today, and really liked it, must have more...
> 
> Ahh, I've only heard one album by Durutti and it was great. Kinda reminded
> me of Michael Brook, the guitar sounds... I can't even recall the name of
> the album and I have the impression that Durutti Column have terribly lot
> of stuff out? Would be great if someone spoke up on this one.

First, The Durutti Column are only a bit like Michael Brook; though you
could put Vini Reilly in the same sort of genre as Brook, for sure ...
Though, here, I should say that I'm much more familiar w/ Durutti Column
than I am w/ Brook ....
	Yes THE DURUTTI COLUMN has many releases:  most were on FACTORY,
which, of course, is no more ...  Some of the stuff has been re-released
on FACTORY ONCE; whilst the first "official"(by catalog #) FACTORY
TOO ('94) release was a Durutti Column album "Sex and Death" [Fac CD 2.01] 
...

	The Durutti Column's albums are usually kind of eclectic - a
melange of stuff - usually interesting; but not necessarily that engaging
...  All their stuff which I've heard is, at least, worth listening to,
however. ...  As for a starting point, It's hard to say, I don't have all
the albums so I'm not the most qualified to comment ...  I would say just
buy anything you can find (preferrably used) and go from there!
	
	I have several albums by The DC, as well as "a FACTORY Sampler",
so if you require any more info on them just let me know ...

later
Michael

PS There's a great FACTORY Records discography web-site which is easy to
find [under Factory Communications], sorry:  do not know URL off-hand ...

PPS You guys in Atlanta:  did anyone catch the JAZZ BUTCHER gig
yesterday ??

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Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 09:07:51 -0700
From: "ryan cosebom" 
Subject: Re: durutti column

durutti column have many albums out.  most of which have recently been
reissued with extra tracks that, at the time of original release, were
either unavailable, or extremely rare.  i encourage you to get these.  'the
guitar and other machines' is a classic.  also, to be honest, his new album,
'sex and money', i think it is called, is pretty nice.
ps:  vinni reilly of durutti column was the guitarist/ co writer on
morrissey's viva hate album.  explains a lot, that one.
ryan.

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Date: Sat, 02 May 1998 23:10:16 +0200
From: Erik Soderstrom 
Subject: Grimble Grumble

Someone (Gary?) posted a long report from Terrastock earlier where
he mentioned Grimble Grumble as one of the bands to be on the lookout
for. I have since then tried to find *anything* with them on the net,
a simple soundclip, a home page, a review. Nothing.

I did find a mailorder which had these items:
 --
 LP   Grimble Grumble  Grimble Grumble       US ltd numbered slv of 500
 10"  Grimble Grumble  Only Point Of Entry   1st US 10" on Burnt Hair recs
 CD   Grimble Grumble  S/T                   US CD on Won't Go Flat
 --

And then today someone on the 4AD-L list posted:
 --
 Grimble Grumble:  one of the unexpected highlights of the festival,  this
 is a band to watch.  beautiful, dense, swirling guitar noise that brought
 slowdive, fsa and 'meddle'-era pink floyd to mind, grounded by a solid
 rhythm section, and just the right combination of chaos and melody for
 my taste.  their records are pretty fine, but don't miss these kids live.
 and very, very nice people to boot.
 --

Which really makes them essential "material". ;-) Anyone with any
info to share?

 //Erik 

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Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 18:07:57 -0400
From: eddiej7@juno.com (i'll be your future boy)
Subject: Mojave3 in Texas?

Hi folks,

Did anyone tape the show that Mojave3 did down in Texas?

I'd really love to hear that show. Anyone? If you got a
tape of it, let me know. We'll work something out.

Evan

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Date: Sat, 02 May 98 17:25:24 CST
From: Crios@dminet.davidson-marketing.com
Subject: Re: Grimble Grumble

Grimble Grumble is playing at Lounge Axe tonight in chicago.. Going to
try to make to the show... If I do will give report...

Crios

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