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Today's Topics:
	 RE: Grimble Grumble
	 RE: Grimble Grumble
	 FWD: RE: Who else thinks that...
	 RE: Grimble Grumble
	 Re: Grimble Grumble
	 Re: Pale Saints
	 re:  Durutti Column, Blue Flower, and Grimble Grumble
	 re:  searching the archives
	 re: durutti
	 cds i found...and bought for me self
	 Re: Pale Saints
	 Re: Grimble Grumble
	 Re: cds i found...and bought for me self

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Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 17:10:15 -0700
From: Travis Rust 
Subject: RE: Grimble Grumble

I think I saw Grimble Grumble open for Windy and Carl a few weeks ago.  If 
this was the band then they were pretty cool.  I went to the show only 
having heard of Windy and Carl.  They have that same wall of reverb sound 
but maybe a bit more upbeat at times.  Very much like Just For A Day. 
However, this may have been a different band as I never saw a flyer.  I 
will find out.

Travis is spinning

> Someone (Gary?) posted a long report from Terrastock earlier where
> he mentioned Grimble Grumble as one of the bands to be on the lookout
> for. I have since then tried to find *anything* with them on the net,
> a simple soundclip, a home page, a review. Nothing.

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Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 20:20:59 -0500
From: travis salisbury 
Subject: RE: Grimble Grumble

> I think I saw Grimble Grumble open for Windy and Carl a few weeks ago.  If 
> this was the band then they were pretty cool.  I went to the show only 
> having heard of Windy and Carl.  They have that same wall of reverb sound 
> but maybe a bit more upbeat at times.  Very much like Just For A Day. 
> However, this may have been a different band as I never saw a flyer.  I 
> will find out.

This was Grimble Grumble. They toured w/ W&C.

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Date: Sun, 03 May 1998 03:28:28 +0200
From: Erik Soderstrom 
Subject: FWD: RE: Who else thinks that...

(forwarded) From: David Poppie 

Speaking of which has anyone ever heard of Porcupine Tree?  They are
spacey/psych, a bit overproduced at times, but otherwise great!  Also
I have been out of the loop for awhile, has or will Mojave 3 be playing
in Chicago?  Can anyone help me out with this one?  Thanks!
David

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Date: Sun, 03 May 1998 03:30:26 +0200
From: Erik Soderstrom 
Subject: RE: Grimble Grumble

>> I think I saw Grimble Grumble open for Windy and Carl a few weeks ago. If 
>> this was the band then they were pretty cool.  I went to the show only 
>> having heard of Windy and Carl.  They have that same wall of reverb sound 
>> but maybe a bit more upbeat at times.  Very much like Just For A Day. 
>> However, this may have been a different band as I never saw a flyer.  I 
>> will find out.
>
> This was Grimble Grumble. They toured w/ W&C.

Even more wood on the fire then. :) It definitely sounds like a "must hear"
band - I'll roam the net again!

 //Erik

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Date: Sat, 02 May 1998 22:36:01 +0600
From: box-and-whiskers 
Subject: Re: Grimble Grumble

> LP   Grimble Grumble  Grimble Grumble       US ltd numbered slv of 500
> 10"  Grimble Grumble  Only Point Of Entry   1st US 10" on Burnt Hair recs
> CD   Grimble Grumble  S/T                   US CD on Won't Go Flat
> --
> Which really makes them essential "material". ;-) Anyone with any
> info to share?

yes, i think grimble grumble would appeal to most slowdive fans.  from what
i've heard, their music can be both 'shoegazey' (sorry michael) and
'droney', but tending more toward the former than the other less impressive
'michigan spacerock' bands with which they're generally included.  the
self-titled cd is a couple of very nice long tracks comprised of a few
shorter pieces, with parts that are more 'song-oriented' as well as
interludes of both melodic and dissonant guitar noise.  i've heard one of
songs on the 10" which is also quite good.  additionally, they've shared at
least two split 7"s with the azusa plane and windy and carl ('the enraptured
yuletide forty-five').  don't know anything about the lp though.  and as far
as info on the 'net goes, i haven't seen any either.

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Date: Sat, 02 May 1998 22:47:23 +0600
From: box-and-whiskers 
Subject: Re: Pale Saints

> Since we're on the topic, anyone remember the original band/artist that
> performed "Blue Flower",

it was originally done by a band called slaphappy in the 70s. 

> which Pale Saints did an incredible cover of on
> the "Throwing Back The Apple" EP ?

it's also included on the u.s. issue of _in ribbons_ (though not the u.k.
one).

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Date: Sun, 3 May 98 02:54:58 UT
From: "Lisa Johnson" 
Subject: re:  Durutti Column, Blue Flower, and Grimble Grumble

Re:  Durutti Column

I'm not sure which Durutti Column LP you'd associate with Mr. Brooks, but IMO 
the one to get is the 2nd LP "LC".  Gorgeous reverbed melodies and subdued 
vocals... it seems to have "aged" quite well in terms of 80's production 
qualities, whereas IMO some of Vini's later work seems to suffer a bit from 
plodding synth drums, etc.  This has been re-issued as a CD on Factory records 
(import only last time I checked), but the original packaging for the vinyl 
(if you can find it:  Factory release 44) is so nicely done, you'll be 
disappointed with the low quality of the re-issue (which apparently aims to 
celebrate the Factory label more than the original artist). 

Re:  "Blue Flower"

The Pale Saints' cover of "Blue Flower" is credited to Peter Blegvad and 
Anthony Moore, who worked together with (Dagmar Krause) in the early 70's 
British group Slapp Happy.  I'm not familiar with this particular song, but if 
you're a fan of Krause's Henry Cow/Art Bears material you should check out the 
1st Slapp Happy release "Acnalbasac Noom" on Cuneiform, which was recorded 
with members of Faust as a backing band.  Note:  this LP was later re-recorded 
with professional session musicians and released as "Casablanca Moon" (in 
place of the original Faust recordings which IMO are superior in every way).

FYO:  Slap Happy Humphrey is an unrelated Japanese trio (studio only)  who 
recorded a s/t album of 70's Japanese pop covers in 1996 for Bath Records 
(recommended) with the lead singer of the psych-rock band Angels 'n Heavy 
Syrup (also Japanese, also recommended, on Charnel House).

Re:  Grimble Grumble at Terrastock 2

I don't know if a website exists, but I did write the live review about 
Grimble Grumble a couple weeks ago, and yes, they are definitely worth 
checking out.  I haven't yet listened to their 12" LP, but the10" EP (which is 
supposedly similar in sound) is quite enjoyable if you're into FSA, Windy & 
Carl, etc.  However, their live performance at T2 expanded greatly on their 
studio recordings, incorporating elements of early Verve/Slowdive material 
into their ethereal wash, along with bursts of noise from a mini-moog.  They 
were simply much more dynamic live, and I found myself wishing they would 
incorporate some vocals to build on their lovely melodies, but apparently 
they're satisfied with layers of delayed guitar and ambient textures (for now 
anyway).

In addition to the releases Erik listed earlier, they have split 7-inch 
singles with Azuza Plane and Windy & Carl, both on Enraptured Records.

Peace, 
Gary

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Date: Sun, 3 May 98 04:24:54 UT
From: "Lisa Johnson" 
Subject: re:  searching the archives

I forgot to mention the need to include the search operator "AND" when 
searching through the Avalyn digests...
eg:  Jamboreebop AND Avalyn
This should help you find what you need!

Gary

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Date: Sat, 02 May 1998 22:18:58 PDT
From: "R. Coefficient" 
Subject: re: durutti

thanks to all who responded on the durutti column post, and for 
hopefully knowing who i was referring to with my negative remarks-(ie, 
not everyone)
well, i was in my fave store in atlanta, (wax n facts) and yes, the 
durutti column was there, about 3 cds of em..but they were all about 
19-30 dollars apiece, which i just couldnt pull the trigger on (ended up 
getting Dif Juz-"Who Says So"), seeing as how i hadnt yet heard them- 
but anyways- are those prices about right? this is a place i always used 
to see Pygmalion on for 25 dollars at- luckily, i waited to find it for 
10 later at a record show. 
i missed Pat Fish unfortunately. anyone know of any other shows in that 
area? about the closest thing i can think of now is the upcoming Sonic 
Youth/Pelt show...but i saw Pelt a week and a half ago, and it wasnt  t 
h a t  good..
-pearson


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Date: Sun, 3 May 1998 02:50:36 EDT
From: Catchbreez 
Subject: cds i found...and bought for me self

the boo radleys
adrenalin ep
boo forever ep

mazzy star
fad into you -single us

simon raymonde
blame some one else (great cd)

pulp
this is hardcore plus this is hard core remix promo 12"
i repurchased this cuz the record store i work at didnt get this promo

echo and the bunnymen
songs to learn and sing

suede
new generation (japan) used no less
the drowners

i am a collector so this was fun for me
great music to hear 
great things to have

steve

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Date: Sun, 3 May 1998 12:50:49 -0400 (EDT)
From: Lorraine Lelis 
Subject: Re: Pale Saints

and by the way, mazzy star also covered this song.

>> Since we're on the topic, anyone remember the original band/artist that
>> performed "Blue Flower",
> 
> it was originally done by a band called slaphappy in the 70s. 

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Date: Sun, 3 May 1998 18:04:41 -0700
From: mmoreno@ucla.edu (JJ Moreno)
Subject: Re: Grimble Grumble

At 11:10 PM 5/2/98 +0200, avalyn@lysator.liu.se wrote:

> And then today someone on the 4AD-L list posted:
> --
> Grimble Grumble:  one of the unexpected highlights of the festival,  this
> is a band to watch.  beautiful, dense, swirling guitar noise that brought
> slowdive, fsa and 'meddle'-era pink floyd to mind, grounded by a solid
> rhythm section, and just the right combination of chaos and melody for
> my taste.  their records are pretty fine, but don't miss these kids live.
> and very, very nice people to boot.
> --
>
> Which really makes them essential "material". ;-) Anyone with any
> info to share?

I saw them open up for windy & carl at spaceland in LA 2 or 3 weeks ago and
would definitely recommend them live. They seemed more interesting to me
than the drony sounds of Windy and Carl. I got the cd however and I just
don't recognize too much of what I heard live. Perhaps they mostly played
stuff off the 10" or something but the cd seems to be much less song
oriented than what I heard live. 

Someone mentioned that there's  songs w/ vocals on the cd, but I don't hear
any... it seems to lean a bit more towards the experimentally side of the
repetive drony ambient guitar thing... one of the tracks even has the sound
of a  phone left off the hook... pretty annoying. Another song has a similar
melody from the movie "close encounters of the third kind".

I'd recommend the cd for someone into the drony side of windy and carl...
but  don't really hear the slowdive comparison much. Live,  they came across
as a more ambient sounding Galaxie 500 w/ loud bursts of noisy guitar...
defintely fantastic. 

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Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 21:45:51 -0500
From: John Van 
Subject: Re: cds i found...and bought for me self

steve,

Did you buy all this stuff from Soundwaves??

I finished the slowdive Cd-R for you, I just need
to get it to you. Maybe next weekend...Are you gonna
be there? 

> the boo radleys
> adrenalin ep
> boo forever ep
> 
> mazzy star
> fad into you -single us
> 
> simon raymonde
> blame some one else (great cd)
> 
> pulp
> this is hardcore plus this is hard core remix promo 12"
> i repurchased this cuz the record store i work at didnt get this promo
> 
> echo and the bunnymen
> songs to learn and sing
> 
> suede
> new generation (japan) used no less
> the drowners
> 
> i am a collector so this was fun for me
> great music to hear
> great things to have
> 
> steve

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