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Today's Topics:
	 Re: bowery electric
	 Re: Grimble Grumble>
	 Labradford sound
	 Re: Grimble Grumble>
	 Re: Labradford
	  Beach Song, Take Me Down
	 Re: Beach Song, Take Me Down
	 Re: Grimble Grumble> 
	 Looking for Anthony Cornish...
	 cd -- trade/ sale
	 Re: Info on European Shoegazer Landmarks please
	 Re: Grimble Grumble>
	 rogerand brad where are you?
	 Re: bowery electric
	 Re: Grimble Grumble>
	 Re: Grimble Grumble>
	 bowery electric and labradford thanks
	 Re: FSA

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Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 17:00:01 -0400 (EDT)
From: butterfly mcqueen 
Subject: Re: bowery electric

> saw someone interested in bowery electric. Their first self-titled album 
> on kranky (1995) is absolutely wonderful. it has watery slowdive-esque 
> guitars, my bloody valentine-y coed vocals and exceptionally powerful 
> drums 'n bass. It is one of the best shoegaze albums in recent years. 

i agree that it's a shoegazing essential, but that album does not have any
d'n'b tracks on it, and neither does _beat_.  what the s/t album does have
is live drums influenced by hip-hop riddims.

beat is more minimal, varied, and mature than the first album.  it also sees
the integration of sampled beat loops into their sound.

vertigo, the remixes 2cd (the first cd is only 15 minutes long, for some
stupid reason -- they should have included the disjecta mix if they wanted
to do 2 cds), is pretty good.  

> and a recent 12" on happy go lucky records called "electric 
> sleep"/"blow up" which is real good drums'n bass. 

it's a good 12", and it shows a nice change in direction.  but god, they
have to work on their sequencing.  you can't just loop 2 bars for the whole
song!  :)

that all said, bowery electric is probably my favorite currently active band
by far.  i rip them off in more ways than one.  ;)

oh, i don't think anyone has mentioned the _drop_ ep, which came out before
the first album proper.  it's really heavy (and samey) stuff, in the vein of
loop (as in _a guilded eternity_).  pretty good, but not essential.  the two
full-lengths are quite essential, though.

; e.e.

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Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 23:38:30 +0200
From: palomar@mail.sendanet.es
Subject: Re: Grimble Grumble>

>>> I have a fanzine called "100.000 Luciernagas" (sorry, only in Spanish!).
>>> In issue no1 there are interviews with Windy & Carl, The Azusa Plane,
>>> Labradford, Damon & Naomi among many, many others (90 pages!)
>>> I hope to interview Grimble Grumble in issue nš2.
>>
>> Here's one who's interested - please send it along if you can!
>> Thanks!
>
> Well, I don't know any spanish... you were offering to post the
> english version of the Grimble Grumble interview, which was what
> I was replying to. ;)

I was offering to send the Grimble Grumble interview I'm going to do, but
it's not even made yet! ;o) I will  e-mail you when they answer, OK?

Love
Jorge

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Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 18:09:22 EDT
From: ALTONBARNS 
Subject: Labradford sound

In a message dated 06/05/98  17:40:25, you write:

<<
 Labradford's releases (and the new album by Pan-American) are both great.
 It's tough to describe their sound - you should give em a listen.
>>

I only have Two Labradford Albums:

I would purchase Mi Media Naranja.....as for there sound....hmmmm ..they
comprise of mainly two types of songs:

1)Ones that conjure up a funeral in the rain 

2)Dreamy slide guitar 

Ant

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Date: Thu, 07 May 1998 00:20:54 +0200
From: Erik Soderstrom 
Subject: Re: Grimble Grumble>

>> Well, I don't know any spanish... you were offering to post the
>> english version of the Grimble Grumble interview, which was what
>> I was replying to. ;)
>
> I was offering to send the Grimble Grumble interview I'm going to do, but
> it's not even made yet! ;o) I will  e-mail you when they answer, OK?
> Love
> Jorge

Sounds perfect! Thanks! (Can't wait to get my hands on their records!
It shouldn't be more than a week now.) I did receive the Colfax Abbey
album "Drop" today, but I've been too busy to manage to listen to it
yet, so that will have to wait 'til tomorrow. :-/

 //Erik

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Date: Wed, 06 May 1998 18:27:03 -0400
From: "Cox, Jonathan Campbell" 
Subject: Re: Labradford

I have never heard any of Labradford's music, but I do know that they are
based out of Richmond, VA (my original hometown) and that one of the guys
used to work at the best record store there (I saw a picture of them in AP
once, and I think one of them worked there based on looks).

Just had to give some props.  I mean what have RIchmond had since GWAR?

JC

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Date: Wed, 06 May 1998 19:27:58 -0400
From: "Cox, Jonathan Campbell" 
Subject:  Beach Song, Take Me Down

I was wondering about the validity of the listing in the Slowdive
discography at 

http://www.musicstack.com/slowdive/discog.html#comp

where it lists 

Sarah Compilation (????) - Beach Song, Take Me Down, Love Me.

I know on Erik's discog.  it lists a Sarah Comp with Eternal songs on it and
does not mention this one.  Was it left out or is it a mistake?  Are Beach
Song and Take Me Down only available on the flexi 7" or are they available
on CD anywhere?

thanks

JC

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Date: Thu, 07 May 1998 01:48:40 +0200
From: Erik Soderstrom 
Subject: Re: Beach Song, Take Me Down

At 19:27 1998-05-06 -0400, you wrote:
> I was wondering about the validity of the listing in the Slowdive
> discography at : http://www.musicstack.com/slowdive/discog.html#comp
> where it lists 
>
> Sarah Compilation (????) - Beach Song, Take Me Down, Love Me.
>
> I know on Erik's discog.  it lists a Sarah Comp with Eternal songs on it and
> does not mention this one.  Was it left out or is it a mistake?  Are Beach
> Song and Take Me Down only available on the flexi 7" or are they available
> on CD anywhere?

Aren't those songs the ones on the infamous "Creation Demo" made
in 1990? I have a copy of it, but I just don't remember which songs
were on it. I'll check though. Or if someone else has an answer
(which would mean I wouldn't have to tear down half the closet ;))?

Okay, I'm back. :) Yes, it sure was the songs on the Creation demo,
which was made out of tracks recorded for the Slowdive EP (at least
"Slowdive" and "Avalyn") - but McGee didn't want to release these
songs because "they sounded too much like MBV". Or so they say.

There is no Sarah compilation with these songs though.

 //Erik 

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Date: Thu, 07 May 1998 01:52:29 +0200
From: Erik Soderstrom 
Subject: Re: Grimble Grumble> 

At 08:47 1998-05-06 +0000, you wrote:
> ERik,
>  where did you find the cd grimble grumble?  From them?

No I just searched the net for their name and various formats
which resulted in several links. Try AltaVista with parameters:

+"Grimble Grumble" +10 +7 +LP +CD

and you should find several mailorders with it in their catalogs. 
Ajax records for example: http://www.ajaxrecords.com/index.html

 Cheers,
 //Erik

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Date: Wed, 06 May 1998 21:11:31 -0400
From: "Gordon Brown" 
Subject: Looking for Anthony Cornish...

Hi,

I am looking for Anthony Cornish from Australia. If he is out there could he
please get in touch with me.

Thanks

Gord

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Date: Wed, 06 May 1998 21:14:45 -0400
From: "Gordon Brown" 
Subject: cd -- trade/ sale

Hi,

Here is a list of some discs I'm looking to trade or sell. If you have any
of these that you would like to give up:

Galaxie 500 - Today (rykodisc)
Stereolab - Dots and Loops
Belle and Sebastian - If You're Feeling Sinister

you can choose any two from the below list for each. Thanks.

Stone Roses - self titled  $5
Smiths - Stangeways Here We Come $3.50
         Queen Is Dead  $4
         Lounder Than Bombs  $5
Morrissey - Southpaw Grammer $6
Suede - Coming Up  $6
(if buying postage is $3 then $1 thereafter)

thanks

Gord

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Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 18:32:25 -0700 (PDT)
From: midglider 
Subject: Re: Info on European Shoegazer Landmarks please

Hey Avalynsters,

I'll be backpacking through europe starting in London
on 5-21 and was wondering if people could suggest
cool places to visit in London and other major cities
for the blisspop-minded. Cool record stores and
upcoming shows info. would be much appreciated. (is
Mojave 3 playing this summer in Brit & continental
Europe?). 

Thanks,

(feel free to post or reply to me directly at
midglide@rocketmail.com)

-midglider

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Date: Wed, 06 May 1998 22:03:43 -0700
From: Richard Henson 
Subject: Re: Grimble Grumble>

I just bought a self titled Grimble Grumble disk in a greyish colored card
sleeze.  The linear notes make it seem as though the album is going to have
5 tracks, but, it only has two (of course, they're both very long).  Is
this right?  Does anyone know?  Is my cd screwed up or something?  Just
wondering.  Thanks,

richard

PS - the two tracks are both very, very good!

At 11:38 PM 5/6/98 +0200, you wrote:

>I was offering to send the Grimble Grumble interview I'm going to do, but
>it's not even made yet! ;o) I will  e-mail you when they answer, OK?
>Love
>Jorge

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Date: Wed, 06 May 1998 23:38:02 +0000
From: Brian Burgher 
Subject: rogerand brad where are you?

just wondering if you received your tapes yet,
												brian
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Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 00:19:35 EDT
From: Despair603 
Subject: Re: bowery electric

In a message dated 98-05-06 08:37:37 EDT, you write:

<<
 can anyone tell me anything about bowery electric and labradford? i have
 heard
 the names thrown about a bit, but i don't know anything about these two
 bands... advice anyone?
>>

Bowery Electric sounds a little bit like slowdive, but even more mellow. The
vocals are drowned out almost completely at times and are basically
uncomprehendable. The music is pretty slow and the guitars have alot of
effects on them. I`ve only heard them a few times cause my friend has their
forst two cd`s which I`ve been meaning to copy so I`d recomend giving them a
chance. Their first two records are on Kranky and I believe they have a new
one on Elektra which I havent heard.

I forgot excatly what Labradford is like. I`ve heard they their records vary
in sound so it`s hard to say but  from what I can remember they are pretty
dreamy and use alot of  little electronic sounds. I think.

hope that helps
Craig

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Date: Thu, 07 May 1998 09:41:25 -0700
From: Richard Henson 
Subject: Re: Grimble Grumble>

	I appreciate the list members who took the time to explain to me what was
going on with my Grimble Grumble CD, i'm sure the question seemed pretty
studid (but hey, i've gotten plenty of mispressed cd's).  
	Anyway, does anyone have the new Windy & Carl/ AMP split?  I think it's
limited to only a 1000, so if people want it, you should get it now ('cause
it smokes - well not really, but you know what i mean).
	I just got an indie shipment in yesterday and i got a whole bunch of cool
discs and i was just wondering if anyone had any info on any of the bands:
	1) Mazinga Phaser - i think this is a band from Texas, the album's called
abandinallhope and it's very, very (very) slowdivey (incredibly good cd;
all of you should get it if you haven't already).
	2) Mirza - this one's called anadromus and is part 7 of the bliss out
series (also very good; gets pretty minimal at points, but always manages
to pick up).
	3) Salamander - i don't know anything about this one except that it's only
got six songs and the last one is about 20 minutes long and doesn't really
sound a whole lot like the rest of the tracks (which are kinda Spacemen3-y;
the last one reminded me a little bit of Bark Psychosis "Scum" without
vocals).  Great, but not as great as the rest of these.
	That's about it i guess.  Oh yeah, I've got Stars of the Lid "the
ballasted orchestra," does the rest of their material sound like that one
or is it different?
	Sorry for writing so much.  Thanks,
					
richard

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Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 22:46:00 -0700
From: Mitch Bacigalupi 
Subject: Re: Grimble Grumble>

> I just bought a self titled Grimble Grumble disk in a greyish
> colored card sleeze.  The linear notes make it seem as though
> the album is going to have 5 tracks, but, it only has two (of
> course, they're both very long).  Is this right?  Does anyone
> know?  Is my cd screwed up or something?  Just wondering.  Thanks,
>
> richard
>
> PS - the two tracks are both very, very good!

The CD only has 2 tracks, but there are five songs.  They just run into
each other.  I asked this same question to the members of Grimble Grumble
when they were at Terrastock.  I thought that my CD was messed up too...  =)

Cheers,
-Mitch

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Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 15:58:50 +0100
From: davebp@postmaster.co.uk
Subject: bowery electric and labradford thanks

cool. thanks soooo much for all that bowery electric and labradford info.
i'm
fully informed now and cant wait to hear them. i started off thanking
people
individually for info, but that was taking soooo long cause everyone
emailed
me. so i've cheated and sent this to the list (sorry). but yeah, thanks
again,

dave

ps: does any one have any information on a band called flying saucer
attack?
this is the last one- promise! if anyone wants to know about any cool
australian stuff then let me know...

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Date: Thu, 07 May 1998 11:18:55 -0700
From: Richard Henson 
Subject: Re: FSA

	Whoa, are you joking!?!  Flying Saucer Attack is awesome!  FSA was the
first neo-shoegazer band (like bowery electric and labradford and all them)
and are definately not to be missed.  A good starting point (i think
anyway) would be to get either "distance" or "chorus" and also maybe "new
lands (the newest one)."  Everything by them is great, but these especially!  
					
richard

At 03:58 PM 5/7/98 +0100, you wrote:
>dave
>
>ps: does any one have any information on a band called flying saucer
>attack?
>this is the last one- promise! if anyone wants to know about any cool
>australian stuff then let me know...

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