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Today's Topics:
	 Re: FSA
	 sfa?
	 Re: FSA
	 Re: FSA
	 Monorail
	 Re: Monorail
	 Re: Monorail
	 Re: FSA
	 Re: FSA
	 Re: FSA
	 things i saw
	 difference engine and shiFt
	 Re[2]: Monorail
	 Re: difference engine and shiFt
	 Re: difference engine and shiFt
	 Re: difference engine and shiFt
	 Re: difference engine and shiFt
	 Re: Monorail
	 HipMetaphysic
	 Re: polar
	 Re: FSA
	 Re: polar/monorail
	 lsd
	 telescopes

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Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 17:12:35 +0100
From: davebp@postmaster.co.uk
Subject: Re: FSA

ive seen heaps of their cds around for a while now. well in australia,
anyway.
and i never actually got around to buying any. whenever i was about to buy
one,
i found a new pwei rarity to blow all my cash on, so i kinda just forgot
about
them. pwei is kinda a priority with me... it rules all...

but yeah, i saw a couple of fsa cd singles (or eps) the other day when i
was cd
shopping, so i figured i'd find out if they are worth the moolah. i'm
totally
skint at the moment (i just blew about £160 on the 12 cd ladies and
gentlemen... box set and a ticket to see new order at the phoenix festival)
so
now i'm getting really picky with my cd purchases at the moment (well until

next months pay cheque anyway). i've been buying anything that catches my
eye
for most of the time i have been here in london. but now i can only afford
to
be really choosey... doh!

so yeah, any info on fsa, labradford (thanks already), bowery electric
(thanks
already), main or codeine would be totally cool and received with much
gratitude...

|  Whoa, are you joking!?!  Flying Saucer Attack is awesome!  FSA was the
| first neo-shoegazer band (like bowery electric and labradford and all them)
| and are definately not to be missed.  A good starting point (i think
| anyway) would be to get either "distance" or "chorus" and also maybe "new
| lands (the newest one)."  Everything by them is great, but these especially!
|
|       richard

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Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 17:18:33 +0100
From: davebp@postmaster.co.uk
Subject: sfa?

are the super furry animals (SFA) the dyslexic cousins of flying saucer
attack
(FSA)? or the dyslexic, crappy typing version of asian dub foundation
(ADF)? or
all fools day (AFD)?

yep, it's another very long, very boring day here at camp dave...

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Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 19:20:38 +0200
From: palomar@mail.sendanet.es
Subject: Re: FSA

> Whoa, are you joking!?!  Flying Saucer Attack is awesome!  FSA was the
> first neo-shoegazer band (like bowery electric and labradford and all them)
> and are definately not to be missed.  A good starting point (i think
> anyway) would be to get either "distance" or "chorus" and also maybe "new
> lands (the newest one)."

FSA have lost magic since Rachel left "the band" -well, now it's
David solo project-. The best album is "Further" -no discussions admited!-
The way they use folky inspiration -Nick Drake/Tim Buckley- and mix it with
noisy frecuences is marvellous. Try to get also "Beach Red Lullaby", a 7"
from Planet Records -cool label-. Rachel is now in Movietone; other
beautiful band. Any fans out there?


> Everything by them is great,

Not everything. There's no comparison posible between "Further" and "In
Search of Spaces" -boooring-

Love
Jorge

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Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 13:39:21 -0400 (EDT)
From: butterfly mcqueen 
Subject: Re: FSA

i dunno about fsa being neo-shoegazer -- their stuff is not band-oriented
like most shoegaze is.  definite start w/ either further, chorus, or new
lands.  in search of spaces, their live cd on corpus hermeticum, is a waste
of money.  but their more recent [instrumental] output like the goodbye ep
and sally free and easy, not to mention the tele:funken remix project, are
pretty nice as well if you have a thing for minimal guitar drone -- some
very nice textures but hardly songs in the shoegaze sense.  i think he's
doing fine without rachel -- she's got a good thing going w/ movietone anyway.

>Try to get also "Beach Red Lullaby", a 7" from Planet Records -cool label-. 

good luck trying to find this for less than $20, though!  "beach red
lullaby" appears on chorus, anyway; probably my favorite song on there.

; e.e.

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Date: Thu, 07 May 98 13:13:19 CST
From: Crios@dminet.davidson-marketing.com
Subject: Monorail

Can anybody tell me about The group Monrail... I picked up that
disk "Solutions and Remedies" from Daniel and I really like them... 

Crios

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Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 14:19:31 -0400 (EDT)
From: butterfly mcqueen 
Subject: Re: Monorail

> Can anybody tell me about The group Monrail... I picked up that
> disk "Solutions and Remedies" from Daniel and I really like them... 

monorail is listee mike p (aka fourhead) and a girl named danielle (i
think).  i heard an early early version of "she likes to sail" and it blew
me out of the water even with its mere 1:30 length.  gotta get my hands on
that comp.  hopefully mike can chime in and pimp his humble self on this
one....

; e.e.

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Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 19:34:09 +0100
From: davebp@postmaster.co.uk
Subject: Re: Monorail

unless i'm mistaken, this discussion was had fairly recently. there is a
british band called monorail. but i suppose that this is a different
monorail... is it an american of british cd?

| Can anybody tell me about The group Monrail... I picked up that disk
| "Solutions and Remedies" from Daniel and I really like them...

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Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 14:08:59 -0500
From: lumiflex 
Subject: Re: FSA

> in search of spaces, their live cd on corpus hermeticum, is a waste
> of money.

is not! i quite enjoy that cd, you monkey brain.

> but their more recent [instrumental] output like the goodbye ep
> and sally free and easy, not to mention the tele:funken remix project, are
> pretty nice as well if you have a thing for minimal guitar drone -- some
> very nice textures but hardly songs in the shoegaze sense.  i think he's
> doing fine without rachel -- she's got a good thing going w/ movietone
> anyway.

yeah i agree...the new[est] lp, _new lands_ or whatever, really grew on me
and now i think it's fantastic.

j

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Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 12:19:53 -0700 (PDT)
From: Gage Crump 
Subject: Re: FSA

anyone heard the first movietone s/t album? is it great? vinyl only?
anyway to get a copy? (i love "day and night"!) -gage

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Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 14:41:32 +0000
From: "wade@tapehouse.com" 
Subject: Re: FSA

Just listening by pure coincidence to FSA's album with their cover 
version of Suede's drowners.  That song rocks!!!

wade

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Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 13:53:21 -0700 (PDT)
From: MGH GI UNIT 
Subject: things i saw

I saw these and thought someone might be interested. The prices seem
decent for the web. These are just a few things that I thought people
on this list might be interested in.


www.iye.com

New cds
5934 | VARIOUS ARTISTS | THINK I'M GETTING THE HANG OF IT | 4AD | 7625
| 9 track promo comp in beautiful cardboard slipcase: Lisa Gerard,
Tarnation, RHP, K Smith, Scheer, Air Miami. | $10.00
5791 | VARIOUS ARTISTS | SIP MORE TEA! | Beggars Banquet | T-Bag-3 |
17 track promo: Seely, Bowery Electric, Long Fin Killie, Magoo, Groop
Dogdrill, Beekeepers, 6 by 7, Comet Gain. | $8.00 |
5892 | VARIOUS ARTISTS | SMITHS IS DEAD | Inrockuptibles | 674524 | 10
track import tribute with Boo Radleys, High Llamas, Trash Can
Sinatras, Billy Bragg, Bis, Divine Comedy, Supergrass. | $20.00 |
5772 | SPIRITUALIZED | I THINK I'M IN LOVE | Arista | 3447 | Promo CD
with 4 versions: Radio and Album versions, 2 Chemical Bros. remixes.
PHOTO | $10.00 |

vinyl
915 | Cocteau Twins | Heaven Or Las Vegas | 4AD 0012 | M/M | English
Pressing. | 10 |
983 | Gus Gus | Purple (Midnight In Reykjavik) | 4AD 9220 | M/M | 9:52
version on both sides. Blank white cover. | 8 |
964 | His Name Is Alive | Home Is In Your Head | 4AD CAD 1013 | M/M |
English pressing. | 10 |
965 | His Name Is Alive | Stars On E.S.P. | 4AD CAD 6010 | M/M |
English pressing. | 10 |

rock cds
5295 | AUTUMNS | THE ANGEL POOL | Risk | 24922 | | $7.00 |
5294 | AUTUMNS | SUICIDE AT STRELL PARK | Risk | 24902 | 4 track EP. |
$3.00 |
1146 | DRUGSTORE | DRUGSTORE | Honey | 828-607 | | $6.00 |
1313 | DUDLEY, ANNE | ANCIENT AND MODERN | Echo | 000323 | | $6.00 |
156 | RIDE | LIVE LIGHT | Mutiny | 80002 | | $5.00 |
3061 | RIDE | TARANTULA | Sire | 61893 | | $5.00 |
1688 | SAKAMOTO, RYUICHI | BEAUTY | Virgin | 91294 | | $5.00 |
1689 | SAKAMOTO, RYUICHI | NEO GEO | Epic | 40994 | | $5.00 |
3916 | SAKAMOTO, RYUICHI | SMOOCHY | Milan | 35789 | | $8.00 |
1923 | ULTRA VIVID SCENE | ULTRA VIVID SCENE | 4AD | 47485 | 16
delicious tracks of electro pop. | $5.00 |

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Date: Thu, 07 May 1998 14:25:54 PDT
From: "john kupchik" 
Subject: difference engine and shiFt

       i was wondering if anyone has heard difference engine's recent 
album "calidad" on bedazzled records. i have their first ep "breadmaker" 
on la-di-da records and i love it. all you people should buy it 
immediately, though i fear it may be out of print (it's from 94).
      Also, what the heck happened to shiFt? i have their immaculate ep 
"a folding sieve"(1994) but since then i've heard nothing. I saw 
somewhere recently they had (i think) a new 7" called "on two 
feet"/"soothed" but is this really them or is this the crappy major 
label band shift? i can't tell you how sick i felt after i bought an 
album called "spacesuit" by what i thought was my beloved shiFt from 
austin, texas, only to be horrified at the ugliness emanating from my 
speakers. this was no shiFt of mine! it's utter trash! they should put 
warning labels on the cd or something. anyway, did they break up or 
what?thanks to anyone with info.

john
p.s. does anyone else have smashing orange's first ep on native uk?
anyone who hasn't heard this self-titled 7 song disc is missing out on 
one of the pioneering dream-pop creations ( it came out in early 1991, 
before loveless, although it doesn't really sound much like loveless. 
alittle like ride/slowdive, but unique all its own). FIND THIS 
IMMEDIATELY!!! trust me, you'll all love it. 

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Date: Thu, 07 May 98 17:35:05 CST
From: Crios@dminet.davidson-marketing.com
Subject: Re[2]: Monorail

I think the monorail that I'm talking about is American because The address
for them was ... ummmm... I forgot... but I do know it was somerwhere in
the US...

Crios

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Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 18:16:26 -0500 (CDT)
From: James W Weber 
Subject: Re: difference engine and shiFt

well because there is a really obnoxious hardcore band called
shift signed to a pretty large label, capitol i think, they changed their
name and are now called should.  i believe they have a new song on a
compilation cd coming out.

james

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Date: Thu, 07 May 1998 19:39:34 -0500
From: erik 
Subject: Re: difference engine and shiFt

> Also, what the heck happened to shiFt? i have their immaculate ep 
> "a folding sieve"(1994) but since then i've heard nothing. I saw 
> somewhere recently they had (i think) a new 7" called "on two 
> feet"/"soothed" but is this really them or is this the crappy major 
> label band shift? i can't tell you how sick i felt after i bought an 
> album called "spacesuit" by what i thought was my beloved shiFt from 
> austin, texas, only to be horrified at the ugliness emanating from my 
> speakers. this was no shiFt of mine! it's utter trash! they should put 
> warning labels on the cd or something. anyway, did they break up or 
> what?thanks to anyone with info.

I am from Austin and have been trying to keep tabs on this brilliant band as
well. First of all, they never play live, because everytime I saw the name
"shift" it was with some punk band at Emo's and I said no-way!!!  Well, I
guess because of all of the confusion, they decided to change their name to
"should".
They are on the solutions and remedies comp, but I have not heard it. The
"own two feet" is a very good 7-inch. It is a good progression from the
early ep. They should have their new album out very soon. My sources say by
the end of this month. I can't wait.  Please everybody buy this. I know
there are a lot of reccomendations on this list, but if you like slow music
like bedhead and shoegazey stuff, you will fall in love with "a folding sieve".

bumblebeetuna,

erik

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Date: Thu, 07 May 1998 17:41:12 -0700
From: aaron 
Subject: Re: difference engine and shiFt

RE: new difference engine

yeah, i got the cd from Daniel.  it's nothing like their old album.  For
one thing, the male singer left some time ago so the female singer does
almost everything on this one, besides a bit of male backing.  it's good
pop.  They shed their old sound.  Good for them.

aaron

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Date: Thu, 07 May 1998 17:47:51 -0700
From: aaron 
Subject: Re: difference engine and shiFt

> p.s. does anyone else have smashing orange's first ep on native uk?
> anyone who hasn't heard this self-titled 7 song disc is missing out
> on one of the pioneering dream-pop creations ( it came out in early
> 1991, before loveless, although it doesn't really sound much like 
> loveless. alittle like ride/slowdive, but unique all its own). FIND
> THIS IMMEDIATELY!!! trust me, you'll all love it. 

I don't like it much.  I had heard before I got it that it was the one
to get for the swirly sound and yeah, they do have some of the good
kinds of sound from that period but there's just something about
smashing orange i don't like.  it just doesn't fit together the way i
like it.  I rank them among the shoegaze imposters, like, uh, that one
group from california (heh, that's specific).

aaron

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Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 19:58:43 -0500 (EST)
From: LIQUID_FMO907 
Subject: Re: Monorail

Talking  about  that  comp. ..  i really  enjoy listening  Polar "
Michiko",  very  nice  song!!!    Any  info  about  POlar??

f

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Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 00:27:46 -0700
From: "ryan cosebom" 
Subject: HipMetaphysic

if you like the 5ep, or gusgus, or sweettrip, etc...
check out the online flyer for this show in san francisco...
http://home.pacbell.net/cosboom/hip.html

it's only two dollars to come and you will walk away with three new favorite
bands
haha.

ryan

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Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 08:34:17 EDT
From: M242557sm 
Subject: Re: polar

polar is from gainesville, one of their members has an a.o.l. account, if you
want to get in touch with them, she is very nice!! 
they play once a week almost, from what i understand, but i have never gotten
the chance to drive up and see them.. 
although, i am told that claire de lion is going to release some kind of ep or
cd for them in the near future.. if you want to get in touch with kristen from
polar, email me priavtely and ill give you her email address.. 
take care. 
shane. 

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Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 19:11:23 +0200
From: palomar@mail.sendanet.es
Subject: Re: FSA

>anyone heard the first movietone s/t album? is it great?

It is great. Get it. Soooo beautiful.

vinyl only?

No, cd as well

Love
Jorge

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Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 18:16:07 -0400 (EDT)
From: mike p 
Subject: Re: polar/monorail

> polar is from gainesville, one of their members has an a.o.l. account, if you
> want to get in touch with them, she is very nice!! 
> they play once a week almost, from what i understand, but i have never gotten
> the chance to drive up and see them.. 

hi

this is mike of monorail. polar are friends of mine, they used to play
shows weekly (very quiet and folky compared to mechiko tho), but they
played their last show ever last week. one of the ghuitarrists is moving
to chicago, but they intend to keep recording. they did a LP length tape
thats similar to michiko (its one of the songs) but i don't know how to
get it other than if someone in the band dubs it for you.. their all busy
people tho, so you didn't hear that from me:) their recent material is
VERY mojave 3. bit more effected still tho. 

sine there was mention of it on the list.. monorail is me and, erm,
however im working with at the moment. ive got some upcoming stuff.. watch
for darla comps in the next few months. and a mini LP on fuzzybox.. um,
when its done. 2 months?

mike

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Date: Sat, 9 May 98 03:55:16 UT
From: "Lisa Johnson" 
Subject: lsd

One more quick question:

I just aquired a copy of Love Spirals Downward's "Ever" (for $1!) and must say 
I'm quite impressed!  Gorgeous vocals and melodies without the (IMO) 
oppressive gothic vibe which plagues many Projekt releases... apologies to 
anyone offended by that!  My question:  how does "Ardor" compare to the lovely 
"Ever"?

Peace,
Gary

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Date: Sat, 9 May 98 03:49:12 UT
From: "Lisa Johnson" 
Subject: telescopes

I sense this has been asked before, but here goes:

Are there any Telescopes' fans on this list who could suggest which EP of 
theirs is worth tracking down?

I've listened to the S/T LP, and the Flying EP from 1991, and found both of 
them enjoyable, yet ultimately lacking that elusive something.  Both the Taste 
collection and Dead Girl Walking EP circa 1989 sound like a noisy garage 
band... a different sound entirely from the aforementioned dreampoppish 
Creation releases.  Which leaves the Telescopes EP, Everso EP, and Celeste 
EP's from the period in between (90-91on Creation)... can anybody 
describe/recommend these EP's to a Slowdive/Ride(early!)/MBV fan?

Any response appreciated,
Gary

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