The Avalyn Digest
Vol.98 #077
May 12th, 1998
http://www.lysator.liu.se/~chief/avalyn.html
Today's Topics:
Re: lsd
Re: lsd
Re: telescopes
Bardo Pond tour dates
The Verve
Re: lsd
Re: Bardo Pond tour dates
vinyl in stock
*New* Mojave 3 MP3 available
Re: telescopes
new kev shields mix
drop nineteens
Slowdive...
Slowdive...
Re: Slowdive...
Re: new kev shields mix
beach song/take me down
Eternal - Glass Arcade
Re: telescopes
Re: drop nineteens
Re: drop nineteens
Re: drop nineteens
Re: telescopes
Re: beach song/take me down
Re: Slowdive...
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Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 00:12:42 EDT
From: Catchbreez
Subject: Re: lsd
ever is my favorite
the idylls
then ador
you should also get the "side ways forrest"
idllys is like cocteau twins bluebell knool
ador is more like victorialand
but the are brilliant
i love them
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Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 02:45:26 -0400
From: Andy McMillan
Subject: Re: lsd
Gary wrote:
> I just aquired a copy of Love Spirals Downward's "Ever" (for $1!) and must
> say I'm quite impressed! Gorgeous vocals and melodies without the (IMO)
> oppressive gothic vibe which plagues many Projekt releases... apologies to
> anyone offended by that! My question: how does "Ardor" compare to the
> lovely "Ever"?
How odd. I too picked up "Ever" on a whim for $1.99 and promptly fell
in love. Just like Gary, I figured that--being on Projekt--it couldn't
be all that bad and was pleasantly suprised by the lack of obvious goth
trappings.
I have since also found "Ardor" for $6.00 and it's quite good as well.
Just like everybody else, I tend to favor the first recording I hear by
a band, but Ardor is really, really good. I would say it was a tad less
electronic than Ever, with a bigger emphasis on the vocals. I think a
couple of the songs might even be duets (anyone?)
How does the first record compare to these two? Anybody seen them live?
LSD kick Loveliescrushing's ass by the way,
Andy
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Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 00:06:24 -0700 (PDT)
From: Gage Crump
Subject: Re: telescopes
celeste CD is their best! very beautiful. most recommended. (if you find
an extra copy on CD can you sell it to me, thanks?) yeah , its great!
-gage
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Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 15:30:28 +0200
From: Erik Soderstrom
Subject: Bardo Pond tour dates
Just noticed the new tour date list for Bardo Pond at Matador,
which sadly does not include any dates in Europe, but for the
lucky people on the right side of the pond...
Bardo Pond
6/5 - WAshington - Metro
6/6 - Carrboro NC - Cat's Cradle
6/7 - W. Columbia - New Brookland Tav.
6/8 - Orlando - Saphire Supper club
6/9 - Jacksonville FL - Stripmind
6/11 - Atlanta - Point
6/12 - Memphis - Barrister's
6/13 - Oklahoma City - VZD's
6/14 - Dallas TX - Trees
6/15 - Austin - Electric Lounge
6/17 - Albuquerque - Launchpad
6/19 - Los Angeles - Fold @ chorus
6/20 - San Francisco - Bottom of Hill
6/22 - Portland - Satyricon
6/23 - Seattle - Crocodile
6/25 - VAncouver - Starfish
6/26 - Calgary - Night Gallery
6/27 - Edmonton - Rebar
6/29 - Saskatoon - Amigo's
6/30 - Winnipeg - Pyramid
7/2 - Madison - UW Madison Terrace
7/17 - New York - mercury
//Erik
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Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 12:21:06 -0500
From: Andrew Freeman
Subject: The Verve
Anybody else got tickets? I got mine this morning for the Houston, TX
show! Can't wait. It was kind of funny, they were selling SPICE GIRLS
tickets the same time. Still can't believe that. At least it wasn't
hanson tickets.
Although, I do like the Industrial mix of MMMMBop. Just kidding.
Andrew
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Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 14:15:57 -0600 (MDT)
From: michael maes
Subject: Re: lsd
ardor is very very nice... must get it,,,,,,,
MUST
> One more quick question:
>
> I just aquired a copy of Love Spirals Downward's "Ever" (for $1!) and must
> say I'm quite impressed! Gorgeous vocals and melodies without the (IMO)
> oppressive gothic vibe which plagues many Projekt releases... apologies to
> anyone offended by that! My question: how does "Ardor" compare to the
> lovely "Ever"?
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Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 16:46:07 -0600
From: Brad Nicholson
Subject: Re: Bardo Pond tour dates
At 03:30 PM 09/05/98 +0200, you wrote:
> Just noticed the new tour date list for Bardo Pond at Matador,
> which sadly does not include any dates in Europe, but for the
> lucky people on the right side of the pond...
Thanks for the info Erik! Swervedriver and now Bardo Pond, all in the same
week. I can hardly wait.
brad.
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Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 04:46:24 EDT
From: Catchbreez
Subject: vinyl in stock
my store recently got the following slowdive
slowdive ep
holding our breath
in mind (mixes)
these are all vinyl
15.99
morningrise
in mid (mixes)
cds
9.99
e mail me
we special order imports and i can get just about anything
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Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 11:25:04 +0200 (MET DST)
From: Erik Soderstrom
Subject: *New* Mojave 3 MP3 available
The nice Richard Holtzman at 4AD has put up a song from the
forthcoming album through FTP with permission from Neil. Here
are the details:
Song: Give What You Take
Size: 4.3MB (MP3) and 531kb (RealAudio)
Length: 4.35 minutes
MP3 Specifics: 128kbps, 22kHz
Highs: There's a really disted electric guitar in there. :)
Lows: If Rachel is singing, it's backing vocals only.
American FTP: ftp://ftp.evo.org/pub/4ad-sounds/
European FTP: ftp://ftp.wolfson.ox.ac.uk/pub/4ad-sounds/
You can also find the Hope Blister's "Sweet Unknown" (the
Cranes cover - which is excellent) there (if they haven't
removed it seconds ago).
//Erik
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Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 11:21:02 +0100
From: davebp@postmaster.co.uk
Subject: Re: telescopes
| I sense this has been asked before, but here goes:
|
| Are there any Telescopes' fans on this list who could suggest which EP of
| theirs is worth tracking down?
yeah...
| I've listened to the S/T LP, and the Flying EP from 1991, and found both
of
| them enjoyable, yet ultimately lacking that elusive something.
yeah. i know what you mean... they are pretty good though. like your
average
everyday dreamy pop band. but with sitars and a definite ethnic
undertone...
listen, it's there. to me, that sets them apart from all the others... but
then
thats just what yanks my chain...
| Both the Taste
| collection and Dead Girl Walking EP circa 1989 sound like a noisy garage
| band...
shit yeah!!! crap is another word i like to use when describing that
stuff...
it sounds like really bad european metal... all that bullshit about the
perfect
needle and the sweet release of death and all that crap... god i was sooooo
dissapointed when i found the first album... but it does have some good
moments
of noise...
| a different sound entirely from the aforementioned dreampoppish
| Creation releases.
yeah. and thank god for that...
| Which leaves the Telescopes EP, Everso EP, and Celeste
| EP's from the period in between (90-91on Creation)... can anybody
| describe/recommend these EP's to a Slowdive/Ride(early!)/MBV fan?
ok. there is also precious little, but i guess thats the telescopes ep that
you
are referring to... i've got it but i haven't heard it yet... everso and
celeste are great. well, i like them. i wont say that they are better or
worse
than any of their other stuff, but they are the ones that i prefer the
most.
there is a really long version of celeste on the ep. and that is really
cool.
they just sound the best. they dont sound any more like any one particular
band
(mbv/ride/slowdive/swervedriver/anyone), they just sound good and solid...
really well made...
god i sound like a screwdriver salesman...
| Any response appreciated,
tis nice to be appreciated,
dave
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Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 11:48:54 +0100
From: davebp@postmaster.co.uk
Subject: new kev shields mix
has anyone heard the kevin shields remix of coming up roses by curve???
i'm curious to know whether it was just me or did everyone else think that
he didn't do anything useful at all to the original song... it is pretty
much the same song... ie: a crap remix...
and for awesome remix of the month my recommendation goes to:
the primal scream remix of mathar by indian vibes... good stuff!!! good
stuff indeed!!!
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Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 12:00:07 +0100
From: davebp@postmaster.co.uk
Subject: drop nineteens
i was in a shop the other day and i picked up an album called delaware by a
band called drop nineteens for £3... has anyone heard this? its great...
not unlike dream pop, but with more beef... kinda like saint johnny but a
bit morey noise/effectsey (a la mbv). but the main gem of this cd is track
three... winona. jeeeeeezus h christ. love that song... does anyone know
anything about drop nineteens? do they have a web page or does anyone have
the winona single that they want to swap/ sell???
dave
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Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 15:24:48 -0400
From: "Gordon Brown"
Subject: Slowdive...
Hi,
If anyone has a copy of the cd Dots and Loops by Stereolab that they would
like to get rid of I could send you 1 Maxell HGX video with the following
Slowdive boot videos on it in exchange:
*Lee's Palace, Toronto 21.05.94 60 A- (handheld camera--from side of
stage)
* VK, Brussels 12.11.91 60 A-- (handheld camera -- front centre -- some
blocked shots)
Thanks
Gord
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Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 10:00:30 -0400
From: "Gordon Brown"
Subject: Slowdive...
Hi,
Sorry to post this again, but I was having some email troubles and was not
sure it got through. If you tried to respond to this last time I apologize.
You can also contact me at sp_6@hotmail.com
One thing else I have that I forgot to mention that might be of interest is
a 1 hr His Name Is Alive video which features a segment of ESP Summer (w/
Ian Masters) preforming in a record store.
thanks for everyones time.
gord
Hi,
If anyone has a copy of the cd Dots and Loops by Stereolab that they would
like to get rid of I could send you 1 Maxell HGX video with the following
Slowdive boot videos on it in exchange:
*Lee's Palace, Toronto 21.05.94 60 A- (handheld camera--from side of
stage)
* VK, Brussels 12.11.91 60 A-- (handheld camera -- front centre -- some
blocked shots)
Thanks
Gord
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Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 07:17:22 +0000
From: Kryshna Avina
Subject: Re: Slowdive...
Gordon Brown wrote:
> Hi,
>
> If anyone has a copy of the cd Dots and Loops by Stereolab that they would
> like to get rid of I could send you 1 Maxell HGX video with the following
> Slowdive boot videos on it in exchange:
>
> *Lee's Palace, Toronto 21.05.94 60 A- (handheld camera--from side of
> stage)
>
> * VK, Brussels 12.11.91 60 A-- (handheld camera -- front centre -- some
> blocked shots)
Dude, I'll do it....send me your info...
-Krys
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Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 18:25:01 +0200
From: Erik Soderstrom
Subject: Re: new kev shields mix
At 11:48 1998-05-11 +0100, you wrote:
> has anyone heard the kevin shields remix of coming up roses by curve???
>
> i'm curious to know whether it was just me or did everyone else think that
> he didn't do anything useful at all to the original song... it is pretty
> much the same song... ie: a crap remix...
It is a weird remix that's for sure, but still - it's pretty cool IMO.
Very different from the original - spaced out, and the repetitive "can
you feel" part (three or so of the six minutes) is hypnotic. I'm not
sure if I like the ultra-disted guitar though - my ears bleed listening
to it. :) The Danny Saber remix is extremely close to the original
version on the other hand.
//Erik
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Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 10:24:23 PDT
From: "john kupchik"
Subject: beach song/take me down
I was wondering, nay, PRAYING that someone on this list has the
beach song/take me down 7". i desperately NEED to hear this! Would
anyone be kind enough to tape it for me if i sent them the tape and
postage and all that? I could also tape some rare stuff for you and we
could do a sort of bootleg trade, i suppose. i have everything else
slowdive has put out, my bloody valentine's "ecstacy and wine" album, a
video bootleg of windy&carl, bowery electric and E.A.R. ( from a concert
in pitts,penn in july 1996), and a bunch of other stuff. anyone at all
interested PLEASE e-mail me privately. (i don't sound too desperate, do
i?)
warm regards,
john
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Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 13:44:44 EDT
From: ALTONBARNS
Subject: Eternal - Glass Arcade
Hi
I have a CD copy of GLASS ARCADE (SARAH501CD) featuring:
ETERNAL - Sleep
ETERNAL - Breath
ETERNAL was CHRISTIAN SAVILLS band before SLOWDIVE....You can see where the
Slowdive sound came from.
Heres what I will trade for:
Blueboy - Speedboat (CD Album Japanese compilation)
Field Mice, The - Skywriting (CD Album import?)
Field Mice, The - Snowball (CD Album import)
Various - Engine Common (CD Album Sarah Compilation Sarah628CD)
Various - Battery Point (CD Album Sarah Compilation Sarah359CD)
Various - Air Balloon Road (CD Album Sarah Compilation Sarah545CD)
Various - Temple Cloud (SARAH compilation)
Various - La Rue Du Chat Qui Peche (SARAH Compilation)
Cheers
Ant
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Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 15:35:43 -0500 (CDT)
From: biz <1cc5776@unixstew.tstc.edu>
Subject: Re: telescopes
I bought the Celeste ep and returned it for credit at the music store...
it was nothing in comparison to the album I had heard (can't remember the
title of the album unfortunately) and may be jsut me but seems like would
be for more hardcore fans...
On Sat, 9 May 1998, Lisa Johnson wrote:
> I sense this has been asked before, but here goes:
>
> Are there any Telescopes' fans on this list who could suggest which EP of
> theirs is worth tracking down?
>
> I've listened to the S/T LP, and the Flying EP from 1991, and found both of
> them enjoyable, yet ultimately lacking that elusive something. Both the Taste
> collection and Dead Girl Walking EP circa 1989 sound like a noisy garage
> band... a different sound entirely from the aforementioned dreampoppish
> Creation releases. Which leaves the Telescopes EP, Everso EP, and Celeste
> EP's from the period in between (90-91on Creation)... can anybody
> describe/recommend these EP's to a Slowdive/Ride(early!)/MBV fan?
>
> Any response appreciated,
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Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 21:47:11 -0400 (EDT)
From: Michael Gilham
Subject: Re: drop nineteens
On Mon, 11 May 1998 davebp@postmaster.co.uk wrote:
> i was in a shop the other day and i picked up an album called delaware by a
> band called drop nineteens for £3... has anyone heard this? its great...
> not unlike dream pop, but with more beef... kinda like saint johnny but a
> bit morey noise/effectsey (a la mbv). but the main gem of this cd is track
> three... winona. jeeeeeezus h christ. love that song... does anyone know
> anything about drop nineteens? do they have a web page or does anyone have
> the winona single that they want to swap/ sell???
All I know about Drop 19s is that they're American and after first hearing
them I tried in vain for ages to find the release containing the song I'd
heard ... Maybe it was Winona - I dunno? Anyway, I really liked it;
though I heard something from a later release which wasn't as good ...
Sorry not to be able to add much to this; but hopefully there is someone
who can contribute more specific info about the once promising band :-)
cheers
--Michael
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Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 23:11:35 +0000
From: Brian Burgher
Subject: Re: drop nineteens
the drop nineteens had an ep that came from that albulm called your
aquarium I have it on tape.I also owned national coma but that was a
really baaaaad
albulm.poor follow up to deleware.seeing your message was like a blast
from the past I haven't listened to deleware in 2 years.anyway the ep
includes :1.my aquarium(second time around)
2.nausea
3.movie
4.mandy
5.my aquarium (albulm version)
Is this stuff hard to find now. I see d19's in used all the time in
philly.
brian
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Date: Mon, 11 May 98 22:33:57 -0000
From: SPACEboy
Subject: Re: drop nineteens
> All I know about Drop 19s is that they're American and after first hearing
> them I tried in vain for ages to find the release containing the song I'd
> heard ... Maybe it was Winona - I dunno? Anyway, I really liked it;
> though I heard something from a later release which wasn't as good ...
> Sorry not to be able to add much to this; but hopefully there is someone
> who can contribute more specific info about the once promising band :-)
All I can add here is that I know the bass player through a friend, and
he's now onto another project called Bake McBride in Boston. As far as
other members, I have no idea what they're doing. But the Drop19s as a
band haven't been together for many years. Shame.
-brian
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Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 11:46:30 +0100
From: davebp@postmaster.co.uk
Subject: Re: telescopes
| I bought the Celeste ep and returned it for credit at the music store...
| it was nothing in comparison to the album I had heard (can't remember the
| title of the album unfortunately) and may be jsut me but seems like would
| be for more hardcore fans...
funny, i loved celeste and everso and was really diappointed by the
album...
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Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 10:16:44 +0000
From: "wade@tapehouse.com"
Subject: Re: beach song/take me down
john,
e-mail me wade@tapehouse.com
I can help you out.
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Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 12:21:56 +0000
From: "wade@tapehouse.com"
Subject: Re: Slowdive...
Gordon,
I'll do that trade!!!!
e-mail me...
wade@tapehouse.com
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