The Avalyn Digest
Vol.98 #081
June 2nd, 1998
http://www.lysator.liu.se/~chief/avalyn.html
Today's Topics:
Unidentified subject!
blueshift signal
Re: blueshift signal
Re: blueshift signal
Mojave 3 News
Re: Did I mention...
Ocean Blue
Re: Ocean Blue
Re: Did I mention...
mp3s
stupid ass postmaster.co.uk
Re: Unidentified subject!
Re: mp3s
Re: Ocean Blue
Outside Your Room
SECRET SHINE
From the edge...
Mojave 3 - Give What You Take
blue day mp3
recommendations..
Re: recommendations..
Re: recommendations..
Short Mojave 3 news
From the edge...
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Date: Wed, 27 May 98 14:21:15 CST
From: Crios@dminet.davidson-marketing.com
Subject: Unidentified subject!
Imagine a ghost town.. all dusty and quiet.. the wind blowing... tumbleweeds...
not a soul around... silence...
and throw in some Slowdive, or what have you, if you feel like it...
Feelin' lonely
Crios
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Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 14:13:48 PDT
From: "john kupchik"
Subject: blueshift signal
hey,
has anyone else on this list heard blueshift signal? i have their
first album "seven natural scenes", their "halo" single ( which, i kid
you not, is one of THE best songs i've ever heard. it's a song that will
alter your very existence!) , and their wonderful "the waterside"ep. i
heard they have a newly released full-length lp but i've neither seen it
nor heard anything else about it. i know it must be great, because
everything else they've put out is great. they're rivaled only by windy
& carl in the current shoegaze scene.
warm regards,
john
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Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 18:51:40 EDT
From: Dalefriday@aol.com
Subject: Re: blueshift signal
yes, Ive heard blueshift signal......they were really good.... though I was
angry, seeing that my band has been called blueshift for the past year or so
and were pretty much shoegazing
dale
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Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 04:27:47 -0700
From: "Tim Warner"
Subject: Re: blueshift signal
I have Seven Natural Scenes and I like it, though it sounds very demoish
(that's not necessarily a bad thing...I just really like the 35 layers of
washed out guitar)...where would I get the eps?
Tim
----------
> From: john kupchik
> To: avalyn@lysator.liu.se
> Subject: blueshift signal
> Date: 27 May 1998 14:13
>
> hey,
> has anyone else on this list heard blueshift signal? i have their
> first album "seven natural scenes", their "halo" single ( which, i kid
> you not, is one of THE best songs i've ever heard. it's a song that will
> alter your very existence!) , and their wonderful "the waterside"ep. i
> heard they have a newly released full-length lp but i've neither seen it
> nor heard anything else about it. i know it must be great, because
> everything else they've put out is great. they're rivaled only by windy
> & carl in the current shoegaze scene.
>
> warm regards,
>
> john
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Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 03:41:02 +0200
From: Erik Soderstrom
Subject: Mojave 3 News
More interesting news regarding Mojave 3 dropped in - it seems
there are already UK advance promo CDs for the new Mojave 3
album out! And it is scheduled for a release in September...
The advance promos come in slimline jewel cases without any
artwork. The catalog number in the matrix is CAD 8018CD.
Track listing:
Who Do You Love - Give What You Take - Some Kinda Angel -
All Your Tears - Yer Feet - Caught Beneath Your Heel -
Keep It All Hid - Baby's Coming Home - To Whom Should I Write
On another note: the old Mojave 3 postal address is no
longer working. Stay tuned for the new one.
[News submitted by Ralf and Christine]
Cheers,
//Erik
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Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 16:20:53 +1000 (EST)
From: athomas@postoffice.utas.edu.au (Alister Thomas)
Subject: Re: Did I mention...
Hi again!!
>Umm, ehhh, well, I LOVE swervedriver, every single note they put out,
>but Raise is by far not their psychedelic side. It's their rocking
>album, you can actually head-bang to parts.
Mmmm... intersting. The thing that really struck me about Mezcal Head (and
their subsequent albums) was that they really seemed to have stripped their
sound right down to a very much 4-on-the-floor meat-and-3-veg type of sound
that just pounds in a real heavy metal kinda way. The opening track on
Mezcal Head sets the mood for the whole album. The thing that sets Raise
apart, I think, is that there are SO MANY overdubs. I mean, the main
texture of the album is essentially not that different to their others
except for the crucial fact of there being layers and layers of guitars
overdubbed and this is what's been missing on their subsequent albums. If
you listen to Raise VERY, VERY closely you'll hear all sorts of very quiet
guitar riffs that glide along over the top of the main melodies. This is
all the way through the album. I forget how many overdubs they actually did
(around 6 or 7, from memory - or, at least, that's what I was TOLD) but
there are several different melodies going over the top of each track on
Raise, some of them VERY psychadelic. Listen very closely to Rave Down.
There is actually a very high pitched guitar going over the top of that
track all the way through which is very different to the "main thrust", if
you will, if the songs (which is very much bone-crunching guitar grinds -
and lots of them!!!). But if you can pick the oh-so-quiet tingling guitar
going over the top of it all then you'll see what I mean about the rest of
the album and if you follow it all the way through the song, it's like
"WOW!!!!!!!! Why didn't I notice this before?!?!?!?!". Very psychadelic
sounding, indeed. They haven't repeated any of this on their other albums -
none of the overdubs, either. Just stripped down pounding, almost metal
tunes.
>But I think the lps they will appeal most to people on this list are
>probably Mezcal Head and Ejector Seat Reservation (my personal fav).
My recommendation would be to get Raise (or the 1st three EP's: "Son of a
Mustang Ford", "Rave Down" and "Sandblasted" - although they're a bit
tricky to get these days) and work your way forward from there.
>Never Lose that feeling/Never learn - an 11 minute song on the US
>release - is just so beautiful and spaced out, with this dreamy sax in
>there (the only song of theirs with a sax) it's mind blowing.
The 11 minute version is on both the UK and Australian pressings, also, and
maybe even other presings (I wouldn't know, haven't come across any other
pressings, myself). I agree that this is a brilliant track!!! Everyone
should go out and buy it now!!! It is more in the Raise vein, though - it
was originally going to be a track on the Raise album that they scrapped
and dug then up after one of the members was stuffing around with a tape
recorder in the studio one day and accidently played an untreated riff
backwards and thought it sounded great, so played it to the rest of the
band who agreed. So they added some more overdubs and the played-backwards
riff became the main riff for "Never Lose that Feeling". So if you're able
to play "Never Lose that Feeling" backwards, then this would give you an
idea of how the song was originally supposed to sound (ie. you'll hear the
guitar loop as it was originally played and recorded). Some useless trivia
for you...
>If you never heard of Swervedriver, go BUY ALL THEIR ALBUM TODAY! ;)
I second that!!! Start with Raise, though... for my money, I haven't liked
anything much after "Never Lose that feeling" in 1992. But there you go...
Alister
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Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 16:30:41 +1000 (EST)
From: Alister Thomas
Subject: Ocean Blue
Hi again!
Does anybody out there like Ocean Blue??? Mmmm... I bought "Cerulean" a few
months aga and was sorely disappointed with it (it was recomended to me).
To me it sounded like a 90's version of Emerson, Lake and Palmer in the
sense that it strikes me as being very middle-of-the-road progressive type
rock with a few jangly guitars thrown in for good measure but doesn't
really actually do much. Does anyone know whether any of their other albums
are any good??? (bearing in mind that I didn't like "Cerulean"). They seem
to have a reputation for fitting in to the dream-pop/ethereal/shoegaze
(???) category. Based on what I'vew heard, I honestly can't see how this
can be justified...
Any comments???
Alister
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Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 08:24:37 +0000
From: "wade@tapehouse.com"
Subject: Re: Ocean Blue
Alister,
The best ocean blue album is beneath the rhythm and sound, but I
still wouldn't say it's shoegaze music.
wade
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Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 09:51:29 -0400 (EDT)
From: mike p
Subject: Re: Did I mention...
> >If you never heard of Swervedriver, go BUY ALL THEIR ALBUM TODAY! ;)
>
> I second that!!! Start with Raise, though... for my money, I haven't liked
> anything much after "Never Lose that feeling" in 1992. But there you go...
this troubbles me.. i'm quite into swevedriver too.. but come on, ejector
seat is an AMAZING album. this can't be said about the new one tho
ejector seat reservation has no pounding metal tunes on it.. i know what
allistar means tho, and i think raise is the "metal" album. oh, but i like
it :)
mike
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Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 12:19:43 EDT
From: Binoche21@aol.com
Subject: mp3s
...
no new mp3s?... it has been a while has it not?... s
s
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Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 10:48:14 PDT
From: "staysharp knives"
Subject: stupid ass postmaster.co.uk
huh? there you all are... damn that stupid ass postmaster.co.uk and
their stupid ass mail server that falls over...doh! beware the bouncing
mail that gets you kicked...
dave
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Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 10:51:17 PDT
From: "staysharp knives"
Subject: Re: Unidentified subject!
> Imagine a ghost town.. all dusty and quiet.. the wind blowing.. tumbleweeds..
> not a soul around... silence...
>
> and throw in some Slowdive, or what have you, if you feel like it...
>
> Feelin' lonely
> Crios
or imagine some ants, a sunny day and a big ass magnifying glass...
feelin' bored
dave
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Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 10:54:00 PDT
From: "staysharp knives"
Subject: Re: mp3s
do you want a chemical brother's mp3??? i did an mp3 of the anti nazi
mix last nite... its pretty cool. especially what they do to sargeant
peppers...
> no new mp3s?... it has been a while has it not?... s
>
>s
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Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 17:42:36 -0400
From: avalyn@chesco.com
Subject: Re: Ocean Blue
If you didn't like Cerulean you probably won't like their other albums
either. I like Cerulean (their 2nd album) and their first album (which is
self-titled), but their third album was really weak(bout two good songs i'd
say) and i never got around to getting their fourth album. They definitily
aren't dream-pop/ethereal/shoegazey at all. Well maybe like 1/8 dreamy,
the rest just normal pop stuff(if that makes any sense). I think they are
a decent band though. Actually i heard their last album wasn't too bad.
Maybe cause the one guy who plays keyboards/sax quit, and they new guy play
more guitar and no sax at all, probably a good idea.
ryan
At 04:30 PM 5/28/98 +1000, you wrote:
>Hi again!
>
>Does anybody out there like Ocean Blue??? Mmmm... I bought "Cerulean" a few
>months aga and was sorely disappointed with it (it was recomended to me).
>To me it sounded like a 90's version of Emerson, Lake and Palmer in the
>sense that it strikes me as being very middle-of-the-road progressive type
>rock with a few jangly guitars thrown in for good measure but doesn't
>really actually do much. Does anyone know whether any of their other albums
>are any good??? (bearing in mind that I didn't like "Cerulean"). They seem
>to have a reputation for fitting in to the dream-pop/ethereal/shoegaze
>(???) category. Based on what I'vew heard, I honestly can't see how this
>can be justified...
>
>Any comments???
>
>Alister
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Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 18:23:44, -0500
From: VSVE92A@prodigy.com (MR THOMAS S JONES)
Subject: Outside Your Room
Hello all,
At the risk of re-opening a long and bloody thread...
In case anybody is still wondering about his integrity, Mr. Dave came
through with the cd he offered for 10 pounds a month or so ago. It arrived
in my mailbox today. Thanks, Dave!
Tom/Baltimore
DO YOU YAHOO!? I don't, either!
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Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 14:54:03 EDT
From: ALTONBARNS@aol.com
Subject: SECRET SHINE
Hi!
Just a quick note to say a new SECRET SHINE site is up and running....all the
info on this great shoegaze band and their side projects.
http://members.aol.com/ALTONBARNS/shine3.html
Best Wishes
Antony
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Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 12:34:34 -0700
From: Kennedy Cosker
Subject: From the edge...
Hi,
Haven't seen too much action out here on this list. Just wondering how
everyone is doing? So did you all listen to the Mojave audio show on the
Rolling Stone site? It was great!
http://www.rollingstone.com/sections/artists/text/artistgen.asp?afl=rsn&LookUpString=4292&ArtistLU=Mojave3&CDNOW=MOJAVE+3
Peace and Magic,
Kennedy
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Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 12:10:17 +0300
From: Siim Kalder
Subject: Mojave 3 - Give What You Take
Did anyone get the mp3 of the song from the 4AD site? I'd love to hear it,
but its not up anymore. Please mail me if you have it! Thanks.
Siim
___________
siimk@ut.ee
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Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 03:46:25 PDT
From: "staysharp knives"
Subject: blue day mp3
howdy one and all,
ok. i'm thinking about making an mp3 (128kbit, 44.1hz) up and scans of
all the covers of blueday for anyone on the list (so they can print and
burn cds and make their own blue day cds) who might want them...
but, there is a catch... i need somone who has an FTP site to upload it
to. 'cause i have no idea how to do it... and i don't have time to
learn... there is one other catch too... if they are holding the blue
day mp3 there for people on the list to download, then could they also
hold onto a copy of the chemical brothers anti nazi mix (very,very rare
mix cd) for people to download as well...
so anyone who is interested, then let me know. and no, i am not going to
mail the mp3 out individually, that takes waaaay too long.
later,
dave
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Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 15:08:26 +0000
From: "wade@tapehouse.com"
Subject: recommendations..
I purchased the Swirlies blonder tongue audio banton over the weekend
and was really disappointed with it. I heard a great remix of their
song pancake, and was expecting more of a dreampop sound. Their cd
borders on more pop. Is there a better album by them?
Does anyone also know where I can get my hands on some secret shine
stuff, or could someone make me a mix?
wade
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Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 14:55:21 -0500 (EST)
From: bLenDER
Subject: Re: recommendations..
> I purchased the Swirlies blonder tongue audio banton over the weekend
> and was really disappointed with it. I heard a great remix of their
> song pancake, and was expecting more of a dreampop sound. Their cd
> borders on more pop. Is there a better album by them?
they spent their wild youthful days in the glittering world of the salons.
GREAT album...
get it...
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Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 16:00:25 -0400 (EDT)
From: Lorraine Lelis
Subject: Re: recommendations..
> they spent their wild youthful days in the glittering world of the salons.
>
> GREAT album...
> get it...
>
"san cristobal" is so excellent! it's track 5 on that album.... it starts
out with this truly metal riff for a couple of measures before breaking
into the smoother swirly stuff. i just had to say this coz for some
reason i've been listening to that album a lot more this week.
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Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 00:25:20 +0200
From: Erik Soderstrom
Subject: Short Mojave 3 news
Short new information regarding Mojave 3's upcoming gig at the
Water Rats in London (UK) on June 24th: it has been moved to
July 1st.
Also, and a bit surprising - the band has no plans for a new
PO Box which would replace the old non-working one. Hopefully
they will get one, but apparently not in the near future.
//Erik
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Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 20:44:38 -0700
From: Kennedy Cosker
Subject: From the edge...
Hi,
Haven't seen too much action out here on this list. Just wondering how
everyone is doing? So did you all listen to the Mojave audio show on the
Rolling Stone site? It was great!
http://www.rollingstone.com/sections/artists/text/artistgen.asp?afl=rsn&LookUpString=4292&ArtistLU=Mojave3&CDNOW=MOJAVE+3
Peace and Magic,
Kennedy
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