The Avalyn Digest
Vol.98 #093
July 1st, 1998
http://www.lysator.liu.se/~chief/avalyn.html
Today's Topics:
Re: Slowdive Compilation
da bootleg
Re: Slowdive Compilation
Re: Re[2]: Slowdive Compilation:
the albums
Re: The smell of Burnt Hair
Re: the albums
Re: The smell of Burnt Hair
Re: Re[2]: Slowdive Compilation:
Re: blue skied an' clear
Fw: selling slowdive
Outside Your Room CDR
David Stack??
Re: blue skied an' clear + Neil w/Bernard Butler
Re: The smell of Burnt Hair
Mojave 3 live at the Water Rats (fwd)
Speaking of the Water Rats/ Mt Drug Hell
Re: Speaking of the Water Rats/ Mt Drug Hell
Spiritualized
English gigging
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Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 22:47:19 -0500
From: John Van
Subject: Re: Slowdive Compilation
yeah, they are opening for Curve right?
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Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 23:26:18 -0500
From: Agent Cooper
Subject: da bootleg
Well, what can I say? Someone has compared the proposed bootleg to the Holocaust.
As for Creation, I don't think they're strapped for cash after Oasis...
All music is free.
--
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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 01:11:01 EDT
From: Catchbreez@aol.com
Subject: Re: Slowdive Compilation
yes
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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 01:24:06 EDT
From: Catchbreez@aol.com
Subject: Re: Re[2]: Slowdive Compilation:
In a message dated 98-06-28 22:33:46 EDT, you write:
<<
Doing something like this if non-profit is fine, IF the band is not
against the project. However, most of you seem to be saying
that you don't care what the band thinks, you're going to do it
anyway.
If Rachel explicitly says you should drop it, i hope you do.
Evan
>>
i for one would feel guilty
if i was the one making the bootleg
and selling
although i own my fair share of bootleg concerts and what not
the point is some backs like bootlegs some dont
if a band really hates the idea
but anything is better than david fucking stack
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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 01:31:57 EDT
From: Catchbreez@aol.com
Subject: the albums
people seem to be most worried
about the bootleg and cheating the band
i work in a record store
and we sell bootlegs what i dont get is the paying of
25 bucks for these live shows
i buy them though (with a considerable discount)
recently i got
a radiohead bootleg that has some really great acoustic radio performacnes
and a carly simon cover
and i got a verve one of the same type
so i understand the need and what for more and more music
i wish i had gotten to see slowdive live but i didnt so i keep them alive by
playing the albums, my ep collection cdr (giving to me as a gift that i wont
sell or copy to be sold), and even mojave 3 to abuse my position and expose
these people
to a great group of musicians
my question is how much are the compilations
i know for a fact the cds are cheaper and cheaper
so if you are going to make a profit off the compilations
bootlegs have a ridiculous price
we recently sold a petshop boys cd for 79 bucks
that is ridiculous...
steve
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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 02:36:10 EDT
From: SkyFireRed@aol.com
Subject: Re: The smell of Burnt Hair
In a message dated 6/29/98 4:08:59 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
kalhoun@harborside.com writes:
<<
And has
anyone heard Alison's Halo? They are supposed to be pretty good, though
I've never heard them...
>>
alison's halo are from arizona--they are really good, but they have broken up.
the couple are making music under another name, but that name escapes me at
the moment . . . ill try to remember and get back to you.
even though im from phoenix im not much help in finding any of alison's halo
releases . . . ive had a hell of a time finding anything by them. at least
one of their releases is on tape only . . .
if i discover anything more ill be sure to send another note.
--james
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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 09:38:40 -0400
From: "Mark Stancombe"
Subject: Re: the albums
Hey Steve!
You wrote...
> my question is how much are the compilations
> i know for a fact the cds are cheaper and cheaper
> so if you are going to make a profit off the compilations
>
> bootlegs have a ridiculous price
> we recently sold a petshop boys cd for 79 bucks
> that is ridiculous...
There will be no profit made from these CDs when distributed through this
network - I hope that no one will try and make a profit off of them either
and just freely distribute them to any fan that wants them...I paid $500.00
for a CD bootled of U2's Achtung Baby Sessions (3CDs)...nobody should have
to do this...
Sincerely, Sillabyss...
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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 08:56:47 -0500 (EST)
From: bLenDER
Subject: Re: The smell of Burnt Hair
> anyone heard Alison's Halo? They are supposed to be pretty good, though
I dig allison's halo very much. They're on IPR (Independent project
records). Parasol distributes IPR, so you can order from them. However,
a band from the same label/scene is half-string, which I recommend
greatly.
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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 09:27:41 -0400
From: "Mark Stancombe"
Subject: Re: Re[2]: Slowdive Compilation:
Hey Everyone...!
Well, I certainly have been doing my homework here so I'll just bring you
up to date on what I've got so far.
I have compiled a preliminary "wish list" of what the bootleg might
contain. I've decided that we should try and assimilate at least one live
version for each non-album (ie: Souvlaki, Just For a Day) song. This will
cover all of the non-album published songs as well as the unrecorded songs.
Anyways, heres the list:
Songs Published (Live):
01.) Avalayn
02.) Slowdive
03.) Morningrise
04.) She Calls
05.) Losing Today
06.) Song 1 (Shine)
Songs Unpublished (Live):
07.) Colours In Spin
08.) Bleed
09.) Curtains And Carpet
10.) Silver Screen
11.) Joy
12.) Untitled
13.) Song 2
Peel Sessions:
14.) Catch The Breeze
15.) Song 1 (Shine)
16.) Golden Hair
If you have any more material to add to this, let me know! (ie: radio
sessions etc). I might be able to contribute some demos or something if
this trade I am currently in works out.
As far as material suppliers go we have successfully tracked down quite a
bit of meterial in a very short period of time. This is very good. Below is
a list of concerts from which all of the material on this disc will be
culled from. If you have any of these concerts in any format (CD, tape)
e-mail me and I will e-mail you my address. Some already have done this and
I have already -emailed my address so not to worry. For those that I have
already been in correspondance with, please e-mail me specifically which
concert that you have so that we can deduce exactly what we need. Again,
what we're looking for from these concerts are ALL of the non-album (ie:
Souvlaki and Just For A Day) songs as well as any of the new ones that were
never recorded. Here is a list of dates that contain both non-album and
unwritten songs:
- 26/02/91: Reading England
- 06/03/91: Kilburn London England
- 26/03/91: John Peel Session
- 28/06/91: ULU London, England
- 27/07/91: Slough Music Festival
- 03/09/91: Marquee London (BBC Radio Broadcast)
- 29/09/91: Zap Club, England
- 14/02/92: Gothenburg, Sweden
- 18/02/91: Bochum Germany
- 29/02/92: L'espace Paris, France
- 23/02/92: Den Haag, Holland
- 17/05/92: RCKNDY. Seattle Washington
- 18/05/92: Harpo's Victoria BC, Canada
- 19/05/92: Commodore Ballroom B.C.
- 07/04/94: CBGB's NY,NY
- 13/04/94: San Francisco, California
- 17/05/94: Metro Chcago Illinois
- 20/05/94: Forum, Toronto
If your sending any material, give me your opinion on how good that
particular version is, so if push comes to shove and we have more than one
version we can put on the compilation that version that most people like -
if possible when you send any material via mail include a rating out of 10
that includes performance quality (the quality of musicianship) and sound
quality. This would help alot - I want to make sure that everyone will be
happy with this.
As far as distributors go, let me just say thank you to all the wonderful
people that offered their support. The more distributors we have the less
the number of copies each person will have to distribute. Distributors and
suppliers of material - I will ensure that you all get a copy from the
first run of the 20 initial printings.
When the CD is ready for distribution I will give a list of distributors
and where they are so that people can personally e-mail them for cost of
shipping, address exchanges, etc. I really want this to work and that
everyone who wants a copy could have one for only the cost of the CD plus
shipping. Any questions, comments, material submissions, or distributor
inquiries, please feel free to contact me at my address...cheers!
Sincerely...Sillabyss (ie: Mark Stancombe...)
E-mail: sillabyss@sprint.ca
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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 11:29:06 -0400 (EDT)
From: Michael Gilham
Subject: Re: blue skied an' clear
On Tue, 30 Jun 1998 Catchbreez@aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 98-06-29 20:16:32 EDT, you write:
>
><< SECOND, what Neil was quoted as saying did not imply that he thought
> Slowdive's body of work merely "amounted to funny noises" ....
> Rather he was quoted as saying something to the effect that the
> band sent much of their time in the studio creating "funny noises" ....
> Maybe only a fine distinction -- depending on how one wants to take it --
> but a distinction, nevertheless ...
>>>
> yes he said the same thing to me at SXSW
You might have sent this reply to the list: for the reason that quite a
few have been confused on the issue i.e. attributing what Neil was quoted
as saying to Rachel! ....
thanks for confirming this inaccuracy!
best,
Michael
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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 19:07:38 +0300
From: Siim Kalder
Subject: Outside Your Room CDR
Is there anybody in need of the Outside Your Room EP? I'd be happy to make
a CDR copy of it in exchange for a copy of Slowdive, Holding Our Breath or
In Mind (non remix) EP. If there's anybody willing to make me a copy of any
of these 3 EPs, please let me know what (else) you'd like in return or how
it'd be possible to come to a deal. I also have the not-so-rare material of
Slowdive.
Thanks,
Siim
___________
siimk@ut.ee
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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 98 11:49:55 CST
From: Crios@dminet.davidson-marketing.com
Subject: David Stack??
Pardon my ignorance....
Who is David Stack?? and why does he sound so evil???
Crios
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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 19:37:17 +0200
From: Erik Soderstrom
Subject: Re: blue skied an' clear + Neil w/Bernard Butler
At 20:01 1998-06-29 -0400, Michael Gilham wrote:
> I wonder if Rachel still reads this list?
> If so, I'm a little surprised she didn't somehow correct the above
> mis-attribution some time ago ... but, then, I'm sure she has better
> things to do ....
Rachel is upgrading her computer at the moment and can't use the
Internet at all because of it. She said she'd be gone for about
a month (and that was about three weeks ago).
Back from the Roskilde festival in Denmark where I saw Neil
play with Bernard Butler (among other things). Quite an amazing
show, loads of long effect laden electric guitar parts and I
was just standing there hoping Neil would think something like
"Well, this sounds pretty good! Maybe I should use some...
hmmm" etc. ;) Of course Neil was as cool as usual on stage,
and Bernard was the one hammering away on his guitar, but
you know what I mean. Took a couple of photos - I'll put them
up on the website as soon as the film gets developed.
//Erik
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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 13:50:57 EDT
From: SkyFireRed@aol.com
Subject: Re: The smell of Burnt Hair
In a message dated 6/30/98 6:57:03 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
ben@bewley.net writes:
<<
However,
a band from the same label/scene is half-string, which I recommend
greatly.
>>
i strongly concur. half string is definitely worth checking out.
unfortunately, they have definitely broken up. kimber lanning, half string's
drummer, runs an excellent record shop in tempe az called stinkweeds. you may
want to check them out at http://www.abilnet.com/milkbone/milkweed.html. ive
found quite a bit of stuff there i couldnt find anywhere else, and kimber of
course has everything released by half string.
apparently kimber is the only member of half string still making music. she
started up a band called nepal, although from what she said they sound
extremely casual at the moment.
--james
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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 13:16:18 -0500 (CDT)
From: John Roseborough
Subject: Mojave 3 live at the Water Rats (fwd)
I hope someone in London can go to this show tomorrow... send us a review!
John
---------- Forwarded message ----------
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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 17:49:32 +0100
From: Tim Hall
Reply-To: 4AD recording artists list <4AD-L@AMERICAN.EDU>
Subject: Mojave 3 live at the Water Rats
Mojave 3 live at the Water Rats
Live News!
Bit short notice this however ......Mojave 3 play live at Kings Cross
Water Rats Club, London, UK, Europe - tomorrow, Wednesday 1st July.
M3 will be on stage at 10.15pm. Support comes form new Wiijja signing
'Whistler'. Be there!
Mojave 3 - 'Who Do You Love' EP out now!
Regards
Tim @ MT$%&*^&$ sorry 4AD.
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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 14:53:16 EDT
From: Moonstar9@aol.com
Subject: Speaking of the Water Rats/ Mt Drug Hell
When I was in London 3 weeks ago I caught this band My Drug Hell at Water Rats
and I have to say that they were excellent. Does anyone know anything about
them? I highly highly recommend them. They have this great raw sound like
something from the late 60's. Jared
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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 17:18:50 EDT
From: Enigk1@aol.com
Subject: Re: Speaking of the Water Rats/ Mt Drug Hell
Does anyone know of any cool venues in London where I can catch a band?
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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 02:41:31 -0700
From: "Kalhoun"
Subject: Spiritualized
Hello everyone...me again with another question.
Is there a Spiritualized mailing list?
Just curious.
Tim
PS Thanks for the Alison's Halo info!
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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 18:31:34 -0400 (EDT)
From: Michael Gilham
Subject: English gigging
On Tue, 30 Jun 1998 Enigk1@aol.com wrote:
> Does anyone know of any cool venues in London where I can catch a band?
pick up this week's NME or Melody Maker and see what's on ....
There are loads of venues in London ... it depends on what you
want to see ...
And, if you have the opportunity, you might consider travelling
North to see a good gig if any are happening ... It's good fun to get
out o' the London hustle and bustle to watch a band w/ "real" Britons.
Well that's what those living in the provinces would have one
believe anyway i.e. that one has to travel out of Greater London to see
the "real England" ....
I do not disagree ... however, London is way fab, yeah!
good luck!!
--michael
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