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	 Re: Sleeve/Fading for Amanda
	 Sorry 'Bout Your Girlfriend
	 Disposition of Slowdive Fans
	 Blows My socks off.....???
	 Re: Disposition of Slowdive Fans
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	 Re: Disposition of Slowdive Fans
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	 Re: Disposition of Slowdive Fans
	 Re: Disposition of Slowdive Fans
	 Disposition of Slowdive Fans and the proliferation of unwanted jargon-based text packets
	 Re: Disposition of Slowdive Fans
	 Re: Disposition of Slowdive Fans
	 Top 10
	 Re: Disposition of Slowdive Fans

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Date: Mon, 06 Jul 1998 08:51:24 +0100
From: "Kurt.Verweire" 
Subject: Re: Sleeve/Fading for Amanda

Hi all,
First of all, thanx Andy for keeping me informed about our band. Indeed,
we didn't know that an audio clip was put on the net. It is probably a
fragment of the last live gig we played as Fading For Amanda.

Fading For Amanda does not exist any more, but as the title mentions it,
we're now called Sleeve. Two reasons why we changed: first we hated the
name (it sounded somewhat new-wavy and we're , second, we also changed
our music style.
Our objective now is to combine Slowdive, Cocteau Twins and MBV guitars
with some trip hop drums and sounds. We fired our drummer and a new guy
(DJ Buzz) joined the band. Last thursday we heard the first sound clips
he made for us, and to be honest, we all were impressed. He was the guy
we really needed, the person who gave our sound a more modern "look".
For the moment, we are finishing some new songs... From the moment that
there are demos, I'll let you know.
We had contacts with Alex Callier (about 9 months ago), the guy behind
Hooverphonic and he also was going to produce some songs, but we decided
to wait because there were only 2 songs we really liked. Anyway, we' ll
contact him again when the new songs are finished. Hope he still wants
to produce some of our stuff.

For the ones who are interested: our bass player is also on the net.
Here is his address: rudy.cocquyt@lmb001.rug.ac.be

Bye,
and thanx for the support !!!
Kurt

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Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 03:56:16 EDT
From: Catchbreez@aol.com
Subject: Sorry 'Bout Your Girlfriend

my friend sean and i are putting a project together
called Sorry 'Bout Your Girlfriend
and trippy noise band 
using household pots and pans for drums
my guitar and pedals, two turntables
and a cheap casio keyboard
all of it will be recorded onto a * track and hand looped
(as soon as we get an 8 track)

just curious on what you think

steve

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Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 07:54:50 -0500 
From: "Fenkner, Mark" 
Subject: Disposition of Slowdive Fans

> Dear Team,
> 
> I wanted to briefly poll the group on a question I had regarding the
> disposition of Slowdive fans.  From observing myself and a few other
> people that I know whom like Slowdive and similar music, we are a
> depressive bunch.  Does this ring true to you also?  In a certain
> system
> of pop psychology, there is a personality categorization called a #4,
> the Tragic/Romantic, which seems to be quite attracted to this style
> of
> music (there was a #4 web page that existed for a while... all the
> music, all the movies, all the poetry I knew and loved.  It was a nice
> snapshot of my tastes).  And though I am this type and quite enjoy the
> music (oh, the rapture and bliss in the sadness and depth within the
> music... "outside your room your sisters spinning"... there is a world
> of thought in these lines), I question if it is healthy to indulge in
> these dark moods.  Any opinions?
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Mark Fenkner

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Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 09:35:18 -0400
From: "Mark Stancombe" 
Subject: Blows My socks off.....???

Hey Catchbreeze...- if that is your real name :)

> my friend sean and i are putting a project together
> called Sorry 'Bout Your Girlfriend
> and trippy noise band 
> using household pots and pans for drums
> my guitar and pedals, two turntables
> and a cheap casio keyboard
> all of it will be recorded onto a * track and hand looped
> (as soon as we get an 8 track)

	I always love to hear projects like this - done on a shoetsring with the
whole group of people just going for it - always remember, its never, ever
the gear or the instruments that you use (despit popular opinion) it is
always the ideas that are proliferated and captured onto tape that matters.
The Velvet Underground's drummer (Moe Tucker) used pots and pans initially
cause she couldn't afford a drum kit. On that legnedary album "The Velvet
Underground and Nico" (The one with the Banana on the cover) she was only
using a single kick drum and a splash cymbol - thats it. Pretty sparse when
you think about it, but listen to the drums on tracks like Heroin or Venus
in Furs - blows my socks off...!!! 

				Just a little encouragement...:)

					Sincerely, Sillabyss....

P.S. - try getting an old tape recorder and experimenting with tape speeds
and such - these types of devices open up your processing abilities
tenfold...just mess around with the motors and such, use dead batteries,
scratch the hell out of the playback heads, etc, etc, etc,,,all fun...

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Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 09:42:55 -0400
From: "Mark Stancombe" 
Subject: Re: Disposition of Slowdive Fans

> > and though I am this type and quite enjoy the
> > music (oh, the rapture and bliss in the sadness and depth within the
> > music... "outside your room your sisters spinning"... there is a world
> > of thought in these lines), I question if it is healthy to indulge in
> > these dark moods.  Any opinions?

	Absolutely - I find a certain comfort in kowning that other people
experience similar or even worse traumas than my own - they help one to
understand and move past the hardest obstacle in overcomming grief and
longing - the feeling that one is not alone...isolation and loneliness can
be the most debiltating of human emotions...to know that someone is
suffering along with you can be alleviating, comforting and extremely
therapeutic...many say that divulging in this manner only worsens the mood,
but in reality, by avoiding it altogether, are you really dealing with that
side of your personality, or simply resorting to escapism...embrace
anything that alleviates your pain...period...

				There my two or three or eight cents worth...:)

			Sincerly, Sillabyss (ie: Mark Stancombe)

P.S. - I don't think its because were moody and depressing, so much as
we're realists and capable of understanding and appreciating beauty that
comes from genuine human sincerity...thats probably a better definition of
a type #4...theres another cent or two...:]

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Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 09:00:44 -0500 (EST)
From: bLenDER 
Subject: Re: Disposition of Slowdive Fans

> > I wanted to briefly poll the group on a question I had regarding the
> > disposition of Slowdive fans.  From observing myself and a few other
> > people that I know whom like Slowdive and similar music, we are a
> > depressive bunch.  Does this ring true to you also?  In a certain

nope.  I embrace all my emotions, be it a down type, or an up type.  I'm a
romantic type, definitely, and I'm the emotional type, but at the same
time, I've never been excessively unhappy.
The music of Slowdive actually lifts me, the sonic-ness of it brings me up
and into brighter light, if I may use a new age sounding analogy.  It has
brought me down, if I'm already in a low mood.  Actually, Slowdive seems
to amplify whatever mood I'm in, and since I'm generally happy, it
generally makes me more happy...

but it puts most of my friends to sleep...

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Date: Mon, 06 Jul 98 12:21:52 CST
From: Crios@dminet.davidson-marketing.com
Subject: Re: Disposition of Slowdive Fans

Oh I don't know... I guess I would call myself a Tragic/Romantic...  but that's
not me to a tee... there's lots of different facets to my (as well as other
peoples I'm sure) personality... I do indulge in deep blue funks every now and
then...  it's kinda nice every now and then... I don't know what people that
listen to Slowdive are like cause I've never really met any... (except for the
people on this list but I've never REALLY met any of you) and anyway not all of
Slowdive's music depresses me... Blue skied an Clear makes me tremendously happy
as well as Melon yellow and Some velvet Morning... and Primal... well that one
makes me kinda aggressive, gets the andrenaline flowwing... It depends on the
way you view it, you know... I suppose a certain type of person would be
attracted to this type of music... but hey... listen to what you like, not just
cause it might fit some type of designated stereo type... (I'm not saying that
that's why anyone listens to Slowdive or whatever... I'm just saying "be
careful, and make sure you listen to music for the right reason, but then again
who am I to say what the "right" reason is)  

by the way.. Does anybody listen to Miranda Sex Garden... what ever happened to
them???  
                Crios

oh yeah...  I'd like to do a little poll of my own... what are the top ten music 
you've been listening to lately?  Just curious... Here's mine
1) Miles Davis
2) John Coltrane
3) Mogwai
4) Slowdive
5) Swervedriver
6) Pizzacato Five
7) NOFX
8) Fugazi
9) Red Rodney
10) Curve

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Subject: Disposition of Slowdive Fans
From:    avalyn@lysator.liu.se at DMINET

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Date:    7/6/98  9:39 AM

> Dear Team,
> 
> I wanted to briefly poll the group on a question I had regarding the
> disposition of Slowdive fans.  From observing myself and a few other
> people that I know whom like Slowdive and similar music, we are a
> depressive bunch.  Does this ring true to you also?  In a certain
> system
> of pop psychology, there is a personality categorization called a #4,
> the Tragic/Romantic, which seems to be quite attracted to this style
> of
> music (there was a #4 web page that existed for a while... all the
> music, all the movies, all the poetry I knew and loved.  It was a nice
> snapshot of my tastes).  And though I am this type and quite enjoy the
> music (oh, the rapture and bliss in the sadness and depth within the
> music... "outside your room your sisters spinning"... there is a world
> of thought in these lines), I question if it is healthy to indulge in
> these dark moods.  Any opinions?
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Mark Fenkner

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Date: Mon, 06 Jul 1998 19:18:02 GMT
From: vince@deehan.demon.co.uk (Vince Deehan)
Subject: Re: Disposition of Slowdive Fans

Crios writes:

> by the way.. Does anybody listen to Miranda Sex Garden... what ever happened 
> to them???  

(Stepping out of lurk mode !)

Excellent question, which I hope someone can answer. There is a group in
the UK at the moment called The Medieval Babes (they played at
Glastonbury this year) who I keep wondering if they are Miranda Sex Garden 
under a new name and with new members. Anyone know ?  I recall seeing Miranda
Sex Garden at the University of London Union in, I think 1990 or 1991,
supporting Curve who had just released their Frozen EP.  What a shame that
Curve have abandoned their old sound and gone essentially techno (from what
I've heard). They were such a great band and now they've changed out of all
recognition. I guess Garbage have taken the old Curve sound and turned it
into a huge sucess, but I digress !

> oh yeah...  I'd like to do a little poll of my own... what are the top ten 
> music 
> you've been listening to lately?  Just curious... Here's mine

I don't know about a top 10, but right now I'm listening to a lot of Garth
Brooks, Christopher Cross (he has an excellent new album out), Brian Wilson
and Dar Williams and lots of other stuff.  

I tried to get a copy of the Mojave3 single on Saturday but couldn't find a 
single copy in either HMV, Virgin or Tower Records in London !! It seems
like I'll have to mail order it, which seems preposterous since they are a 
UK band !  In all honesty I didn't like the first Mojave3 album at all,
way too  downbeat for my liking. Slowdive's music was (and is) just so 
achingly beautiful that I will always follow Neil Halstead's endeavours.

I've always wanted to say this but have never had the chance : for those
of you who have seen the Morningrise video, isn't it just the most perfect
match of music and visuals ? I think so !

----------------------
Regards
Vince Deehan

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Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:37:41 EDT
From: M242557sm@aol.com
Subject: Re: Disposition of Slowdive Fans

well, the top ten ive been listening to lately.. 
1) mogwai
2) codiene
3) shellac
4) june of 44
5) fugazi
6) modestmouse
7) trembling blue stars
8) rollerskate skinny
9) slint
10) bedhead
hahahahaha.. i know, im a dork. 
shane. 

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Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 14:39:53 -0400 (EDT)
From: Lorraine Lelis 
Subject: Re: Disposition of Slowdive Fans

i don't know if i would call myself "tragic," but "romantic" is definitely
true.  funny how someone said "melon yellow" makes them feel happy- but
for me, that song is so melancholy and romantic that when i was listening
to it once, i realized that i was in love with a friend of mine who also
happened to be a slowdive romantic.  

i think slowdive music attracts people who find beauty in melancholy, but
not necessarily people who are depressed and tragic.  

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Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 11:31:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: Gage Crump 
Subject: Re: Disposition of Slowdive Fans

in reply to the listening music right now here's ten:

1) windy&carl
2) stars of the lid
3) trembling blue stars
4) massive attack
5) charles mingus
6) bowery electric
7) low
8) third eye foundation
9) sun ra
10) stone roses

-gage

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Date: Mon, 06 Jul 1998 13:17:07 -0500
From: erik 
Subject: Re: Disposition of Slowdive Fans

> ... but hey... listen to what you like, not just
> cause it might fit some type of designated stereo type... (I'm not saying
> that that's why anyone listens to Slowdive or whatever... I'm just saying
> "be careful, and make sure you listen to music for the right reason, but
> then again who am I to say what the "right" reason is)  

Someone asked me what I play on my radio show and I said "late-night music".
Most people would listen to it and think it's depressing, down music, but
most beautiful music is inspired by sadness and by letting it out, something
comes out that can only come from one of our most powerful emotions.

> oh yeah...  I'd like to do a little poll of my own... what are the top ten
> music you've been listening to lately?  Just curious... Here's mine

1.Lilys
2.Pan American
3.Swirlies
4.Bill Laswell dubbing Bob Marley
5.Mogwai
6.Chuck Berry
7.Gram Parsons
8.Swervedriver
9.The Swells    
10.Jesus and Mary Chain

erik

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Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 16:57:07 EDT
From: ALTONBARNS@aol.com
Subject: Re: Disposition of Slowdive Fans

Heres my ten that have been spinning around under the laser over the last
couple of days!

1.Mojave 3 - Between US (from the `Who Do You Love CD)
2.Northern Picture Library - Alaska
3.Locust - Morning Light
4.Secret Shine - Untouched
5.Cocteau Twins - Four Calendar Cafe (Pur...the best summer track ever??)
6.Blueboy - Marco Polo
7.Aphex Twin - Film (From the Come To Daddy CD)
8.Amp - Sirenes - (oooh scary stuff)
9.Heather Nova - Siren
10.Locust - The Love You Cruelly Gave Me Would Not Last (From the CD Truth Is
Born Of Arguements)

Oh well.....
Ant

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Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 17:29:09 -0400
From: "Mark Stancombe" 
Subject: Disposition of Slowdive Fans and the proliferation of unwanted jargon-based text packets

Hey guys...

Well, heres my top ten over tha past month or so...

01.) Galaxy 500 - On Fire
02.) Slowdive - Morningrise EP
03.) New Order - Movement
04.) Sianspheric - Somnium
05.) Ride - Going Blank Again
06.) Joy Division - Closer
07.) The Velvet Underground - The Velvet Underground And Nico
08.) Spiritulaized - Abbey Road EP
09.) The Jesus And Marychain - Psychocandy
10.) Primal Scream - Vanishing Point

	Hahahahaha....ahhhhhahahahahahah....ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhahahahaha


			Sincerely, Sillabyss...

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Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 17:08:13 -0400 (EDT)
From: Lorraine Lelis 
Subject: Re: Disposition of Slowdive Fans

my top 10...

1. darla v.9
2. sweet trip
3. sean lennon
4. broadcast
5. bjork (homogenic)
6. massive attack
7. lovesliescrushing
8. third eye foundation
9. scala
10.air

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Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 16:30:43 -0500 (EST)
From: bLenDER 
Subject: Re: Disposition of Slowdive Fans

The ten of ben (recently)

1. Deadsy - Deadsy
2. Lusk - Free Mars
3. None Left Standing - Stingray Candy 100
4. Slowdive - JFAD (I still listen to this at leat once a week since
   purchase in 1992)
5. Jessamine - The Long Arm of Coincidence
6. Brian Eno - Apollo (remember the apollo thread, well I bought it and
   have been listening to it bunches)
7. Hum - Downward is Heavenward
8. Three Different Tape Comps from my far off girlfriend.
9. Cocteau Twins - Heaven or Las Vegas
10. My old bands.  I got a DAT player/recorder recently, and I've been
    listrening to all my old band's studio masters.

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Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 17:14:32 -0500 (CDT)
From: "\"Benjamin Maki\"" 
Subject: Top 10

Okay so none of you know me. I'm new to the list. I've got a handful of
old Slowdive stuff that I drag out from time to time, but frankly I more
often pull out the Mojave 3 album as the stripped clean sound seems to do
more for me these days.

So, I joined up to have a listen to what you folks talk about and see what
I could glean about the new release. Other than that I suppose I could let
you know I'm a 29 y.o. male from Chicago, hmmm, lotsa cats, not subject to
many tragic situations odr particularly depressed, though musically I
guess you could say I tend towards the darker side at times.

So here's my 10 discs worth of input:

Chris Cacavas - Anonymous
Acetone - self-titled LP
Come - Gently Down the Stream
Julian Cope - Jehovahkill
Silver Chapter - 1st Three EPs
Steve Wynn - Sweetness & Light
Sonic Boom - Spectrum
Green On Red - What Were We Thinking?
The Police - Zenyatta Mondatta
Swell - Well?

That's them in no particular order, fer whatever it's worth. Talk to y'all
later, perhaps...

Best Regards,

Ben Maki
bmaki@interaccess.com

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Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 16:34:33 +0000
From: "wade@tapehouse.com" 
Subject: Re: Disposition of Slowdive Fans

I wondered if anyone on the list can tell me what Lorelei sounds 
like.  Saw the album this weekend but hesitated.  Also, had a 
discussion with a few people on this list about the Swirlies.  I 
loved the remix of Pancake, but the album with the original song 
version bored me.  Is there a really good Swirlies album to get?
Oh, here's what I've been listening to lately:

1.Mojave 3(who do you love)
2.Jesus and mary chain
3.Future bible heroes
4.Secret shine
5.The Association
6.tricky
7.MBV(ecstasy and wine)
8.Rialto
9.Windy and Carl
10. Slowdive(of course, everyday)

wade

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