The Charlatans Digest Vol.2 Issue #04
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Digest
Vol.2 Issue #04
March 4th, 1996
There are 80 messages totalling 1325 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. North America (3)
2. Baker (12)
3. life is....video (4)
4. Another single (3)
5. THE SOUTH!
6. Mark
7. I Nine Wanna Acre Be Court Adored (6)
8. tunes, etc.
9. stir it up! (13)
10. Questions... (14)
11. life is sweet
12. new kid in here
13. a question (4)
14. Mail order (2)
15. Guardian Angel? (7)
16. HELLO & HELP
17. Stone Roses?? (3)
18. Bootleg
19. Dying of jealousy
20. Chem. bros.
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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 00:26:28 -0500
From: Munj@aol.com
Subject: North America
What exactly does the latest issue of 109 say about the Charlatans coming
back to North America?
P.S. Could someone send the address of 109, thanx.
Matt
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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 01:19:50 -0500 (EST)
From: Deborah
Subject: Re: North America
the address for 109 is p.o. box 94, Northwich, cheshire, CW9 5TS england, uk
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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 23:15:35 -0800
From: decker
Subject: Baker
I never asked,
but why did Baker leave, or did they not like him??
Me and my friends want to know....it's a big mystery to us.
please tell me :)
Decker
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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 00:10:09 MST
From: MERRILEE WOLSEY
Subject: RE: North America
straight from 109:
Tim and Mark have just spent a week in London writing some new material and as
I write this the band are writing and rehearsing in Stone Staffordshire and
should start recording their 5th album within the next few months if thingo to
plan. There has also been some talk od some live dates but when and where has
not been decided.
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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 09:58:49 +0000 (GMT)
From: Penfold
Subject: Re: Baker
On Wed, 21 Feb 1996, decker wrote:
> I never asked,
> but why did Baker leave, or did they not like him??
>
> Me and my friends want to know....it's a big mystery to us.
>
> please tell me :)
I dont know why but his new band are playing at my local pub on friday...
They are called solo 70 or something like that....
Daniel
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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 10:14:52 GMT
From: campbell colin
Subject: Re: life is....video
you are right me old mucker
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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 14:55:03 +0000
From: Tobermory
Subject: Re: Another single
Personally, I think they could do a lot with "Bullet Comes", or has
this already been a double A-Side with Crashin' In?
Tob
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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 21:58:53 +0000 (GMT)
From: "H.Ismail"
Subject: Re: Another single
Dear Tob,
Bullet Comes was a double A side with Just Lookin' and was the second single to
be released from the new album. I agree that it's an excellent song but to be
honest I do prefer Just Lookin'. The video for Just Lookin' is also the best
I've ever seen from the Charlatans. Have you seen it? It was shot at the GLC
headquarters in London and is really clever. I reckon Here Comes A Soulsaver
would make a great single but they have released enough songs from 'The
Charlatans' and it would be fairer to the fans to release something brand new.
from
HAN
P.S. Does anyone out there know whether or not the performance on May 11th 1995
at the London Astoria is going to be released on video? I was there and am dying
to see it!!
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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 17:15:59 -0500 (EST)
From: Deborah
Subject: Re: Another single
it was an a-side with just lookin'
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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 17:18:12 -0500 (EST)
From: "Benjamin B. Graham"
Subject: THE SOUTH!
CAN SOMEONE TELL ME IF THE CHARLATANS ARE EVER COMING TO ANY OF THE
SOUTHERN UNITED STATES? NORTH CAROLINA WANTS THE CHARLATANS.
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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 19:47:31 MST
From: MERRILEE WOLSEY
Subject: RE: Baker
i'm not exactly sure why baker left but i got the impression from that aricle
in September Select, that when the had Flood produce between 10th and 11th the
band wasn't happy with it and after the first day with Flood, Baker "...says
he's leaving..."
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 10:36:07 -0600 (CST)
From: traumaboy
Subject: RE: Baker
At the risk of being redundant (again),
I'm pretty sure I've read that Baker left the band because he was
uncomfortable with the strain/stress/trappings of being a "rock and roll
star."
jb
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 06:47:42 -0500
From: jim lowe
Subject: RE: Baker
> At the risk of being redundant (again),
>
> I'm pretty sure I've read that Baker left the band because he was
> uncomfortable with the strain/stress/trappings of being a "rock and roll
> star."
Can we confirm the exact date of his departure?
I was under the impression that he left in between the release of
"Over Rising" & "Me In Time", but an earlier message indicated that he
left during the mixing of "Between 10th & 11th". Is Baker the guitarist
on the second album?
jim
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 09:44:51 -0800 (PST)
From: Justin Beck
Subject: RE: Baker
> I was under the impression that he left in between the release of
> "Over Rising" & "Me In Time", but an earlier message indicated that he
> left during the mixing of "Between 10th & 11th". Is Baker the guitarist
> on the second album?
Nope, it's Mark Collins all the way.
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 08:03:38 -0500
From: jim lowe
Subject: RE: Baker
> > left during the mixing of "Between 10th & 11th". Is Baker the guitarist
> > on the second album?
>
> Nope, it's Mark Collins all the way.
Thanks...I thought that I was losing my mind! :-)
Although the subject of Mr. Baker often comes up, we never seem to
discuss what an excellent job Mark Collins did when he stepped in. In
concert, he can play the Baker songs without problem...and his work
(especially on the most recent album) has matured significantly as the
band has progressed.
I honestly think that the addition of Mark Collins ensured the viability
of the band and prevented them from drifting into oblivion ala so many
other Madchester bands.
jim
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 19:47:03 +0000 (GMT)
From: "H.Ismail"
Subject: Mark
I agree with everyone who has written in support of Mark. I think he brought a
new dimension to the sound of the band and has helped them to grow. I'm glad
other members of the group are getting recognition for their parts in The
Charlatans. I do feel that Tim always being in the limelight does make some
people forget that there aree FIVE people in the band. I love Tim and his lyrics
but respect to the others too. What do you think??
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Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 16:29:49 -0600 (CST)
From: traumaboy
Subject: RE: Baker
I agree; from the opening riff of "Don't want to see the sights,"
Collins has provided the group with a much more expansive, grittier
guitar sound.
jb
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Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 16:15:36 -0800
From: klyakov@ucsd.edu (Lyakov) (Krassi Lyakov)
Subject: I Nine Wanna Acre Be Court Adored
Hey, hey, hey!
Has anyone played the beginning of Nine Acre Court, and thought that the
intro_bassline to I Wanna Be Adored could go really well with it? Any
thoughts? I think that IF the chanting wasn't there, the background noise
(random street sounds and aproaching bus-noise) is very similar to the noise
in the beginning of I Wanna Be Adored....! What happened to me was, I had
both The Stone Roses and the Charlatans albums (note: both self-titled
albums) together with 3 others in my five disc CD player, and when the intro
to Nine Acre Court came on, I was thinking the bass to Adored could begin
any second...Hey, I am not trying to say they are the same in any way, so
don't jump on me, alright!? They are completely diferent songs, I know...
Just a thought...I guess I listen too much (which never hurts) to the
Charlies and the Roses (the two greatest bands in the world)
Phew! Later...
"I can't even be bothered, energy breaks me down..."
Krassi
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Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 16:15:25 -0800
From: klyakov@ucsd.edu (Lyakov) (Krassi Lyakov)
Subject: Re: tunes, etc.
Hello all!
>Anybody out there feel that Stir It Up was just a track waiting to be made a
>single all its own?
Absolutelly!!! One of my top five favorite Charlatans songs! Amazing! Really
groovy and moving! Anyone heard/seen it live?
"I can't even be bothered, energy breaks me down..."
Krassi
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Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 16:20:44 +0000 (GMT)
From: "H.Ismail"
Subject: stir it up!
I agree that Stir It Up could have been a single in it's own right and is one
of the best songs by the band. I reckon that it's nice that one of their finest
moments will only be experienced by real fans.
I'm not sure about the Nine Acre Court/I wanna be adored theory but plan to
check it out immediately, so I'll get back to you once I've researched it.
Han
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Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 11:05:25 PST
From: Robert Harrison
Subject: RE: Baker
On Fri, 23 Feb 1996 09:44:51 -0800 (PST) Justin Beck wrote:
> > I was under the impression that he left in between the release of
> > "Over Rising" & "Me In Time", but an earlier message indicated that he
> > left during the mixing of "Between 10th & 11th". Is Baker the guitarist
> > on the second album?
>
> Nope, it's Mark Collins all the way.
Are you sure ? Iam inclined to believe that old Marky boy left during the
mixing of Between 10th and 11th but I could be wrong .
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Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 11:11:26 PST
From: Robert Harrison
Subject: Re: life is....video
On Thu, 22 Feb 1996 21:53:56 -0800 (PST) Justin Beck wrote:
> > Andy Fraire wrote:
> > >
> > > Has anyone see the Chemical Brothers' "Life is Sweet" video on 120
> > > minutes?(to those in the states).
> > > I was amazed to see that MTV would play the Chemical Brothers, however i
> > > had heard the music used in promos.
> > > -andf@as.ucsb.edu
> > >
> > I saw it. I had never seen the Chemical Brothers before - the lead
> > singer looked very familiar. I liked the song.
I believe there to be no lead singer in the Chemical Brothers as the two of
them both mix and when playing live (Blackpool Empresss ballroom - Supporting
The Prodigy) they had no vocalist.
P.S. Do check the album Exit Planet Dust as it has some sweet music on
it especially Life Is Sweet.
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Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 03:41:59 -0500
From: jim lowe
Subject: Re: life is....video
> > > I saw it. I had never seen the Chemical Brothers before - the lead
> > > singer looked very familiar. I liked the song.
>
> I believe there to be no lead singer in the Chemical Brothers as the
> two of them both mix and when playing live (Blackpool Empresss ballroom
> - Supporting The Prodigy) they had no vocalist.
>
> P.S. Do check the album Exit Planet Dust as it has some sweet music
> on it especially Life Is Sweet.
OKAY...LET'S STOP THIS RIGHT HERE!
The comment about the lead singer looking familiar was a joke...
The person providing the vocals for "Life is Sweet" is Tim Burgess...he
is also in the video. This is a charlatans list...does everyone get the
joke?
:-)
jim
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Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 14:36:24 +0000 (GMT)
From: "H.Ismail"
Subject: Questions...
I'm not sure if I got through last time so I'll write my questions again just
in case.
1. What exactly does Tim say just before "Tell Everyone"? All I can make out is
"This one's for..."
2. Has anyone seen "The Wish", the film that the Charlatans did the soundtrack
for? If so, what was it like?
That's all for now. If anyone would like to email me for a chat my address is
hi195@soton.ac.uk
You can write in English or German and it would be cool to speak to some other
fans.
Han.
P.S. I reckon Jon left during the mixing of Between 10th and 11th too and it's
the pictures of Mark in the C.D. which are making people think otherwise.
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Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 08:10:14 -0800 (PST)
From: Justin Beck
Subject: RE: Baker
On Mon, 26 Feb 1996, Robert Harrison wrote:
>>>> I was under the impression that he left in between the release of
>>>> "Over Rising" & "Me In Time", but an earlier message indicated that he
>>>> left during the mixing of "Between 10th & 11th". Is Baker the guitarist
>>>> on the second album?
>>>
>>> Nope, it's Mark Collins all the way.
>>
>> Are you sure ? Iam inclined to believe that old Marky boy left during
>> the mixing of Between 10th and 11th but I could be wrong.
If Mark left during the mixing of Betw. 10th & 11th, how is it that he's in
the band now???
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Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 16:53:20 +0000 (GMT)
From: "SC. Barrie"
Subject: life is sweet
It seems from the tone of a few recent letters that not everyone has
clocked on to the fact that Tim Burgess is in the Life is Sweet video?
He apparently recorded the vocals in one day after four-pack of
Boddingtons bitter.....
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Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 17:28:06 PST
From: Simon Amor
Subject: Re: Questions...
>P.S. I reckon Jon left during the mixing of Between 10th and 11th too and it's
>the pictures of Mark in the C.D. which are making people think otherwise.
I don`t suppose anyone out there has a copy of "The Only One I Know" on
either CD or 12" that they would be willing to sell for a reasonable price?
Cheers
PS. I still think that Baker left before the recording of Between 10th and
11th, If anyone out there knows for definite then PLEASE put us all right.
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Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 08:02:16 -0500
From: jim lowe
Subject: Re: Questions...
> I don`t suppose anyone out there has a copy of "The Only One I Know" on
> either CD or 12" that they would be willing to sell for a reasonable price?
I have an extra copy of the European release of the CD. I'd prefer to
trade, but will sell if the "reasonable price" is right! :-)
jim
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Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 09:56:34 -0800
From: klyakov@ucsd.edu (Lyakov) (Krassi Lyakov)
Subject: Re: I Nine Wanna Acre Be Court Adored
Han, and everyone...
>I'm not sure about the Nine Acre Court/I wanna be adored theory but plan to
>check it out immediately, so I'll get back to you once I've researched it.
Please, don't take it seriously! I was just caught by that idea for a moment
when I was listening to my CDs...No theory, really...Just a side note, I
guess...A cool thing I might try is play the bass line to Adored along with
the intro to Nine Acre Court...But, hey, I wasn't saying the two songs were
in any way similar, or whatever...
Peace
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Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 20:07:20 +0000
From: LEANNE MCQUILLAN <9524554@srv0.law.ed.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Questions...
I was wondering how much "The Only One I know" CD single is worth?
Anything?
Cheers Leanne
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Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 20:16:44 -0500 (EST)
From: kclair@sas.upenn.edu (Kristina Clair)
Subject: Re: life is....video
jim lowe wrote:
>
> > > > I saw it. I had never seen the Chemical Brothers before - the lead
> > > > singer looked very familiar. I liked the song.
> > > >
>
> OKAY...LET'S STOP THIS RIGHT HERE!
>
> The comment about the lead singer looking familiar was a joke...
actually, I wrote that he looked familiar with no knowledge that it was
Tim Burgess. I was honestly asking. I usually don't pay much attention
to what bands look like, sorry.
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Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 20:18:43 -0500 (EST)
From: kclair@sas.upenn.edu (Kristina Clair)
Subject: Re: Questions...
H.Ismail wrote:
>I'm not sure if I got through last time so I'll write my questions again just
>in case.
>
>1. What exactly does Tim say just before "Tell Everyone"? All I can make out is
>"This one's for..."
you should check out a charlatans web page that prints the lyrics. If
you don't have the site address, then I can get one for you.
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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 00:35:24 -0600 (CST)
From: traumaboy
Subject: RE: Baker
I sent a message but I'm not sure that it made it to the list. In a Q
magazine interview from late last year, Mark Collins said that he joined
the band right after "Me In Time" went into the British charts, which
would be well before 10th and 11th was finished.
Mark Collins gets a co-writing credit on 6 of the 10 songs on Between
10th and 11th; Baker is not credited at all.
john
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Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 22:34:11 -0800 (PST)
From: 5858@connectnet.com (jeff F)
Subject: Re: Questions...
>> I don`t suppose anyone out there has a copy of "The Only One I
>Know" on either CD
>> or 12" that they would be willing to sell for a reasonable price?
>
>I have an extra copy of the European release of the CD. I'd prefer to
>trade, but will sell if the "reasonable price" is right! :-)
hi jim, i have the us cd and am willing to sell it for $8, let me know. you
can e-mail me at 5858@connectnet.com
jeff
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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 10:50:15 -0500 (EST)
From: Deborah
Subject: Re: Questions...
jeff $8 for the us copy? that is it? don't people realise how rare a
copy of the only one single is. it's been deleted and absolutely
impossible to find. noone even carries it anymore!!!!!
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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 09:09:22 -0800 (PST)
From: Justin Beck
Subject: Re: Questions...
I see it in the stores occasionally. Tower Records even.
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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 11:17:01 +0100
From: Eirik Gudmundsen
Subject: Re: Baker
Hi!
I think I can tell you for sure that John Baker left BEFORE the making of
10th&11th. When John left, it was said that the album was recorded except from
the guitarparts, but I guess they'd just played some demoes for the new album
(Can't Even Be Bothered was played by John Baker in concert). After John left
the band, there was a long brake before the Me.In time was released. Mark
Collins was a part of the band already then. Then Flood came into the picture,
and he hared Me. In Time, so they started to change a few things before they
released Between 10th & 11th which has very little to do with John Baker. Mark
played everything on that album. The last thing John was apart of was Over
rising!
Cheers!
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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 14:51:05 -0500 (EST)
From: Deborah
Subject: Re: Questions...
justin are you sure? when i was in england at christmas my friend
askedme to get her a copy and every record shop, including tower had it
as deleted on their computers. i went to every record shop i saw,
including the big 3 in london and they had the same information. deleted
from distributor.
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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 12:04:41 -0800 (PST)
From: Justin Beck
Subject: Re: Questions...
Yep, I'm sure! But who knows what particular stores have laying around
for sale.
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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 18:21:19 -0800
From: Hatuey Aboy
Subject: Re: Questions...
Deborah wrote:
> jeff $8 for the us copy? that is it? don't people realise how rare a
> copy of the only one single is. it's been deleted and absolutely
> impossible to find. noone even carries it anymore!!!!!
>
> "IMAGINE IT'S A FILM AND YOU'RE THE STAR"no more mail !!!!
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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 19:19:46 -0800 (PST)
From: 5858@connectnet.com (jeff F)
Subject: Re: Questions...
>jeff $8 for the us copy? that is it? don't people realise how rare a
>copy of the only one single is. it's been deleted and absolutely
>impossible to find. noone even carries it anymore!!!!!
i just want a fair price. what do you think its worth???
jeff
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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 21:51:39 -0500
From: Finalpoet@aol.com
Subject: Re: stir it up!
i'm sorry, but, here in nashville, tennessee, it's really hard to keep up
with new charla-boys material....where is stir it up located?
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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 21:53:27 -0500
From: Finalpoet@aol.com
Subject: Re: I Nine Wanna Acre Be Court Adored
i just wanted to put my opinion in on your faves....charlatans and shed seven
are the two best!
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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 96 03:12:55 -0500 (EST)
From: cstein@sava.gulfnet.com (Chris Steinmetz)
Subject: Re: stir it up!
Hey Y'all-
>i'm sorry, but, here in nashville, tennessee, it's really hard to keep up
>with new charla-boys material....where is stir it up located?
IT'S ON THE JESUS HAIRDO SINGLE
Question:
Anyone found any good CD boots from shows including stuff from the latest album?
If so:
a. Where can Iget one?
b. How much?
c. Venue?
d. Quality?
e. length?
You can tell me via private e-mail to avoid clogging everyone's computer(s)
Thanks
Peace, Chris
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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 22:33:25 -0500
From: Finalpoet@aol.com
Subject: Re: Questions...
hey you lovelies!.......does anyone have a copy of "diversion" that they
would like to sell?......i've got three versions of the 'only one i know'
single.....two versions are the 4-song ep's, one on cd, the other on
12"......plus, i've got the 2-song u.s. promo of the single.....also, i'm
looking for the indian rope single, sproston green single, some more of those
darn 'up to our hips' postcards, and........the crashin in
single......someone come to my rescue!..........'if you happen to die, i
won't be there!"....
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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 22:52:31 -0500
From: Finalpoet@aol.com
Subject: Re: stir it up!
the only boot leg i have is hot licks.....which has materail from
somefriendly, overrising, and between 10th and 11th.....see ya!
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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 23:54:01 -0500
From: HEISEI6692@aol.com
Subject: new kid in here
Damn! I thought I was the only Charlies fan left in America. Or one of the
last ones. Here in Tucson we don't get much britpop albums and to find a
Charlies single I don't have (not that I have a lot) is, well about once a
year. Does anybody know of a good place to mail order? I'm especially
looking for Japanese imports or bootlegs (besides Hotlicks).
Cheers!
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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 09:26:32 +0100 (BST)
From: "T.E. McGrath"
Subject: Re: I Nine Wanna Acre Be Court Adored
> i just wanted to put my opinion in on your faves....charlatans and shed seven
> are the two best!
comon man, yer the charlies, and the sheds are good bands,
but the ultimate is THE STONE ROSES,
THE MESSIAH IS ALIVE AND GROOVES HARDER
TO THE ROSES!
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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 10:55:34 GMT
From: MFMEX5MH
Subject: Re: I Nine Wanna Acre Be Court Adored
> Has anyone played the beginning of Nine Acre Court, and thought that
>the intro_bassline to I Wanna Be Adored could go really well with it?
Yes, I have often thought that myself...
I saw the Chemical Brothers about a month ago and they didn't play "Life
Is Sweet" but they did play "Nine Acre Court" with a slippery backbeat
and it was brilliant. Just thought I'd mention it, since people were
discussing the Bros. Does anyone know if there's a recording available
of "Nine Acre Court" with the Chemical Brothers?
Melinda
(taking a break from her steady diet of the Bluetones)
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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 11:34:52 +0000
From: Alan Wito
Subject: a question
Hello everyone
Can someoen tell me where i can get hold of the lyrics for the Album
'Up To Our Hips'?
I would be grateful for any info
Alan
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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 12:51:58 PST
From: liz baynton
Subject: Re: Questions...
On Mon, 26 Feb 1996 20:07:20 +0000 LEANNE MCQUILLAN wrote:
> I was wondering how much "The Only One I know" CD single is worth?
> Anything?
> Cheers Leanne
It`s worth about six quid, as is Indian Rope.
Simon
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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 96 08:25:18 -0600
From: Brett Matthew Haydin (Bretter)
Subject: Mail order
Hello out there!
Along with the other new kids out there, I go to school in a place
that carries only the dirty grunge they now call alternative. But I used to
get 109 all the time and I recall that there was some add for ordering all
sorts of nifty charlatans gear (including the coveted singles). Now, school
is tight, I have since passed that catalog on to others. But I also don't
have my back issues up here. Does anybody have that address (I think it came
from Omega records in England cos I got their sticker with it) and if you
do, post it so everybody can get there hands on it. I myself got a cool
long sleeve orange tour tee out of it.
Oh, and the Only One That I Know is readily available at record
conventions. I have never seen it go for more that $12, and usually about
$10. I have spent hundreds of dollars on the single for the charlatans,
suede, james, stone roses... Gosh, I really have an expensive hobby!
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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 13:43:34 +0100 (BST)
From: "T.E. McGrath"
Subject: Re: a question
> Hello everyone
>
> Can someoen tell me where i can get hold of the lyrics for the Album
> 'Up To Our Hips'?
>
> I would be grateful for any info
some of the lyrics where in the fanzine 109,the fanzine is free
and the address is in the sleeves of the album.you could also
try the net page BACKROOM WINDOW".
if you can't finnd the site,drop us a line.
TIM MCGRATH.
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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 15:39:47 +0000 (GMT)
From: "SC. Barrie"
Subject: Re: stir it up!
> the only boot leg i have is hot licks.....which has materail from
> somefriendly, overrising, and between 10th and 11th.....see ya!
Whoever has this bootleg, I would be willing to buy it for a large sum of
money. Good price paid..........
contact me at sb4894@bristol.ac.uk
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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 20:38:13 -0500
From: HEISEI6692@aol.com
Subject: Guardian Angel?
Has anyone heard of a Charlies record entitled "Guardian Angel"? It's a live
album with songs from "Some Friendly". Also does anyone have any old copies
of 109? I'd like to see what it looks like.
Cheers
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Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 09:14:39 +0000
From: Jason New
Subject: Re: Guardian Angel?
Hello there,
I have "Guardian Angel" and it's excellent. I prefer it to the
isolation live album.
Jason
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Date: Thu, 29 Feb 96 4:58 EST
From: Robert_Kenny@vos.stratus.com
Subject: RE: Guardian Angel?
I dont know my friend. Check out the internet, and search for some pages of
lyrics. Oh and if anyone has'nt checked out the documents on the stone roses,
check out the lyrics pages, there are lyrics for nearly all their songs....
Rob.
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Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 10:21:12 GMT
From: BARRY MAY
Subject: HELLO & HELP
Greetings, fellow Charlies fans !
I'm Bez ( not the Rev. Black Bez, obviously, but a pretty close
approximation. )
I need help !
At the moment, my music collection is pretty sad and ill-looking, and
hence, I wish to expand it.
I'm looking for anything by Burgess & the boys,
( apart from the 4 albums, The only one, and Just lookin' singles. )
preferably on CD.
I will pay any reasonable asking prices.
Please reply ( to my personal address MAYBSJ@Cardiff.ac.uk
so's not to clutter up everyone else's mail. )
Cheers.
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Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 15:26:17 +0100
From: Eirik Gudmundsen
Subject: Re: a question
> Hello everyone
>
> Can someoen tell me where i can get hold of the lyrics for the Album
> 'Up To Our Hips'?
>
> I would be grateful for any info
Hi!
I've got nearly all the lyrics for Up To Our Hips. It isn't the official
lyrics, but it's a mix of what some fans on this list, me, and a Japanese
booklet have managed to get together. It will be on the BackRoomWindow soon
(I've been saying that about the lyrics for a couple of months, but I think I
am really going to put it in this time!)
bye,
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Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 14:23:42 +0000 (GMT)
From: "H.Ismail"
Subject: Stone Roses??
I can't believe that someone has written into the CHARLATANS' mailing list
saying that The Stone Roses are better!!! Sort it out. Respect to John Squire
but they haven't got a patch on our lads AND Ian Brown can't sing live.
Han
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Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 14:41:47 +0100 (BST)
From: "T.E. McGrath"
Subject: Re: stir it up!
>> the only boot leg i have is hot licks.....which has materail from
>> somefriendly, overrising, and between 10th and 11th.....see ya!
> Whoever has this bootleg, I would be willing to buy it for a large sum of
> money. Good price paid..........
> contact me at sb4894@bristol.ac.uk
I AM NOT SURE IF HOT LICKS IS WORTH MUCH SO DON'T
SPLASH OUT TO MUCH.WHEN I WET TO AMSTERDAM,
TO WATCH THE CHARLIES ABOUT A 2YRS AGO ,HOT LICKS
WAS IN HMV ,IT COST ABOUT stlg9.THE BOOTLEG DOES NOT CONTAIN
ANY SONGS AN AVERAGE FAN WON'T HAVE ANYWAY.
TIM MCGRATH
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Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 17:02:09 GMT
From: Mr Silly
Subject: Re: a question
Look on any of the Charly pages on the information superhighway - try
the complete British Indie Index - many more bands than just
Charleys.
Mr S
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Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 22:43:09 +0000 (GMT)
From: "SC. Barrie"
Subject: Re: stir it up!
Hi mate!
Thanks for the advice about Hot Licks. I only want it because I'm an
obsessed fan, but I'll now try not to get ripped off.
Thanks again
Scott
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Date: Fri, 1 Mar 96 08:43:48 JST
From: r_smith@Koyosha.CO.JP (hiroko takeda)
Subject: Re: Stone Roses??
I think so too. I like you:)
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Date: Thu, 29 Feb 96 23:54:12 -0500 (EST)
From: cstein@sava.gulfnet.com (Chris Steinmetz)
Subject: Re: Guardian Angel?
Hey!
What is "Guardian Angel"?
Peace, Chris
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Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 19:28:36 -0500
From: HEISEI6692@aol.com
Subject: Re: Guardian Angel?
Guardian Angels? Well it's (or mine is) a live record. I haven't heard
isolation yet, but it does make me want to see the Charlies all the more.
(They don't come to Arizona) its contents look like this:
(bbc in concert 1/12/90)
The only one I know
You're not very well
I Can't even be bothered
Flower
Ocean Rising
then
SIDE B
Indian Rope
(Peel Session, June 90)
You Can talk to me
Polar Bear
Then
Always in Mind
(London National Ballroom, Kilburn, 8/11/90)
Ya gotta love it it's got Polar Bear on it.
Cheers!
Travis
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Date: Fri, 1 Mar 96 00:15:06 -0500 (EST)
From: cstein@sava.gulfnet.com (Chris Steinmetz)
Subject: Re: Stone Roses??
HEY NOW!
Just like the Beatles and Stones in the 60s, everyone, the Roses and
Charlies are apples and oranges. So quit viping and make fruit salad!
Peace, Chris
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Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 19:44:04 -0500
From: Rainbow507@aol.com
Subject: Re: I Nine Wanna Acre Be Court Adored
sweet-- whoever said that they like shed 7... i agree!! they're great...
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Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 19:18:11 MST
From: MERRILEE WOLSEY
Subject: Re: Guardian Angel?
where can i get guardian angels?
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Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 20:42:35 -0600 (MDT)
From: MILLER_MELANI_S
Subject: Re: stir it up!
Hey... like..... you've all been a mega audiance!
apart from 'life is sweet' and 'time for livin' does anyone know of any
other tim burgess/chemical brothers stuff??
seeya,
Phil.
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Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 00:25:04 -0500
From: SkEiht@aol.com
Subject: Re: Guardian Angel?
Finally, some respect for Polar Bear. Lovely song the lot of you.
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Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 21:56:52 +0000
From: Andy Fraire
Subject: Re: stir it up!
Does the "Patrol" remix count???
-andy
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Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 02:05:38 -0500
From: derek_f@alcor.concordia.ca (Derek Fong)
Subject: Re: stir it up!
>Hey... like..... you've all been a mega audiance!
>
>apart from 'life is sweet' and 'time for livin' does anyone know of any
>other tim burgess/chemical brothers stuff??
Phil,
Well, there's also Toothache and a remix of Nine Acre Court. The
Charlatans released "The Charlatans UK v. The Chemical Brothers," which
contains three remixes of Toothache (Toothache Chemical Risk Mix, Chemical
Risk Dub and Instrumental Mix) and Nine Acre Dust (remix of Nine Acre
Court).
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Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 09:46:43 +0000
From: LEANNE MCQUILLAN <9524554@srv0.law.ed.ac.uk>
Subject: Bootleg
I have a bootleg called "They don't want to see the sights"
It says on the box that it was recorded in 1994 on tour but it has no
"Up to our hips" material.It is all earlier stuff and there is a
really good version of "Sproston Green" and "I can't even be bothered"
Leanne
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Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 09:52:36 +0000 (GMT)
From: "SC. Barrie"
Subject: Dying of jealousy
> Guardian Angels? Well it's (or mine is) a live record. I haven't heard
> isolation yet, but it does make me want to see the Charlies all the more.
> (They don't come to Arizona) its contents look like this:
> (bbc in concert 1/12/90)
> The only one I know
> You're not very well
> I Can't even be bothered
> Flower
> Ocean Rising
> then
> SIDE B
> Indian Rope
> (Peel Session, June 90)
> You Can talk to me
> Polar Bear
> Then
> Always in Mind
> (London National Ballroom, Kilburn, 8/11/90)
>
> Ya gotta love it it's got Polar Bear on it.
> Cheers!
Hi mate!
I'm dying of jealousy now that you've shown me the contents. What is
Ocean Rising and Always in Mind?????
Please, please and double please can you get this album for me? As
you can tell, I'm a completely obsessive fan. I can get hold of Hot Licks
from a guy called Chris on the mailing list, but he wants Stone Roses in
return which I'm not sure where to get, and I don't think a monetary bribe
will make him part with it....
Yours longingly
Scott...
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Date: Fri, 01 Mar 1996 11:59:15 +0100
From: Eirik Gudmundsen
Subject: Re: Mail order
Hi All!
If you are interrested in getting a lot of Charlatans merchandise, I'd
recommand you writing to this address:
Nic Sheen C/o Omega Music
2 Witton Walk Northwich
Cheshire CW9 5RQ
ENGLAND
You must enclose a large stamped addressed envelope, or for us living outside
the UK, just send 2x International reply coupons!
IF some of you don't know how to get 109, then I'll put up that address as
well:
109
PO BOX 94 Northwich
Cheshire CW9 5TS
ENGLAND
You must send a large stamped addressed envelope, or if living outside
England, send 3x International reply coupons.
The next issue to come out is issue 16, but if you want some of the other
issues as well, just send more IR Coupons and ask for it in the letter. Note
that some of the issues are sold out!
Cheers,
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Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 14:27:07 +0000 (GMT)
From: "H.Ismail"
Subject: Chem. bros.
The Charlatans and the Chemical Brothers have done quite a lot together. It
started when the Dust Brothers (as the Chems were then known) remixed Patrol for
the Jesus Hairdo single. Since then they've done Life Is Sweet and Time For
Livin' as you know. I also managed to get my hands on a US import called The
Charlatans vs The Chemical Brothers which has four remixes from the latest album
including Toothache... It's worth shelling out for.
Han
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Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 15:34:09 +0000 (GMT)
From: Ben
Subject: Re: stir it up!
On Fri, 1 Mar 1996, Derek Fong wrote:
> >Hey... like..... you've all been a mega audiance!
> >
> >apart from 'life is sweet' and 'time for livin' does anyone know of any
> >other tim burgess/chemical brothers stuff??
> >
> >seeya,
> > Phil.
>
> Phil,
>
> Well, there's also Toothache and a remix of Nine Acre Court. The
> Charlatans released "The Charlatans UK v. The Chemical Brothers," which
> contains three remixes of Toothache (Toothache Chemical Risk Mix, Chemical
> Risk Dub and Instrumental Mix) and Nine Acre Dust (remix of Nine Acre
> Court).
There is also a mix of one of the teacks off Up to Our Hips on Jesus
Hairdo when the Chemical Brothers were still the Dust Brothers.
Oh, and someone wrote that the Stone Roses and The Charlatans were like
apples and oranges, or something. Well, IMHO "Your Skies are Mine" bears
a striking resemblance to "Your Star Will Shine", Track 2 (i think it is)
off of some friendly sounds a bit like "She Bangs the Drums", but it's
not all one way as the version of "Tightrope" on the "Crimson Tonight" ep
sounds like "Just When You're Thinkin' Things Over". Still, both bands
are ace so it doesn't matter.
Ben
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Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 08:09:38 -0800 (PST)
From: Justin Beck
Subject: Re: stir it up!
There's a U.S.-only CD called The Charlatans vs. The Chemical Brothers,
with a Nine Acre Court remix, a couple of Toothache remixes, and
something else (something from Exit P. D.) that I can't remember at the
moment. It's pretty good--and cheap.
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Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 11:47:03 -0500 (EST)
From: Deborah
Subject: Re: stir it up!
isn't there a disck called the charlatans vs. the chemicals brothers.
well something like that. i believe each band mixes two songs of the other.
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