The Charlatans Digest Vol.2 Issue #05
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Digest
Vol.2 Issue #05
March 6th, 1996
There are 89 messages totalling 1361 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. Roses (21)
2. Dying of jealousy (3)
3. Bootleg
4. Chem. bros.
5. Charlatans lyrics
6. stir it up! (4)
7. Guardian Angel?
8. new kid in here (7)
9. I Nine Wanna Acre Be Court Adored (10)
10. imports & stuff (4)
11. Blow-up/the Lemon Drop
12. promo luck (4)
13. COBBLERS (9)
14. Stone Roses?? (3)
15. MBV
16. band recommendations? (4)
17. THE GOSPEL TRUTH (2)
18. Give it a rest guys! (2)
19. Two love, love
20. HEISEI, DO YOU HAVE SECOND COMING? (2)
21. FIND THE 'ROSES MAILING LIST, MONKEY BOY.
22. esposos (3)
23. THIS IS A MAILING LIST (2)
24. I've had it!
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Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 14:11:45 -0500
From: HEISEI6692@aol.com
Subject: Roses
Listen. . . I also like the Roses, but all I have to say is Charlies 2 Roses
0.
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Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 14:07:54 -0500
From: HEISEI6692@aol.com
Subject: Re: Dying of jealousy
Scott,
okay, I'll pick it up this weekend. we're going to need to figure out how
to do this international thing. I'll also send you the receipts so you know
I'm not ripping you off. You don't think that you can find another Melting
Pot? I'll need your address, and does the quality of the record cover bother
you? I know it does me. If I remember clearly it wasn't in mint condition.
Mine also isn't, but that's life. But It's a gooder. were you taking the
piss about that wooden box set? Christ what I would give to get a hold of
something like that! I really haven't listened to G.A. lately, but
guaranteed you've heard all the tracks.
Get in touch and we'll work something out
Cheers.
Travis
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Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 16:57:02 -0500 (EST)
From: Sujay Jhaveri
Subject: Re: Roses
> Listen. . . I also like the Roses, but all I have to say is Charlies 2 Roses
> 0.
Yes, but do ANY Charlatans beat I am the Resurrection? Fools Gold?
Breaking Into Heaven? What the World Is Waiting For?
Don't get me wron, and this debate need not continue. I love the
Charlies. IMHO, Sproston Green and Occupation H. Monster are their best
songs.
Cheers,
Suj.
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Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 23:17:46 +0000 (GMT)
From: "SC. Barrie"
Subject: Re: Bootleg
> I have a bootleg called "They don't want to see the sights"
> It says on the box that it was recorded in 1994 on tour but it has no
> "Up to our hips" material.It is all earlier stuff and there is a
> really good version of "Sproston Green" and "I can't even be bothered"
> Leanne
Dear Leanne
Please sell me it!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Any price paid, even if it is
ridiculously high!
Contact me at sb4894@bristol.ac.uk
Scott
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Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 23:19:24 +0000 (GMT)
From: "SC. Barrie"
Subject: Re: Chem. bros.
> The Charlatans and the Chemical Brothers have done quite a lot together. It
> started when the Dust Brothers (as the Chems were then known) remixed Patrol for
> the Jesus Hairdo single. Since then they've done Life Is Sweet and Time For
> Livin' as you know. I also managed to get my hands on a US import called The
> Charlatans vs The Chemical Brothers which has four remixes from the latest album
> including Toothache... It's worth shelling out for.
> Han
I bought the Charlatans v the Chemical Brothers in Virgin record stores,
but it only cost me 8 quid...................
Scott
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Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 23:59:06 +0000 (GMT)
From: "H.Ismail"
Subject: Re: Roses
I think that the Roses debate needs to continue as the two bands are always
being compared and I know that Tim has often rejected this idea. Many songs
"beat" the Roses ones you named, listen to Weirdo, Jesus Hairdo, Soulsaver,
Feelin' Holy, Sproston Green-I could go on forever. The fact is that both bands
have got stuff going for them and it's got nothing to do with who beats who. I
personally prefer the Charlatans cos they've got a special groove and are
fantastic live, they are always developing into a better band but have classic
moments on each of their albums.
I do agree that "Your Skies Are Mine" is similar to the Roses but doubt that it
was an intentional plagiarism. So, respect to the Roses but double respect to
the Charlies
Han
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Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 19:08:04 -0500 (EST)
From: Derek Fong
Subject: Charlatans lyrics
Just in case anyone wants to get some lyrics, not only can you
check Eirik's page, but you can also check mine. I've just started
putting up some lyrics from Up To Our Hips (which are my best guesses),
and I hope to put up some more soon.
The lyrics are at http://alcor.concordia.ca/~derek_f/char/lyrics.html.
You can also check out my home page while you're at it! (Shameful plug...
*blush*)
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Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 17:31:52 -0600 (MDT)
From: MILLER_MELANI_S
Subject: Re: stir it up!
Okay, thanks... can someone who has 'charlatans v chemical brothers' tell
me what label its on..... I want it!!!!
Cheers,
Phil.
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Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 19:49:38 -0500
From: Finalpoet@aol.com
Subject: Re: stir it up!
i'd be more than happy to dub it fr ya bro!
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Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 19:52:40 -0500
From: Finalpoet@aol.com
Subject: Re: Guardian Angel?
anybody wanna sell 'guardian angel'?
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Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 19:54:17 -0500
From: Finalpoet@aol.com
Subject: Re: new kid in here
oh, talk to me about boots bro!.......e-mail back!
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Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 19:57:49 -0500
From: Finalpoet@aol.com
Subject: Re: I Nine Wanna Acre Be Court Adored
shed seven rocks!.......i heard they're about to release another album
soon......i'm so happy!
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Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 17:21:37 -0800 (PST)
From: 5858@connectnet.com (jeff F)
Subject: Re: Dying of jealousy
> Hi mate!
>
> I'm dying of jealousy now that you've shown me the contents. What is
>Ocean Rising and Always in Mind?????
> Please, please and double please can you get this album for me? As
>you can tell, I'm a completely obsessive fan. I can get hold of Hot Licks
>from a guy called Chris on the mailing list, but he wants Stone Roses in
>return which I'm not sure where to get, and I don't think a monetary bribe
>will make him part with it....
> Yours longingly
>
> Scott...
hi scott, i have hot licks and i am willing to sell it
e-mail me at 5858connectnet.com
jeff
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Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 21:50:45 -0500
From: HEISEI6692@aol.com
Subject: Re: stir it up!
>Okay, thanks... can someone who has 'charlatans v chemical brothers' tell
>me what label its on..
Beggars Banquet
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Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 22:32:15 -0500
From: HEISEI6692@aol.com
Subject: imports & stuff
hello all,
I know this has no bearing on the Charlies, but I picked up a copy of the
'sis (Oasis) live in Paris today. It's called Paris Supernova. Also has
anyone heard of the singles I don't wanna see the sights, Can't get out of
bed, and Spronston Green? I found I don't wanna see..... & Spronston Green
at zia records and me friend SkEight brought me Can't get out of bed back
from Canada. Has Anyone else heard of these? They weren't on the
discography as far as I could see. Does Anyone have any Charlies postcards
they want to get rid of? The only one I have came with their new album The
Charlatans It has a B/W picture of Tim in a bathtub.
Also, the Swe@r have an E.P. out entitled Daydreamer (NOT THE SINGLE!!) with
the tracks 1. Daydreamer 2. I'll Manage Somehow 3. Second Hand 4. Gentleman
Jim 5. Daydreamer-Dub Dreamer Apparently it's a limited edition. I picked it
up in Japan this X-mas. Is this a Japan only release? Does anyone have the
Swe@r's discography?
Cheers!
Travis
"live it like you love it"
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Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 22:31:17 -0500
From: HEISEI6692@aol.com
Subject: Re: new kid in here
Here, Charlies "alternative pressings" (is this the P.C. way of writing
bootlegs?) are very hard to come by. Back in Texas (ug) Bill's records had a
lot of Charlies vinyl, I don't recall if any of them were bootlegs. You said
you knew of a couple of places that had imports?
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Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 23:15:53 -0500
From: jrobin@tiac.net (Sproston Green)
Subject: Re: Roses
>I think that the Roses debate needs to continue as the two bands are always
>being compared and I know that Tim has often rejected this idea. Many songs
>"beat" the Roses ones you named, listen to Weirdo, Jesus Hairdo, Soulsaver,
>Feelin' Holy, Sproston Green-I could go on forever. The fact is that both bands
>have got stuff going for them and it's got nothing to do with who beats who. I
>personally prefer the Charlatans cos they've got a special groove and are
>fantastic live, they are always developing into a better band but have classic
>moments on each of their albums.
>I do agree that "Your Skies Are Mine" is similar to the Roses but doubt that it
>was an intentional plagiarism. So, respect to the Roses but double respect to
>the Charlies
>Han
i find it impossible to compare the roses and the charlatans. i think both
bands
are in the zone. that ethereal place where creativity and passion flow like a
waterfall. one things for sure, they are both tops. and second place is light
years away. cheerios. milk.
Sproston Green
jrobin@tiac.net
http://www.tiac.net/users/jrobin/index.html
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Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 22:15:38 -0800 (PST)
From: 5858@connectnet.com (jeff F)
Subject: Re: stir it up!
>i'd be more than happy to dub it fr ya bro!
thanks a lot. do you want me to send you a tape or some money to cover postage??
let me know. thanks
jeff
oh yeah, i guess you need my address
jeff farrell
442 'E' ave
coronado, ca 92118
thanks again, jeff
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Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 22:17:02 -0800 (PST)
From: 5858@connectnet.com (jeff F)
Subject: Re: new kid in here
>oh, talk to me about boots bro!.......e-mail back!
the only boot i have is the hot licks cd. a live show from the between 10th
and 11th period. nothing exclusive but a good quality show.
jeff
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Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 02:43:33 -0500
From: zinha@idirect.com
Subject: Blow-up/the Lemon Drop
Greetings
Here we are again. Blow-up has been a regular saturday feature for
the last two months and i'm proud to say I haven't missed one yet.
It's returning March 9th at the Gallery Loft {291 Dundas St @ McCaul},
soon to be caled 'the Lemon Drop'. Cover will probably stay @ $5 but
I could be wrong. Here's a description of what it's about again to
refresh your memories or create some...
BLOW-UP
a night of UK indie/
Motown/60's & Nothern Soul
sounds of oasis,the jam,supergrass,james brown
the la's,elastica,cast,heavy stereo,stereolab
stranglers,stone roses,verve,the who,blur
supremes,byrds,adorable,specials,cardigans...
to join an e-mail list for blow-up, write Tim: republic@interlog.com
Republic Records
http://www.interlog.com/~republic
(tim apologizes to those who were on the list.
he mistakenly erased the addresses so write him back)
cheers
Teresinha
{by the way, the older gentleman at the Marion show who was in a blue
cord jacket was not a 'nice roadie' but happens to be Joe Moss, X-Smiths
manager, came out of retirement to manage Marion now, ok?}
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Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 13:35:50 -0500
From: Rainbow507@aol.com
Subject: Re: I Nine Wanna Acre Be Court Adored
i thought shed 7 had a new cd out- i just didn't think it arrived in the US
yet. does anyone know for sure?
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Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 14:04:52 -0500
From: Finalpoet@aol.com
Subject: Re: I Nine Wanna Acre Be Court Adored
i just talked to a guy today......the cd is coming out at the end of this
month,,,,but domestic release is not slated.....it's called 'maximum
high'.....and so far, only one single has been released called....'gettin'
better'......i hope that answers your question!....see ya!
jason
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Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 02:36:48 -0500
From: ChmclBrthr@aol.com
Subject: Re: I Nine Wanna Acre Be Court Adored
Roses are great. they remind me a lot of the Charlatans.
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Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 02:35:10 -0500
From: ChmclBrthr@aol.com
Subject: Re: new kid in here
You are in luck buddy. I actually know of about four places to get bootlegs
and rarities on a ton of groups. E-mail me back and we'll talk.
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Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 22:04:25 +0000 (GMT)
From: "SC. Barrie"
Subject: Re: new kid in here
> You are in luck buddy. I actually know of about four places to get bootlegs
> and rarities on a ton of groups. E-mail me back and we'll talk.
Hi,
Could you mail me the addresses of these places? I need to get a hold of
quite a few Charlatans goodies.
sb4894@bristol.ac.uk
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Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 22:08:06 +0000 (GMT)
From: "SC. Barrie"
Subject: Re: Dying of jealousy
> Scott,
>
> okay, I'll pick it up this weekend. we're going to need to figure out how
> to do this international thing. I'll also send you the receipts so you know
> I'm not ripping you off. You don't think that you can find another Melting
> Pot? I'll need your address, and does the quality of the record cover bother
> you? I know it does me. If I remember clearly it wasn't in mint condition.
> Mine also isn't, but that's life. But It's a gooder. were you taking the
> piss about that wooden box set? Christ what I would give to get a hold of
> something like that! I really haven't listened to G.A. lately, but
> guaranteed you've heard all the tracks.
> Get in touch and we'll work something out
> Cheers.
Thanks Travis!
It's really good of you to do this. The cover doesn't really bother me,
so long as I have it....
This is Guardian Angels we're talking about, yeah?
Any ideas on how to post Vinyl or how to work out the pounds-dollars thing?
I wasn't taking the piss about the wooden box set - the local record
shop manager saw it at his mate's house. If I get to meet the Charlies at
the next gig, then I may just ask them.
Speak to you soon,
Scott.
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Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 21:42:44 -0500
From: Finalpoet@aol.com
Subject: Re: new kid in here
hey!.....tell me more about these bootleg places....i
am extremely interested!
jason
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Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 22:02:45 -0500
From: HEISEI6692@aol.com
Subject: Re: new kid in here
hey!.....tell me more about these bootleg places....i
am extremely interested!
ME TOO! You've got all our attention, so what's keeping the list from
coming?
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Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 22:00:42 -0500
From: HEISEI6692@aol.com
Subject: promo luck
I just got 3 Charlies promo tapes! I totally got lucky on the hunt today.
Up to our hips, The Charlatans, and Some Friendly? either that or it's from
the only one I know.
The tracks are The only one I know/Then/Polar Bear/Sonic and the same on
the b side. Does any one know if this is Some friendly's? Also picked up
the Swe@r's nuisance promo tape. Is there a Swe@r chat line? Discography?
I'm trying to accumulate one from what I have so anybody got something they
think I could use please let me know.
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Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 01:01:35 -0500
From: Finalpoet@aol.com
Subject: Re: promo luck
hey!......interested in sellin those 3 charlie promos?
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Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 01:33:40 -0500
From: HEISEI6692@aol.com
Subject: Re: promo luck
hey!......interested in sellin those 3 charlie promos?
Sorry, I'm not interested right now. Although, I'll keep me eye open for
some more if you want any. They were dirt cheap (I think) $3.00 each!
Except for the Swe@rs' which was $5. If you want I could dub them for you.
E-mail me @ HEISEI6692@aol.com and we'll figure something out.
Sorry.
Travis
Live it like you love it
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Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 01:38:08 -0500
From: Finalpoet@aol.com
Subject: Re: promo luck
please keep your eyes pen...i'd appreciate that...i'll pay ya back!
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Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 01:38:08 -0500
From: campbell colin
Subject: Re: imports & stuff
Here in britain Cant get out of bed was released as a cd only single for one
week. It came with postcards and was in a box set the tracks were
cant get out of bed
subterrainean
cant get out of bed (demo)
easy life(demo)
im talkin shit sorry easy life was released for one week as described above with easy life also being the title track instead of cant get
Cant get out of bed was released simply as a single here cant remember the track listing right off but if your interested get back to me
as for the other two you mention theyve never been released here except as B sides maybe
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Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 11:17:10 GMT
From: campbell colin
Subject: Re: Roses
'your skies are mine' excuse me but have any of you ever heard of irony?
Who cares which are the best band theyre both brilliant live and on record.
I should know as I've folowed both of them since the begining I saw the roses in a shady club in Glasgow called the Rooftops in 1988 for one pound fifty which is rediculously cheap. I've never missed a Charlatans gig in glasgow either and they've played.
here something like 6 or 7 times.
I even saw them at the secret unvailing gig for between 10th and 11th at King Tuts Wah Wah hut which some of you may have heard of.
So lets quit making silly comparisons both bands do theyre own thing and do it well so sit back and enjoy the vibe
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Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 11:28:55 GMT
From: campbell colin
Subject: Re: I Nine Wanna Acre Be Court Adored
piss orf you sad man if it hadnt been for the roses the mondays and the inspirals bands like the Charlatans wouldnt have been anywhere nomatter how good they are
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Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 08:19:10 -0500
From: derek_f@alcor.concordia.ca (Derek Fong)
Subject: Re: imports & stuff
>Here in britain Cant get out of bed was released as a cd only single for one
> week. It came with postcards and was in a box set the tracks were
>cant get out of bed
>subterrainean
>cant get out of bed (demo)
>easy life(demo)
>im talkin shit sorry easy life was released for one week as described
>above with easy life also being the title track instead of cant get
>Cant get out of bed was released simply as a single here cant remember the
>track listing right off but if your interested get back to me
>as for the other two you mention theyve never been released here except as
>B sides maybe
The single of Can't Get Out Of Bed I have here has three tracks:
the title track, Out (an instrumental) and Withdrawn.
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Date: Mon, 04 Mar 1996 14:25:18 +0000 (GMT)
From: ASTRA <95379291@vax1.dcu.ie>
Subject: Re: I Nine Wanna Acre Be Court Adored
I agree
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Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 14:25:24 +0000 (GMT)
From: R.H.Phillips@exeter.ac.uk
Subject: Re: COBBLERS
Why argue about whether the Roses or the Charlies are better. They
are both top bands on recordand live.
They both get into a fucking cool groove and have feeling in their
music.
Just thought I'd mention for those who haven't heard of The Verve
that they too are way up there with the Charlatans. If you haven't
heard their albums you are missing out. Shame they split.
Truffle
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Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 11:04:01 -0500
From: Finalpoet@aol.com
Subject: Re: I Nine Wanna Acre Be Court Adored
woah, woah, woah......okay....i know that the stone roses started it
all....but mondays, inspirals, and the charlies all came ut of the same
manchester gig....the only difference is.....the charlies are still together!
live it like you love it kiddies!
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Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 11:06:10 -0500
From: Finalpoet@aol.com
Subject: Re: COBBLERS
well kiddies.....i saw oasis in concert night before last and they were
phenomenal!.....they aren't as fun to watch as our beloved charlies....but
musically live, they were flawless....check em out if ya can......
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Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 10:45:53 -0500
From: hultiin0@seraph1.sewanee.edu (Niklas Hultin)
Subject: Re: COBBLERS
>Why argue about whether the Roses or the Charlies are better. They
>are both top bands on recordand live.
>They both get into a fucking cool groove and have feeling in their
>music.
>
>Just thought I'd mention for those who haven't heard of The Verve
>that they too are way up there with the Charlatans. If you haven't
>heard their albums you are missing out. Shame they split.
Didnt the Verve reform under a new name minus McCabe?? (Sorry for the
non-Charlies contents)
Nik Hultin
Sewanee, TN
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Date: Mon, 4 Mar 96 17:27:15 UT
From: "Kenneth Johnson"
Subject: RE: COBBLERS
Verve line of discourse:
Yes they did
don't have new name yet
are recording now
out
Kenneth
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Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 17:00:12 GMT
From: Warren Prior <64333418@mmu.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Stone Roses??
> I can't believe that someone has written into the CHARLATANS' mailing list
> saying that The Stone Roses are better!!! Sort it out. Respect to John Squire
> but they haven't got a patch on our lads AND Ian Brown can't sing live.
But they are better.
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Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 10:30:51 -0800
From: Gerry Valle
Subject: MBV
I know I recommended Tremolo to someone, but I don't know if it was on
this list or what (and I'll recommend it again). If you're still interested
in MBV, there's a really cool Web page for them with photos, fan-transcribed
lyrics, discography, interviews, etc. I'll have to find the address or
you can do a search for MBV on the Web.
I just got the American version of "Life" by the Cardigans; it's the happiest
thing I've heard in a long time; it's quite silly but also wonderful. I don't
like Pizzicato Five, but I really liked this. Also got "Chorus" by Flying
Saucer Attack -- man, some people should learn how to fucking sing if they're
gonna put out an album. Plus the album is so lo-fi if they used more than
8-tracks recording it, they wasted their time.
Two bits,
Gerry
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Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 17:30:28 PST
From: Robert Harrison
Subject: Re: I Nine Wanna Acre Be Court Adored
On Mon, 4 Mar 1996 11:04:01 -0500 Finalpoet@aol.com wrote:
> From:Finalpoet@aol.com> Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 11:04:01 -0500
> Subject: Re: I Nine Wanna Acre Be Court Adored
> To: charlatans@stud2.misjonshs.no
>
> woah, woah, woah......okay....i know that the stone roses started it
> all....but mondays, inspirals, and the charlies all came ut of the same
> manchester gig....the only difference is.....the charlies are still together!
> live it like you love it kiddies!
The charlies may be one of the only so called maDchester bands left , but respect to the mondays and the inspirals as
they were top bands and as the roses have confirmed they are to .
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Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 15:58:14 +0100 (BST)
From: "T.E. McGrath"
Subject: Re: Roses
CAN SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN WHY THE
SCORE IS 2-0 TO THE CHARLIES,IT CAN'T BE RECORD SALES,
IT CANT BE SELL OUT SHOWS AND IT CAN'T BE CHART
PLACING,SO WHAT?
MONKEYBOY.
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Date: Mon, 4 Mar 96 14:17:03 -0600
From: Brett Matthew Haydin (Bretter)
Subject: Re: COBBLERS
>>Just thought I'd mention for those who haven't heard of The Verve
>>that they too are way up there with the Charlatans. If you haven't
>>heard their albums you are missing out. Shame they split.
There are a lot of great bands out there that many haven't heard of. Check
out the Rosemary's too. Matbe we should compile some sort of list of our
favorite bands. Email me at haydinbm@uwec.edu with your favorite band and
I'll compile a list of bands to check out. Sound good? Hey, we're all into
some pretty cool music, and I am sure that we'll all agree. Have you're
votes in by wednesday if you can...
Bretter
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Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 15:54:34 +0100 (BST)
From: "T.E. McGrath"
Subject: Re: Roses
OK ,YER THE CHARLIES ARE A GREAT BAND,I DO NOT DENY THIS
,HOWEVER ,AND AS PREDICTABLE AS IT IS,THE ROSES ARE
ARE SPIRITUAL AND MUSICAL GODS,LOOK AT THE LYRICS
,EVERY SO OFTEN CHARLIES HAVE TOP LYRICS WHICH
HIT HOME,(WEIRDO,SOULSAVER,ETC) BUT THE ROSES LYRICS
,ARE MYSTICAL AND HAVE A SENSE OF MAGIC ABOUT THEM.
LOOK AT RESSURECTION.FOOLS GOLD.LOVE SPREADS.
I DON'T FORGET THE MOST HONEST SONG OF ALL
I WANNA BE ADORED,FUCKIN ELL MAN ,I COULD
GO ON ALL NIGHT.
MONKEYBOY.
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Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 16:48:54 -0500
From: HEISEI6692@aol.com
Subject: Re: Roses
CAN SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN WHY THE
SCORE IS 2-0 TO THE CHARLIES
The reason I wrote that is how many of the Roses albums Fuckin made it to
number one? How many of the Charlies albums? Go figure. Now I really wish
everyone would get on with the fact that the Charlies are better. Who gives
a shit who was out first? Elvis was out before the Beatles, The Smiths
before Gene, etc. I really doesn't matter. The Roses WERE a top band, but
not now (In my opinion). Second Coming was like passing a kidney stone the
size of the rock of Gibralter. To everyone I'm sorry about the mindless
rantings in this mail, but I'm fuckin tired of hearin' about this. I also
had a shit day at school, and this is me venting.
cheers.
Travis
Hello Below me, Fucking feeling holy
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Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 16:45:48 -0500 (EST)
From: kclair@sas.upenn.edu (Kristina Clair)
Subject: band recommendations?
hey, anyone who wants to send me a list of your favorite bands (and why
you like 'em would be cool too), please do so. i have been searching for
some new music to check out and am so out of touch with the british scene
lately that i don't know where to start.
thanks
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Date: Mon, 04 Mar 1996 20:43:42 +0000
From: James D McAllister
Subject: Re: Roses
I THINK IT'S DUFF ALBUMS...
PS. HOW DO YOU GET OFF THIS LIST THINGY?
At 15:58 04/03/96 +0100, you wrote:
>CAN SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN WHY THE
>SCORE IS 2-0 TO THE CHARLIES,IT CAN'T BE RECORD SALES,
>IT CANT BE SELL OUT SHOWS AND IT CAN'T BE CHART
>PLACING,SO WHAT?
>
>
> MONKEYBOY.
>
>
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Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 17:52:31 -0500
From: Finalpoet@aol.com
Subject: Re: Roses
travis?....what's up bro..?....gettin a bit feisty about this roses charlies
thing aren't cha!.....s'okay....i'd defend charlies any day of the week too!
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Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 23:16:25 +0000 (GMT)
From: "SC. Barrie"
Subject: Roses
Dear Readers,
Is this a Charlies page or a Roses page? On the question of age, Pulp
beats them all, whilst the Charlies were around ages before Tim Burgess
arrived. On record sales I'd contest that the Roses beat the Charlies -
any stato's out there?
Cheers!
Scott
You're furious I'm Glorious
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Date: Mon, 4 Mar 96 14:08:52 -0600
From: Brett Matthew Haydin (Bretter)
Subject: Re: imports & stuff
>Cant get out of bed was released simply as a single here cant remember the
track listing right off but if your interested get back to me
Can't..Bed has has different tracks on the import and the domestic. I don't
remember the tracks either, but I own them both if anyone is interested in
the track names...
Bretter
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Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 15:42:18 -0800 (PST)
From: Justin Beck
Subject: Re: Roses
It's neither. It's not even a page. It's a mailing list. Pages are
things on the world wide web.
Sorry to be such a dick but I had to say it.
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Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 20:43:41 -0500
From: HEISEI6692@aol.com
Subject: Re: Roses
I'm not denying that the Roses prob'ly sold more albums per capita, but the
charlies have hit #1 in the UK charts twice while the roses haven't. As of
now I say this is a dead deal. I'll take all responsability of killing this,
and moving on.
(unless everyone has this dying urge to perpetuate this If a tree falls in
the woods type question of who is superior) So how is everybody? I'm
feeling much better now. Does anyone know of any new CHARLIES releases that
are coming out soon? Any limited edition sets? Who knows what brand of fags
Tim smokes? Are there any pre Tim Charlies material out there? What about
material from Tims' band before he joined up?
nihon jin ga iru no? Boku ni e- mail wo dashite kurenai?
Well gotta get on my Graphic Design homework. Stress is a wonderful lover
don't you think?
Cheers!
Travis
Live it like you love it
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Date: Tue, 5 Mar 96 03:12:32 -0500 (EST)
From: cstein@sava.gulfnet.com (Chris Steinmetz)
Subject: Re: THE GOSPEL TRUTH
Hello -
the following is so true people
>'your skies are mine' excuse me but have any of you ever heard of irony?
>Who cares which are the best band theyre both brilliant live and on record.
>So lets quit making silly comparisons both bands do theyre own thing and do
it well so sit back and enjoy the vibe
Peace, Chris
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Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 03:21:12 GMT
From: Vickie the Viking
Subject: Re: THE GOSPEL TRUTH
What's this about Roses and Charlies.....TAKE THAT RULE!
(sniff)
Ms Irony
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Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 20:43:41 -0600 (MDT)
From: MILLER_MELANI_S
Subject: Re: band recommendations?
On Mon, 4 Mar 1996, Kristina Clair wrote:
> hey, anyone who wants to send me a list of your favorite bands (and why
> you like 'em would be cool too), please do so. i have been searching for
> some new music to check out and am so out of touch with the british scene
> lately that i don't know where to start.
>
> thanks
Hi.. I just moved to the US from england.. heres some of the stuff I
think is cool...
pulp, blur, oasis, echobelly, suede, chemical brothers, orbital, st.
etienne, the prodigy, chumbawamba, elastica, sleeper,, supergrass... ummmm
.... basically everything except meswear cos the are shite... thats all..
bye...
Phil... ps, the charlatans are quite good... !
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Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 23:49:13 -0500
From: LNorth2214@aol.com
Subject: Re: COBBLERS
The verve is better than the charlatans!
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Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 23:49:26 -0500
From: LNorth2214@aol.com
Subject: Re: I Nine Wanna Acre Be Court Adored
so are the Roses.
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Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 23:53:53 -0500
From: LNorth2214@aol.com
Subject: Re: Roses
you poor disillusioned soul.
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Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 22:34:56 -0600 (MDT)
From: MILLER_MELANI_S
Subject: Re: COBBLERS
On Mon, 4 Mar 1996 LNorth2214@aol.com wrote:
> The verve is better than the charlatans!
no it isn't.
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Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 18:21:07 +1000 (EST)
From: Lisa Hay
Subject: Give it a rest guys!
This debate wouldn't even be happening if you lived in a land where the
chances of seeing any of the great bands previously mentioned are rare,
where their music gets very little airplay and their music will most
certainly never make the charts (Oasis being the exception!) Appreciate
that you have had the chance to see it all happen...while we in this great
southern land (Australia) have missed out on years of the Charlies, and are
trying to make up for lost time by gathering as much useful information on
them as possible...
And just while you're thinking it over, I'd be interested in receiving email
from any other Charlatan fans from any other far away lands...
Bye Lisa
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Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 03:37:41 -0500
From: SkEiht@aol.com
Subject: Two love, love
Two number ones to nothing
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Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 03:42:25 -0500
From: SkEiht@aol.com
Subject: HEISEI, DO YOU HAVE SECOND COMING?
ENJOY, YOUR LOVELY FRIEND
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Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 03:39:32 -0500
From: SkEiht@aol.com
Subject: FIND THE 'ROSES MAILING LIST, MONKEY BOY.
ENOUGH SAID
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Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 11:00:45 +0000 (GMT)
From: "SC. Barrie"
Subject: Re: Roses
> It's neither. It's not even a page. It's a mailing list. Pages are
> things on the world wide web.
>
> Sorry to be such a dick but I had to say it.
PEDANT!
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Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 11:30:12 GMT
From: Mr Silly
Subject: Re: band recommendations?
The Bluetones and Shed Seven, I got thoroughly arseholed with the
drummer and singer of Shed Seven last night they know one of my mates
here at Uni - good lads, good music and oodles of Stella wahayy
t
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Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 11:25:36 GMT
From: Mr Silly
Subject: Re: Roses
marlboro lights
t
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Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 14:02:14 GMT
From: campbell colin
Subject: Re: Stone Roses??
Yes he can sing live matey and another thing you can hear what he's singing about
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Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 14:05:05 GMT
From: campbell colin
Subject: Re: Roses
sounds like your venting out of the wrong hole my mannnnn!
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Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 14:01:17 GMT
From: campbell colin
Subject: Re: I Nine Wanna Acre Be Court Adored
sorry mate but the Mondays and the Inspirals and the Roses were the manchester gig
however that scene gave other bands like the charlatans the opening
In reference to your still together tag so are the Eagles and I'd rather be shaun ryder than listen to them
col
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Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 13:53:40 PST
From: Robert Harrison
Subject: Re: Give it a rest guys!
On Tue, 5 Mar 1996 18:21:07 +1000 (EST) Lisa Hay wrote:
> From: Lisa Hay
> Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 18:21:07 +1000 (EST)
> Subject: Give it a rest guys!
> To: charlatans@stud2.misjonshs.no
>
> This debate wouldn't even be happening if you lived in a land where the
> chances of seeing any of the great bands previously mentioned are rare,
> where their music gets very little airplay and their music will most
> certainly never make the charts (Oasis being the exception!) Appreciate
> that you have had the chance to see it all happen...while we in this great
> southern land (Australia) have missed out on years of the Charlies, and are
> trying to make up for lost time by gathering as much useful information on
> them as possible...
>
> And just while you're thinking it over, I'd be interested in receiving email
> from any other Charlatan fans from any other far away lands...
>
> Bye Lisa
Hello lisa
A fellow charlatans fan here , I just thought I'd reply to message as it gives
me chance to speak to someone in Austrailia as all the great soaps are made
there ! ( well perhaps not neighbours anyway )
The charlatans are a top band and have been a favorite of mine for sometime
now , the music is class and their image is top .
just when you think things are over , they are ROB
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Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 07:00:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jason Benda
Subject: esposos
Hey, just wondering if Tim and Sarah Cracknell are still married, or if
that fell by the wayside.
Where is the long-awaited, ever-anticipated Charlatans/St. etienne
single if indeed, they are still husband and wife? Maybe Sarah was
shaggin' that crazy Ringo Starr looking guy in the band. Can't blame
him.......
"Although it makes you very angry,
You don't want it watered down......"
Jason
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Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 10:28:58 -0500 (EST)
From: CAL9505@cup.edu
Subject: Re: Roses
this is supposed to be about the charlatans, not about the other manchester bands. while i'm at it, could someone tell me where to find b-sides and bootlegs of charlatans? thanx. graham.
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Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 16:06:34 GMT
From: campbell colin
Subject: Re: esposos
Is this some kind of joke?
They were never married only for the purposes of the promotion for the single that came out two Christmas's ago entitled I was born for X-mas day
Are you with me so far?
It was a St etienne track with tim guest vocals
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Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 08:22:01 -0800 (PST)
From: Justin Beck
Subject: THIS IS A MAILING LIST
I'd like to urge everyone on this list to please realize it's a mailing
list and stop sending one-line, bullshit messages to everyone on it. If
you have something to say to a particular person, can you just mail them
personally? Do you know how to do that? Quit the one-on-one chatter and
also stuff like "roses are better tho".
Why do people become so stupid when they use the Internet?
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Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 08:13:47 -0800 (PST)
From: Justin Beck
Subject: Re: COBBLERS
How many of you people know what a mailing list is??
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Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 08:15:38 -0800 (PST)
From: Justin Beck
Subject: Re: HEISEI, DO YOU HAVE SECOND COMING?
THIS IS A MAILING LIST.
Please use personal e-mail for this stuff!!
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Date: Tue, 05 Mar 1996 12:04:49 -0500 (EST)
From: x95linderman@wmich.edu
Subject: Re: COBBLERS
Could someone tell me the exact procedure for unsubscribing...
I've tried but I keep getting letters, thankx and sorry for the
inconvenience!
steven
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Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 15:27:29 +0100 (BST)
From: "T.E. McGrath"
Subject: Re: Roses
I DON'T GIVE A FUCK WHOSE PAGE IT IS
AND I DON'T THINK IT MATTERS,COS
EVERYONE WHO LIKES THE ROSES LIKE THE THE CHARLIES
,HOWEVER,THERES NO HARM IN STATING WHO YOU PREFER
IF YOU HAD TO CHOOSE,EVERYBODY WHO WAS AT THE FEILE
IN CORK,MUST SURELY KNOW THE TRUTH.
THE PAST WAS YOURS THE FUTURES MINE
MONKEYBOY.
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Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 19:38:34 +0100
From: "Rick den Breejen"
Subject: Re: THIS IS A MAILING LIST
> I'd like to urge everyone on this list to please realize it's a mailing
> list and stop sending one-line, bullshit messages to everyone on it. If
Yo, better tell me how to unsubscribe me from this list wich I never
suvbscribed to...
Rick
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Date: Tue, 05 Mar 1996 16:39:07 +0000
From: James D McAllister
Subject: Re: Stone Roses??
THEN WHY DID THE CHARLIES SUPPORT THE ROSES AND NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND,
EH?!!!!
GET ME OFF THIS LIST....PLEASE.
At 14:02 05/03/96 GMT, you wrote:
>Yes he can sing live matey and another thing you can hear what he's singing
about
>
>
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Date: Tue, 05 Mar 1996 16:37:24 +0000
From: James D McAllister
Subject: Re: Roses
WHATRE YE GOIN TE DAE ABOOT IT LIKE?
SOMEBODY GET ME OFF THIS BORING UNCHARLATANS LIST!!!!
At 14:05 05/03/96 GMT, you wrote:
>sounds like your venting out of the wrong hole my mannnnn!
>
>
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Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 11:14:54 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jason Benda
Subject: re: esposos
No, really, I rememeber the cover of NME or MM a couple of years ago had
like the full wedding spread and everything. Perhaps being as stoic as I
am I read no irony in it. I must admit, I really did think they got
married. The title of the article was like "Marriage of the decade" or
sumthang like that. Sorry chaps, if I threw anyones' omnipotence out of
whack through a careless error......
(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((jASOn)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
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Date: Tue, 5 Mar 96 18:38:35 UT
From: "Kenneth Johnson"
Subject: I've had it!
Ok
Everyone on this list needs their fuckin' heads kicked.
Shut the fuck up about whose better, Verve, Roses, Charlies, etc.
It is a fine thing to express your opinion (once). Discussing differences (in
a mature manner) might even work; if the argument turns lengthy, exchange
addresses with the party or parties with whom you have a grievance and deal
with it outside the forum here.
This childish ranting back and forth over something that is obviously
unresolvable is assinine. Do you people have lives? Or anything intelligent
to offer the list at all? If not, waste someone else's time.
Get over yourselves.
Kind Regards,
Kenneth
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Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 15:37:55 +0100 (BST)
From: "T.E. McGrath"
Subject: Re: Roses
travis?....what's up bro..?....gettin a bit feisty about this roses charlies
thing aren't cha!.....s'okay....i'd defend charlies any day of the week too!
LOOK MAN,THE CHARLIES WERE MY NO.1,UNTIL
I WENT TO FEILE,NOW THEY HAVE BEEN RELEGATED
TO NUMBER 2. THATS LIFE. MONKEYBOY.
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Date: Tue, 5 Mar 96 18:27:19 UT
From: "Kenneth Johnson"
Subject: RE: band recommendations?
Robyn Hitchcock, Boo Radleys, Charlatans, Oasis, Verve, Stone Roses, Moose,
Beatles, Ride, Darkside, Spiritualized, Bauhaus, My Bloody Valentine, Trashcan
Sinatras, Sly and the Family Stone etc...
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