The Charlatans Digest Vol.2 Issue #08
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Digest
Vol.2 Issue #08
April 22nd, 1996
There are 53 messages totalling 1334 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. Hot Licks (5)
2. Diversion
3. Diversion divergin'
4. I'm free!! (28)
5. WOLSMR Gallery
6. Love 'em so much! (2)
7. 1990 - Charlatans invaded the USA (2)
8. in my opinion..... (3)
9. first shag ? (3)
10. videos (4)
11. Influences
12. Tour Dates...
13. we're still in kansas
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Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 11:44:28 PST
From: a05442@academic.csubak.edu
Subject: Hot Licks
Can someone tell me the quality of the recording on Hot Licks.
Thanks,
Dan
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Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 17:02:27 -0400
From: Finalpoet@aol.com
Subject: Re: Hot Licks
the quality on hot licks is good for a bootleg....there's a couple of
mistakes that the person recording it made....and tim's voice goes kinda flat
on some songs....but it's a pretty killer disc....a must for a fan
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Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 20:53:11 -0400
From: Lazyitis@aol.com
Subject: Re: Diversion
hye all my address is Lazyitis@aol.com
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Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 03:52:33 -0400
From: HEISEI6692@aol.com
Subject: Hot Licks
tell me the quality of the recording on Hot Licks.
yeah, I have it. It's okay in me opinion. If you find it it's worth picking
up. The quality's not the greatest, but.....hey it's the Charlies!
Cheers!
Travis
Live it like you love it
HEISEI6692@aol.com
Everyone file their taxes today?
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Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 09:07:35 -0400
From: kangela@DAX.CC.UAKRON.EDU (visions of johanna)
Subject: Re: Hot Licks
> tell me the quality of the recording on Hot Licks.
>
>yeah, I have it. It's okay in me opinion. If you find it it's worth picking
>up. The quality's not the greatest, but.....hey it's the Charlies!
>
>Cheers!
>
>Travis
>Live it like you love it
>HEISEI6692@aol.com
>
>Everyone file their taxes today?
yes. i hate taxes.
but i get all my money back.
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Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 09:04:10 -0400
From: kangela@DAX.CC.UAKRON.EDU (visions of johanna)
Subject: Re: Diversion divergin'
>hye all my address is Lazyitis@aol.com
>
>hooooo lazyitis. my address is kangela@uakron.edu
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Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 8:59:13 -0400 (EDT)
From: JLOWE@GC1.GEORCOLL.ON.CA
Subject: RE: Hot Licks
"Hot Licks" is one of the better bootlegs you are going to find anywhere. The
sound quality is beyond excellent...I have always been very impressed with this
CD.
jim
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 00:25:32 +0100 (BST)
From: Hewes
Subject: I'm free!!
I'm free to do what I want any old time,
cheers and good bye.
Rick
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Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 21:25:02 -0400 (EDT)
From: kclair@sas.upenn.edu (Kristina Clair)
Subject: Re: I'm free!!
> I'm free to do what I want any old time,
>
> cheers and good bye.
> Rick
What are the Soup Dragons up to these days, anyway?
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Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 22:15:20 +0700
From: wolsmr@hg.uleth.ca (Merrilee Wolsey)
Subject: WOLSMR Gallery
WOLSMR Gallery is having it's first official on line opening on saturday
april 20th 4-6 pm mountain time on irc #wolsmr
BE THERE!
tell everyone!!!
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 13:01:05 +0200
From: Eirik Gudmundsen
Subject: Re: I'm free!!
>> I'm free to do what I want any old time,
>>
>> cheers and good bye.
>> Rick
>>
> What are the Soup Dragons up to these days, anyway?
I think the vocalist (Sean something!?) continued for himself as The Soup Dragons (he should've
changed it to The Soup Dragon). The drummer in the Soup Dragons has, as many of you surely know,
joined Teenage Fanclub and was a part of the band when they released 'Grand Prix'. The Soup Dragons
(or Sean Simpson?) released an album last year which wasn't a great success. I didn't like the
album myself, which I think was the fourth album release for the Soup Dragons.
there you go, a short 'liberating' story.
Cheers
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Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 08:46:26 -0400
From: kangela@DAX.CC.UAKRON.EDU (visions of johanna)
Subject: Re: I'm free!!
>> I'm free to do what I want any old time,
>>
>> cheers and good bye.
>> Rick
>>
>What are the Soup Dragons up to these days, anyway?
>
>
>--
>
>"I can't even be bothered
> Energy breaks me down." -The Charlatans
>
>-----
i don't want a pickle...........just want to ride my motorcyle
and i don't want to tickle.......just want to ride on my motorcycle
and i don't want to dieeeeeeeeeee......just want to ride on my
motorcy......................cle.
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Date: Thu, 18 Apr 96 15:29:44 gmt
From: "MM653"
Subject: Re: I'm free!!
> I'm free to do what I want any old time,
>
> cheers and good bye.
> Rick
>
>What are the Soup Dragons up to these days, anyway?
Last I heard Sean Dickson was keeping the name and working on his own stuff.
Paul Quinn (drummer) replaced Brendan O'Hare (now with Telstar Ponies) in
Teenage Fanclub. Sushil Dade (Bass) has joined the BMX Bandits. Which leaves
Jim McCulloch (guitar)???
Dougie S
mm653@central.napier.ac.uk
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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 00:58:31 +0930 (GMT+0930)
From: 9408427b <9408427b@ntx.City.UniSA.edu.au>
Subject: Re: I'm free!!
Charlies are the best band in the world, I still can't get over Some
Friendly album. It's fuc8ing excellent. I love Opportunity, Then, U
R'not very Well, Sproston Green and Flower. Do yous guys love'em so much
as well??? I love when Tim goes 'Don't bring the flowers to my bed, I
don't wish you to know, It;s time I found myelf again" I recently split
up with my girlfriend and that song kept me going and alive. Reply!!!
On Thu, 18 Apr 1996, visions of johanna wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> I'm free to do what I want any old time,
> >>
> >> cheers and good bye.
> >> Rick
> >>
> >What are the Soup Dragons up to these days, anyway?
> >
> >
> >--
> >
> >"I can't even be bothered
> > Energy breaks me down." -The Charlatans
> >
> >-----
>
>
> i don't want a pickle...........just want to ride my motorcyle
> and i don't want to tickle.......just want to ride on my motorcycle
> and i don't want to dieeeeeeeeeee......just want to ride on my
> motorcy......................cle.
>
>
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Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 12:51:01 -0500 (EST)
From: ibon500@cord.iupui.edu
Subject: Re: I'm free!!
what can i say, i whole heartedly agree that some friendly is
still a great album even compared to the new one. when i saw
the charlies in chicago, october of 95, tim truly is the best
performer on stage!!! and when they encored with sproston green
the ****ing place went wild. as for flower, the song i look forward
to hearing the most on that album, i agree as well that that part
hits home so well. wonderful letter!
rene'
On Fri, 19 Apr 1996, 9408427b wrote:
> Charlies are the best band in the world, I still can't get over Some
> Friendly album. It's fuc8ing excellent. I love Opportunity, Then, U
> R'not very Well, Sproston Green and Flower. Do yous guys love'em so much
> as well??? I love when Tim goes 'Don't bring the flowers to my bed, I
> don't wish you to know, It;s time I found myelf again" I recently split
> up with my girlfriend and that song kept me going and alive. Reply!!!
>
>
> On Thu, 18 Apr 1996, visions of johanna wrote:
>
> > >
> > >>
> > >> I'm free to do what I want any old time,
> > >>
> > >> cheers and good bye.
> > >> Rick
> > >>
> > >What are the Soup Dragons up to these days, anyway?
> > >
> > >
> > >--
> > >
> > >"I can't even be bothered
> > > Energy breaks me down." -The Charlatans
> > >
> > >-----
> >
> >
> > i don't want a pickle...........just want to ride my motorcyle
> > and i don't want to tickle.......just want to ride on my motorcycle
> > and i don't want to dieeeeeeeeeee......just want to ride on my
> > motorcy......................cle.
> >
> >
>
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Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 11:38:01 -0700 (PDT)
From: klyakov@ucsd.edu (Lyakov) (Krassi Lyakov)
Subject: Love 'em so much!
>Charlies are the best band in the world, I still can't get over Some
>Friendly album. It's fuc8ing excellent. I love Opportunity, Then, U
>R'not very Well, Sproston Green and Flower. Do yous guys love'em so much
>as well???
Yes, you're not alone on this...Love 'em as much as you do and more!
>I love when Tim goes 'Don't bring the flowers to my bed, I
>don't wish you to know, It;s time I found myelf again"
A top song...I love playing it with my band...We also cover "Can't even be
bothered" - another classic!...
Anyone heard any news about the Charlatans? Last thing I heard was that Tim
and Mark are working on new material...
I know this might not be very relevant, but I wanted to share my excitement
about meeting Rachel Goswell and Neil Halstead (previously of Slowdive) and
the rest of the members of Mojave 3 this weekend...They played an acoustic
set in a music store in Berkeley. Great people to talk to, all of
them...They seemed really nice.
I Also saw Black Grape in LA...what a disappointment...whatever happened to
the spirit of the Happy Mondays? ...
Peace!
"I can't even be bothered, energy breaks me down..."
Krassi
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Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 18:22:15 -0400 (EDT)
From: kclair@sas.upenn.edu (Kristina Clair)
Subject: Re: I'm free!!
> Charlies are the best band in the world, I still can't get over Some
> Friendly album. It's fuc8ing excellent. I love Opportunity, Then, U
> R'not very Well, Sproston Green and Flower. Do yous guys love'em so much
> as well??? I love when Tim goes 'Don't bring the flowers to my bed, I
> don't wish you to know, It;s time I found myelf again" I recently split
> up with my girlfriend and that song kept me going and alive. Reply!!!
I favor Between 10th and 11th, personally. There is such psychedelic
subtlety to be found on that album, although I owned it for a good two
years before I started to appreciate it as much as I do now.
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Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 20:41:04 -0400
From: Lazyitis@aol.com
Subject: Re: I'm free!!
Up to our hips is so underrated i love it ...JESUS HAIRDO rocks and so does
the remixes on the 12 inch(not of J.H.)........see ya later
long live the STONE ROSES
love LAZYITIS
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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 10:48:12 +0930 (GMT+0930)
From: 9408427b <9408427b@ntx.City.UniSA.edu.au>
Subject: Re: I'm free!!
I envy yous guys the pleasure to actually see Charlatans live perfoming.
Being from land of Oz we get all these US bands coming down here but from
UK bands we only got Elastica and Stone Roses in 1995 and still can't see
any others comming. What's wrong with the promoters here???
On Thu, 18 Apr 1996 ibon500@cord.iupui.edu wrote:
> what can i say, i whole heartedly agree that some friendly is
> still a great album even compared to the new one. when i saw
> the charlies in chicago, october of 95, tim truly is the best
> performer on stage!!! and when they encored with sproston green
> the ****ing place went wild. as for flower, the song i look forward
> to hearing the most on that album, i agree as well that that part
> hits home so well. wonderful letter!
>
> rene'
>
>
> On Fri, 19 Apr 1996, 9408427b wrote:
>
> > Charlies are the best band in the world, I still can't get over Some
> > Friendly album. It's fuc8ing excellent. I love Opportunity, Then, U
> > R'not very Well, Sproston Green and Flower. Do yous guys love'em so much
> > as well??? I love when Tim goes 'Don't bring the flowers to my bed, I
> > don't wish you to know, It;s time I found myelf again" I recently split
> > up with my girlfriend and that song kept me going and alive. Reply!!!
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 18 Apr 1996, visions of johanna wrote:
> >
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> I'm free to do what I want any old time,
> > > >>
> > > >> cheers and good bye.
> > > >> Rick
> > > >>
> > > >What are the Soup Dragons up to these days, anyway?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >--
> > > >
> > > >"I can't even be bothered
> > > > Energy breaks me down." -The Charlatans
> > > >
> > > >-----
> > >
> > >
> > > i don't want a pickle...........just want to ride my motorcyle
> > > and i don't want to tickle.......just want to ride on my motorcycle
> > > and i don't want to dieeeeeeeeeee......just want to ride on my
> > > motorcy......................cle.
> > >
> > >
> >
>
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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 11:52:52 +0930 (GMT+0930)
From: 9408427b <9408427b@ntx.City.UniSA.edu.au>
Subject: Re: I'm free!!
Is Tim Burgess a dead ringer for Mark Gardener from Ride (or should I sa
ex Ride or what)?
Pity about the Ride and Stone Roses though. Just makes me appreciate
that Charlies are still going strong and I can't wait for their new
album. It should be a cracker.
On Thu, 18 Apr 1996 Lazyitis@aol.com wrote:
> Up to our hips is so underrated i love it ...JESUS HAIRDO rocks and so does
> the remixes on the 12 inch(not of J.H.)........see ya later
>
>
> long live the STONE ROSES
> love LAZYITIS
>
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Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 23:07:58 -0400 (EDT)
From: x94dolan@wmich.edu
Subject: Re: I'm free!!
Did I miss something about the Stone Roses here? Last I heard there was
supposed to be a new album out this year...
On Fri, 19 Apr 1996, 9408427b wrote:
> Is Tim Burgess a dead ringer for Mark Gardener from Ride (or should I sa
> ex Ride or what)?
> Pity about the Ride and Stone Roses though. Just makes me appreciate
> that Charlies are still going strong and I can't wait for their new
> album. It should be a cracker.
>
> On Thu, 18 Apr 1996 Lazyitis@aol.com wrote:
>
> > Up to our hips is so underrated i love it ...JESUS HAIRDO rocks and so does
> > the remixes on the 12 inch(not of J.H.)........see ya later
> >
> >
> > long live the STONE ROSES
> > love LAZYITIS
> >
>
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Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 22:22:36 -0700 (PDT)
From: CHRISTINA ANN-MARIE HOAG
Subject: Re: I'm free!!
since when have the charlatans been known as charlies? does that seem a
tiny bit wrong to anyone other than me?
just wondering
cheers to all
krissy!
:)
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Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 23:31:21 -0700
From: Decker
Subject: 1990 - Charlatans invaded the USA
Well, to all you Charlatan fans.... i got news...... ever since 1990, they
changed my life!
I was in a band Called Niagara, and we sounded very Charlatan influenced.
We kicked so much ass! as for the scene here in good O'l Washington state
USA, no one got us. They were all into Grunge and what ever the hell was hip.
We were the true band man, and only certain people knew it.
The Charlatans are my ULTRA FAVORITE band in the world! All the bands i like
are from England....and some U.S. bands but not much.
As for me, still my favorite album, the one that changed my life, is Some
Friendly! That album had MASS energy and they were young like me now (21).
I only have one video, the half ,ass, hour them. N E 1 know what other Some
Friendly videos they have???
well, i'll write more later.... i need to work on my new song.......i'm an
electronic musician also...so i can make it all sequenced and do music like
how i see it. I need a real B-3 or C-3.... for my new non electronic band
coming this summer.....
L8R
-Decker
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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 10:27:18 +0200
From: Eirik Gudmundsen
Subject: Re: I'm free!!
> Did I miss something about the Stone Roses here? Last I heard there was
> supposed to be a new album out this year...
You must have missed something, yeah. I don't think it has been mentioned on
this mailinglist, but John Squire (the guitarist and the one who writes almost
all the songs) has left the Stone Roses. That means only half the original
Stone Roses are left, and it will never be the same. If the Stone Roses
continue with a new guitarist, there will be three new band members and two
old. For me that seems like a new band (and may they sound good).
It's sad isn't it?
I really hope The Charlatans keep on for a long time. They have survived many
scenes and band splits, so that's a good sign.
I love the organ solo on Flower!
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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 18:18:20 +0930 (GMT+0930)
From: 9408427b <9408427b@ntx.City.UniSA.edu.au>
Subject: Re: I'm free!!
It is sad but true my friend!!! John is gone and with his input to the
last ablum (Second Coming he wrote most of the song) I can't see roses
and Ian to do anything. Reminds me of the Smiths very much break up!!!
Peter D.
On Thu, 18 Apr 1996 x94dolan@wmich.edu wrote:
> Did I miss something about the Stone Roses here? Last I heard there was
> supposed to be a new album out this year...
>
> On Fri, 19 Apr 1996, 9408427b wrote:
>
> > Is Tim Burgess a dead ringer for Mark Gardener from Ride (or should I sa
> > ex Ride or what)?
> > Pity about the Ride and Stone Roses though. Just makes me appreciate
> > that Charlies are still going strong and I can't wait for their new
> > album. It should be a cracker.
> >
> > On Thu, 18 Apr 1996 Lazyitis@aol.com wrote:
> >
> > > Up to our hips is so underrated i love it ...JESUS HAIRDO rocks and so does
> > > the remixes on the 12 inch(not of J.H.)........see ya later
> > >
> > >
> > > long live the STONE ROSES
> > > love LAZYITIS
> > >
> >
>
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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 18:26:42 +0930 (GMT+0930)
From: 9408427b <9408427b@ntx.City.UniSA.edu.au>
Subject: Re: I'm free!!
Don't get too upset krissy!!! It seems to me that almost every band in
England has a surname. I mean Stone Roses are known as 'roses',
Morrissey is mozza, blutones are 'tones, Richard Ashcroft is known as a
mad Richard etc. It's just the music papers making up bollocks to sell.
P.D
On Thu, 18 Apr 1996, CHRISTINA ANN-MARIE HOAG wrote:
> since when have the charlatans been known as charlies? does that seem a
> tiny bit wrong to anyone other than me?
>
> just wondering
> cheers to all
> krissy!
> :)
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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 18:35:51 +0930 (GMT+0930)
From: 9408427b <9408427b@ntx.City.UniSA.edu.au>
Subject: Re: 1990 - Charlatans invaded the USA
I have seen the only one I know video on our local telly but I agree with
you that Charlatans are the best band in the world and that Some Friendly
is their career highlight. As for your band, good on ya that in the
flood of grunge that swept the universe in 1992-1994 (thanx GOD it's over
and never let it happen again) you did not betray your musical
influences.
P.D from Oz
On Thu, 18 Apr 1996, Decker wrote:
> Well, to all you Charlatan fans.... i got news...... ever since 1990, they changed my life!
> I was in a band Called Niagara, and we sounded very Charlatan influenced. We kicked so much ass! as for the scene here
> in good O'l Washington state USA, no one got us. They were all into Grunge and what ever the hell was hip. We were the true band man, and only
> certain people knew it.
> The Charlatans are my ULTRA FAVORITE band in the world! All the bands i like are from England....and some U.S. bands but not much.
> As for me, still my favorite album, the one that changed my life, is Some Friendly! That album had MASS energy and they were young like
> me now (21). I only have one video, the half ,ass, hour them. N E 1 know what other Some Friendly videos they have???
>
> well, i'll write more later.... i need to work on my new song.......i'm an electronic musician also...so i can make it all sequenced and
> do music like how i see it. I need a real B-3 or C-3.... for my new non electronic band coming this summer.....
>
> L8R
> -Decker
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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 10:31:53 GMT
From: BEZ
Subject: in my opinion.....
" the moment you were down,
you went away,
you never came back home,
i will never see you this way,
again. " { Taurus Moaner }
I just felt like airing my, and i'm sure most other people on this
list's, opinion of what a class act the charlatans really are.
and i'm not purely talking singles and albums, i'm talkin' about the
less discussed b-side beauties, whether they are non-LP tracks,
re-mixes, or live versions, they never fail to impress.
my particular favourites today ( could well change tomorrow, with my
mood ) are:
Taurus Moaner, Stir it up, and Green flashing eyes.
how many other bands produce so many top-notch songs just for
b-sides ? Very Few !
i feel a lot better for getting that off my chest, thanks for
listening.
Cheers & Cherries,
Bez.
{ P.S. Will anyone sell me Indian Rope CD single for a tenner (stlg10) ?}
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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 10:57:50 GMT+0100
From: "Vin Donnelly"
Subject: Re: I'm free!!
> Did I miss something about the Stone Roses here? Last I heard there was
> supposed to be a new album out this year...
>
umm..they split up...well John left to start a new band (see this
weeks nme for more details on that....interview with John.)
-viN
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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 11:16:54 +0100
From: Stuart Alexander MacKinnon CS95
Subject: Re: I'm free!!
------- Forwarded Message
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 23:07:58 -0400 (EDT)
From: x94dolan@wmich.edu
Subject: Re: I'm free!!
Where have you been? I assume you know that Rene left but John Squire has also left in the last couple of weeks. Since
he wrote most of the second comming I don't see much new happening for the Roses soon although there are rumours that
Slash is going to join them. It won't be the same now my two faves have gone.
>Did I miss something about the Stone Roses here? Last I heard there was
>supposed to be a new album out this year...
>
>On Fri, 19 Apr 1996, 9408427b wrote:
> Is Tim Burgess a dead ringer for Mark Gardener from Ride (or should I sa
> ex Ride or what)?
> Pity about the Ride and Stone Roses though. Just makes me appreciate
> that Charlies are still going strong and I can't wait for their new
> album. It should be a cracker.
>
> On Thu, 18 Apr 1996 Lazyitis@aol.com wrote:
>
> > Up to our hips is so underrated i love it ...JESUS HAIRDO rocks and so does
> > the remixes on the 12 inch(not of J.H.)........see ya later
> >
> >
> > long live the STONE ROSES
> > love LAZYITIS
> >
>
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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 11:08:02 +0100
From: Stuart Alexander MacKinnon CS95
Subject: Re: I'm free!!
------- Forwarded Message
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 18:22:15 -0400 (EDT)
From: Kristina Clair
Subject: Re: I'm free!!
>I favor Between 10th and 11th, personally. There is such psychedelic
>subtlety to be found on that album, although I owned it for a good two
>years before I started to appreciate it as much as I do now.
I have to agree, although this is not my favourite album, Some Friendly is, I do
think it is very underated and gets better with time.
Hoagie.
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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 11:57:19 BST
From: The Soul Saver
Subject: Re: I'm free!!
Stone Roses are no more! (Well not without JS snd Reni anyway)
I'm looking forward to JS's solo stuff. Will it be just Henrix
regurgitation? I hope not.
> Did I miss something about the Stone Roses here? Last I heard there was
> supposed to be a new album out this year...
>
> On Fri, 19 Apr 1996, 9408427b wrote:
>
> > Is Tim Burgess a dead ringer for Mark Gardener from Ride (or should I sa
> > ex Ride or what)?
> > Pity about the Ride and Stone Roses though. Just makes me appreciate
> > that Charlies are still going strong and I can't wait for their new
> > album. It should be a cracker.
> >
> > On Thu, 18 Apr 1996 Lazyitis@aol.com wrote:
> >
> > > Up to our hips is so underrated i love it ...JESUS HAIRDO rocks and so does
> > > the remixes on the 12 inch(not of J.H.)........see ya later
> > >
> > >
> > > long live the STONE ROSES
> > > love LAZYITIS
> > >
> >
> 'He who laughs last ...
... is a bit slow'
Quote courtesy of The Ant Man.
mbcx5rmc@stud.man.ac.uk Tel:(0161) 224 7982
Ha ha!
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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 12:59:56 GMT
From: BEZ
Subject: first shag ?
on the CDNOW net site:
http://cdnow.com/cgi-bin/mserver/SID=166376975/page=popsearch/lcc=7863
61108+2
there is a cd for sale called:
The Charlatans U.K. (...First Shag
priced at $15.36
does anyone know what this is, what the tracks are, and if it's worth
getting ?
Cheers big ears,
Bez
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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 09:22:12 -0400
From: kangela@DAX.CC.UAKRON.EDU (visions of johanna)
Subject: Re: I'm free!!
>since when have the charlatans been known as charlies? does that seem a
>tiny bit wrong to anyone other than me?
>
>just wondering
>cheers to all
>krissy!
> :)
calling them the charlies reminds me of charlie brown. i prefer "the
charlatans", but it doesn't really bother me that much. i can still sleep at
night.
bye,
angela
kangela@uakron.edu
and not to base this scene on,
it's not my independence i'm afraid of this time.
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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 09:24:33 -0400
From: kangela@DAX.CC.UAKRON.EDU (visions of johanna)
Subject: Re: I'm free!!
>It is sad but true my friend!!! John is gone and with his input to the
>last ablum (Second Coming he wrote most of the song) I can't see roses
>and Ian to do anything. Reminds me of the Smiths very much break up!!!
>Peter D.
hey peter d. , where are you from? (just wondering)
>On Thu, 18 Apr 1996 x94dolan@wmich.edu wrote:
>
>> Did I miss something about the Stone Roses here? Last I heard there was
>> supposed to be a new album out this year...
>>
>> On Fri, 19 Apr 1996, 9408427b wrote:
>>
>> > Is Tim Burgess a dead ringer for Mark Gardener from Ride (or should I sa
>> > ex Ride or what)?
>> > Pity about the Ride and Stone Roses though. Just makes me appreciate
>> > that Charlies are still going strong and I can't wait for their new
>> > album. It should be a cracker.
>> >
>> > On Thu, 18 Apr 1996 Lazyitis@aol.com wrote:
>> >
>> > > Up to our hips is so underrated i love it ...JESUS HAIRDO rocks and
so does
>> > > the remixes on the 12 inch(not of J.H.)........see ya later
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > long live the STONE ROSES
>> > > love LAZYITIS
>> > >
>> >
>>
>
>
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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 09:13:13 -0400
From: kangela@DAX.CC.UAKRON.EDU (visions of johanna)
Subject: Re: Love 'em so much!
>>Charlies are the best band in the world, I still can't get over Some
>>Friendly album. It's fuc8ing excellent. I love Opportunity, Then, U
>>R'not very Well, Sproston Green and Flower. Do yous guys love'em so much
>>as well???
>
>Yes, you're not alone on this...Love 'em as much as you do and more!
>
> I love when Tim goes 'Don't bring the flowers to my bed, I
>>don't wish you to know, It;s time I found myelf again"
>
>A top song...I love playing it with my band...We also cover "Can't even be
>bothered" - another classic!...
>
>Anyone heard any news about the Charlatans? Last thing I heard was that Tim
>and Mark are working on new material...
>
>I know this might not be very relevant, but I wanted to share my excitement
>about meeting Rachel Goswell and Neil Halstead (previously of Slowdive) and
>the rest of the members of Mojave 3 this weekend...They played an acoustic
>set in a music store in Berkeley. Great people to talk to, all of
>them...They seemed really nice.
>I Also saw Black Grape in LA...what a disappointment...whatever happened to
>the spirit of the Happy Mondays? ...
>
>Peace!
>
>"I can't even be bothered, energy breaks me down..."
>
>Krassi
slowdive and mojave 3 are excellent
bye,
angela
kangela@uakron.edu
and not to base this scene on,
it's not my independence i'm afraid of this time.
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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 09:18:14 -0400
From: kangela@DAX.CC.UAKRON.EDU (visions of johanna)
Subject: Re: I'm free!!
>Up to our hips is so underrated i love it ...JESUS HAIRDO rocks and so does
>the remixes on the 12 inch(not of J.H.)........see ya later
>
>
> long live the STONE ROSES
> love LAZYITIS
YES!
bye,
angela
kangela@uakron.edu
and not to base this scene on,
it's not my independence i'm afraid of this time.
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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 09:42:37 -0600
From: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Subject: Re: I'm free!!
[post removed by request from the author]
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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 09:25:51 -0700 (PDT)
From: klyakov@ucsd.edu (Lyakov) (Krassi Lyakov)
Subject: videos
Does anyone have any video recordings of the Charlatans? I'd love to
trade..I've got the Charlatans live in Japan concert from Some Friendly, and
the Charlatans guest hosting 120minutes, with the video for "Just lookin'"
and a (brilliant) in the studio live performance of "Toothache"....I would
love to get a copy of some other videos (or concerts, or interviews, or
whatever....)
Please help!
Thanks in advance!
Krassi
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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 17:39:10 -0700
From: ryan@paragon.co.uk (Ryan Butt)
Subject: Re: I'm free!!
>>Up to our hips is so underrated i love it ...JESUS HAIRDO rocks and so does
>>the remixes on the 12 inch(not of J.H.)........see ya later
>>
>>
>> long live the STONE ROSES
>> love LAZYITIS
>>
> YES!
>
> bye,
> angela
>
> Up To Our Hips was sheer brilliance alright... but why did it sink lower
> than shark shite?
Compared to their earlier 'baggy' stuff, the Charlatans proved that they'd
soured as a unit.
Of course then 'The Charlatans' album came along and blew everything else
away. I just hope we see more Chemical Brothers colaberations in the near
future.
One thing's for sure though, Tim really needs to strength his song for
their live performances (not that I'm being picky or anything Mr Burgess,
sir!!!).
Right... I'll bugger off now
ta-ta!
Ryan
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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 14:52:02 +0100
From: sweeney3@jeflin.tju.edu (Shawn)
Subject: Re: in my opinion.....
well
as far as sweet b-sides go the moz and of course the roses, but you
are right not too many. c'ya
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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 15:15:14 -0400 (EDT)
From: Sarah
Subject: Re: in my opinion.....
> well
>
> as far as sweet b-sides go the moz and of course the roses, but you
> are right not too many. c'ya
were the roses at one time.. like the first album...
the bluetones definitely.
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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 14:11:39 -0700 (PDT)
From: CHRISTINA ANN-MARIE HOAG
Subject: Re: I'm free!!
I was not upset at all, i had just never heard that before.
cheers
krissy
On Fri, 19 Apr 1996, 9408427b wrote:
> Don't get too upset krissy!!! It seems to me that almost every band in
> England has a surname. I mean Stone Roses are known as 'roses',
> Morrissey is mozza, blutones are 'tones, Richard Ashcroft is known as a
> mad Richard etc. It's just the music papers making up bollocks to sell.
> P.D
>
> On Thu, 18 Apr 1996, CHRISTINA ANN-MARIE HOAG wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > since when have the charlatans been known as charlies? does that seem a
> > tiny bit wrong to anyone other than me?
> >
> > just wondering
> > cheers to all
> > krissy!
> > :)
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 17:39:45 -0400
From: HEISEI6692@aol.com
Subject: Re: first shag ?
First shag is apparently the same as the new album the charlatans. Me mate
was gonna get it fer me on me birthday, and ordered it from a local record
store. When it came in it was the new album. If you look I think the order
numbers are the same.
Cheers
Travis
Live it like you love it
HEISEI6692@aol.com
Hey, Bedford! Sorry I didn't call you back, but me portfolio was in need of
some major work. It paid off though, as I got into every class that I
wanted. No hard feelings?
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Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 13:16:45 +0930 (GMT+0930)
From: 9408427b <9408427b@ntx.City.UniSA.edu.au>
Subject: Re: I'm free!!
Actually only John Squire and Ian Brown were the original members of the
Roses. They had a band called 'Petrol' in mid 80's ands were apparently
covering The Smiths' songs.
I suggest John should join Johnny Marr (in my opinion those two are the
best modern music guitarists in England today) in Electronic and finally
get the new electronic 'prozac' album out!!! Has anyone got any news
about that album at all?
Peter D.
On Fri, 19 Apr 1996, Eirik Gudmundsen wrote:
>
> > Did I miss something about the Stone Roses here? Last I heard there was
> > supposed to be a new album out this year...
>
> You must have missed something, yeah. I don't think it has been mentioned on
> this mailinglist, but John Squire (the guitarist and the one who writes almost
> all the songs) has left the Stone Roses. That means only half the original
> Stone Roses are left, and it will never be the same. If the Stone Roses
> continue with a new guitarist, there will be three new band members and two
> old. For me that seems like a new band (and may they sound good).
> It's sad isn't it?
>
> I really hope The Charlatans keep on for a long time. They have survived many
> scenes and band splits, so that's a good sign.
>
> I love the organ solo on Flower!
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Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 13:22:29 +0930 (GMT+0930)
From: 9408427b <9408427b@ntx.City.UniSA.edu.au>
Subject: Re: I'm free!!
I am from the beautiful land of OZ.
Peter D.
On Fri, 19 Apr 1996, visions of johanna wrote:
> >It is sad but true my friend!!! John is gone and with his input to the
> >last ablum (Second Coming he wrote most of the song) I can't see roses
> >and Ian to do anything. Reminds me of the Smiths very much break up!!!
> >Peter D.
> >
>
> hey peter d. , where are you from? (just wondering)
>
> >On Thu, 18 Apr 1996 x94dolan@wmich.edu wrote:
> >
> >> Did I miss something about the Stone Roses here? Last I heard there was
> >> supposed to be a new album out this year...
> >>
> >> On Fri, 19 Apr 1996, 9408427b wrote:
> >>
> >> > Is Tim Burgess a dead ringer for Mark Gardener from Ride (or should I sa
> >> > ex Ride or what)?
> >> > Pity about the Ride and Stone Roses though. Just makes me appreciate
> >> > that Charlies are still going strong and I can't wait for their new
> >> > album. It should be a cracker.
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, 18 Apr 1996 Lazyitis@aol.com wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Up to our hips is so underrated i love it ...JESUS HAIRDO rocks and
> so does
> >> > > the remixes on the 12 inch(not of J.H.)........see ya later
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > long live the STONE ROSES
> >> > > love LAZYITIS
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 21:02:32 -0700 (PDT)
From: CHRISTINA ANN-MARIE HOAG
Subject: Re: videos
Hello
I have the charlatans some friendly video collection. It has then, the
only one i know, 109 pt2, live concert footage, and an interview.
krissy
On Fri, 19 Apr 1996, Lyakov wrote:
> Does anyone have any video recordings of the Charlatans? I'd love to
> trade..I've got the Charlatans live in Japan concert from Some Friendly, and
> the Charlatans guest hosting 120minutes, with the video for "Just lookin'"
> and a (brilliant) in the studio live performance of "Toothache"....I would
> love to get a copy of some other videos (or concerts, or interviews, or
> whatever....)
>
> Please help!
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> "I can't even be bothered, energy breaks me down..."
>
> Krassi
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Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 00:52:04 -0400 (EDT)
From: Deborah
Subject: Re: videos
> On Fri, 19 Apr 1996, Lyakov wrote:
>
> > Does anyone have any video recordings of the Charlatans? I'd love to
> > trade..I've got the Charlatans live in Japan concert from Some Friendly, and
> > the Charlatans guest hosting 120minutes, with the video for "Just lookin'"
> > and a (brilliant) in the studio live performance of "Toothache"....I would
> > love to get a copy of some other videos (or concerts, or interviews, or
> > whatever....)
> >
> > Please help!
okay i have all the charlatans videos done from the some friendly album
right through to the present album except for the video of them as
gangsters (just when you're thinkin'. . . right?). plus tonnes of
interview footage. if i can locate the tape with it on i'll trade with
you if you are interested.
also, anyone want to trade/sell me a copy of indian rope on cd or vinyl?
it is the only charlatans' cd i'm missing. i'll love whoever
sells/trades it forever!!!!!
deborah
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Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 01:07:57 -0400
From: Lazyitis@aol.com
Subject: Re: videos
i have a promo video for "weirdo" w/ "i don't wanna see the sights"
love
lazyitis
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Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 16:11:37 GMT+1000
From: "Nicole"
Subject: Influences
I have only recently been introduced to the Charlatans, but adore
them already. Can anyone tell me who their major influences are?
I guess the Roses were, but can't pick anyone else....
Timmy is a megababe....
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Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 16:28:09 GMT+1000
From: "Nicole"
Subject: Tour Dates...
Hey, does anyone know if "the Charls" are planning on touring
Australia in the near future???
Nicole
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Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 16:23:03 GMT+1000
From: "nic"
Subject: Re: we're still in kansas
> I envy yous guys the pleasure to actually see Charlatans live perfoming.
> Being from land of Oz we get all these US bands coming down here but from
> UK bands we only got Elastica and Stone Roses in 1995 and still can't see
> any others comming. What's wrong with the promoters here???
high, i'm also living in australia at the moment(what a dump),
anyhow, apparently it has just been confirmed(last week) that blur,
pulp an oasis are to be touring at the end of the year. (this info
came from scene, a free mag put out by the record traders in
queensland) Do you like any of these? i'm personally dying to see
blur because my starshaped and showtime videos are wearing rather
thin. Did you see elastica and the roses? I saw both.
The stone roses. LIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have seen many shows in my time, by bands from all sections of the
music industry and none will ever surpass the power and the glory of
my first (and , sadly enough,) probably last roses show. How can one
express the magnitude of the ethereal magic that surrounds this band.
The show began with the anthemic, i wanna be adored and finished with
the resurrection. It all came and went like god coming down from
heaven to cleanse the world and then quietly slipping away, into the
night for some spliff and a few drinks.
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Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 20:12:01 -0400
From: SkEiht@aol.com
Subject: Re: first shag ?
I saw it listed at a Blockbuster Music store, but when I ordered it, only
"Charlatans UK" arrived. I have no idea.
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