The Charlatans Digest Vol.2 Issue #13
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Digest
Vol.2 Issue #13
June 25th, 1996
There are 65 messages totalling 1375 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. Thats Entertainment (4)
2. In commercials (7)
3. Top 5 (2)
4. Top 5 Results! (4)
5. NME on the Net
6. Viva CREAM
7. Fuck off you deeply boring people.
8. charlatans fans (2)
9. Hello? (9)
10. GO ON THE SCOTLAND
11. football (was: hello?) (2)
12. Dug up some ancient select mag pictures
13. Football Championship (13)
14. NON-CharlatansRE:Wu-tang
15. when I first stepped on the scene....
16. Not from Manchester (2)
17. Inspirals?Northside?Smith. (2)
18. Tim alert!!
19. Reply to: Re: Hello?
20. Inspirals?
21. Happy birthday Eirik! (7)
22. sorry all
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Date: Mon, 3 Jun 96 13:29:07 BST
From: CHEEZIE
Subject: Thats Entertainment
Allo, right since i've been on this list i've noticed that everyone seems to
like the Charlies album between 10th and 11th, however I thinks it is a pile
of pants. Don't get me wrong, i'm as big a fan of the Charlies as the next,
but except for "Page One" the rest of the songs are rubbish.This Album
compared to the other three just isn't in the same league. Right goodbye then,
Cheezie.
p.s. Dubstar are complete rubbish.
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Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 09:17:32 EST5EDT
From: "jim lowe"
Subject: Re: Thats Entertainment
>of pants. Don't get me wrong, i'm as big a fan of the Charlies as the next,
>but except for "Page One" the rest of the songs are rubbish.This Album
>compared to the other three just isn't in the same league. Right goodbye then,
>Cheezie.
What about "Can't Even Be Bothered"? That's a great song!!!
jim
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Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 06:30:15 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jason Benda
Subject: In commercials
First it was Ride's "Chrome Waves" used as the backing track for the Nike
US Womens' Soccer Team last year and then Elastica's "Connection" for the
Budwiser Blimp commercial (for Christ's sake) and now, last night I was
watching like, the news, or the Sonic's game or something and, well,
y'all know, probably in the UK, too, these Microsoft "Where do you want
to go today?" commercials. Well, the new one has about 10 seconds from
"Life is Sweet", the break down part where it says "Check it", while the
mouse pointer move around clicking various icons.
Boys and girls, it's an "alternative" world we All live in. Well, at
least someone up at Microsoft Palace is listening to Chemical
Brothers/Charlatans..........that can't be a bad thing...or can it.....?
cheers, jason
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Date: Mon, 03 Jun 1996 08:27:25 -0500
From: Shane and Kari Winn
Subject: Top 5
Hey! If you haven't sent me your top 5 Charlatans tunes and still want
to participate, I'm not going to post it until later tonight. All of
the slots are tied up, and some more votes would really be helpful!
Send all replies to : kwinn@niu.edu
Thanks!
Keep on keepin' on,
Kari
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Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 11:40:47 -0400 (EDT)
From: David Reichert
Subject: Re: In commercials
>First it was Ride's "Chrome Waves" used as the backing track for the Nike
>US Womens' Soccer Team last year and then Elastica's "Connection" for the
>Budwiser Blimp commercial (for Christ's sake) and now, last night I was
>watching like, the news, or the Sonic's game or something and, well,
>y'all know, probably in the UK, too, these Microsoft "Where do you want
>to go today?" commercials. Well, the new one has about 10 seconds from
>"Life is Sweet", the break down part where it says "Check it", while the
>mouse pointer move around clicking various icons.
Also, In Canada at least, Lush's "Sweetness and Light" is used in a
Volkswagen commercial.
Cheers!
DAVE
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Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 17:33:09 +0100 (BST)
From: Mr M P Donnelly
Subject: Re: Thats Entertainment
On Mon, 3 Jun 1996, CHEEZIE wrote:
> Allo, right since i've been on this list i've noticed that everyone seems to
> like the Charlies album between 10th and 11th, however I thinks it is a pile
> of pants. Don't get me wrong, i'm as big a fan of the Charlies as the next,
> but except for "Page One" the rest of the songs are rubbish.This Album
> compared to the other three just isn't in the same league. Right goodbye then,
> Cheezie.
>
> p.s. Dubstar are complete rubbish.
Sory but youre wrong, it is by far the best album, especially "Can't even
be Bothered", a perfect metaphor for my life
Dubstar are poor but coming to my uni in 2 weeks, should be fun-NOT
Mike
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Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 12:46:40 -0400 (EDT)
From: Brett A Hand
Subject: Re: Top 5
my top five are
1. subtitle
2. weirdo
3. nine acre court
4. the only one i know
5. just lookin'
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Date: Mon, 3 Jun 96 17:39:16 -0500 (CDT)
From: jba076@airmail.net (josh barnett)
Subject: Re: In commercials
>>First it was Ride's "Chrome Waves" used as the backing track for the Nike
>>US Womens' Soccer Team last year and then Elastica's "Connection" for the
>>Budwiser Blimp commercial (for Christ's sake) and now, last night I was
>>watching like, the news, or the Sonic's game or something and, well,
>>y'all know, probably in the UK, too, these Microsoft "Where do you want
>>to go today?" commercials. Well, the new one has about 10 seconds from
>>"Life is Sweet", the break down part where it says "Check it", while the
>>mouse pointer move around clicking various icons.
>>
>
>Also, In Canada at least, Lush's "Sweetness and Light" is used in a
>Volkswagen commercial.
james has a song featured in a hotel commercial here in the states.
sorry dave but the leafs didn't go too far this season, but don't worry, my
red wings didn't either.
josh
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Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 20:40:11 -0400 (EDT)
From: Are you a fox or a hedgehog?
Subject: Re: In commercials
>First it was Ride's "Chrome Waves" used as the backing track for the Nike
>US Womens' Soccer Team last year and then Elastica's "Connection" for the
>Budwiser Blimp commercial (for Christ's sake) and now, last night I was
>watching like, the news, or the Sonic's game or something and, well,
>y'all know, probably in the UK, too, these Microsoft "Where do you want
>to go today?" commercials. Well, the new one has about 10 seconds from
>"Life is Sweet", the break down part where it says "Check it", while the
>mouse pointer move around clicking various icons.
And let's not forget Luna's "California" in a Calvin Klein ad! That's almost
as bad as the Microsoft one..
By the way, this is my first post, so hello everyone! :)
Amanda D.
KosherBacon@tmbg.org
http://www.afn.org/~afn37647/
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Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 22:12:00 -0400
From: debevans@barint.on.ca (deborah evans)
Subject: Re: In commercials
>>Also, In Canada at least, Lush's "Sweetness and Light" is used in a
>>Volkswagen commercial.
that was part of a huge 4Ad deal signed with VW either last year or the year
before. cost VW tonnes of money. oh and then there is bjork used in a Mars
commercial. and i always here "indie" stuff like
ride/oasis/charlatans/stone roses/primal scream on newsworld's "fashion
file" and several entertainment magazine programs.
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Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 00:07:58 -0400 (EDT)
From: David Reichert
Subject: Re: In commercials
At 22:12 03/06/96 -0400, you wrote:
>
>>>
>>>Also, In Canada at least, Lush's "Sweetness and Light" is used in a
>>>Volkswagen commercial.
>
>that was part of a huge 4Ad deal signed with VW either last year or the year
>before. cost VW tonnes of money. oh and then there is bjork used in a Mars
>commercial. and i always here "indie" stuff like
>ride/oasis/charlatans/stone roses/primal scream on newsworld's "fashion
>file" and several entertainment magazine programs.
Good old CBC! Knows good music when it hears it.
Cheers
DAVE
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Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 09:21:45 -0400 (EDT)
From: kclair@sas.upenn.edu (Kristina Clair)
Subject: Re: Thats Entertainment
> On Mon, 3 Jun 1996, CHEEZIE wrote:
>
> > Allo, right since i've been on this list i've noticed that everyone seems to
> > like the Charlies album between 10th and 11th, however I thinks it is a pile
> > of pants. Don't get me wrong, i'm as big a fan of the Charlies as the next,
> > but except for "Page One" the rest of the songs are rubbish.This Album
> > compared to the other three just isn't in the same league. Right goodbye then,
> > Cheezie.
I agree it is not the same as the other three, but I like it much more.
There is much more to the songs, lyrically and musically, for me. Have
you ever really LISTENED to it? There are so many sounds in the
background that I didn't catch for the first two years I had it. Then,
at a concert once, Tim called it their most psychedelic record. That
made me rethink it and listen to it differently. Personally, I think
that it is so different from the other three that I wouldn't even venture
to make any kind of comparison
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Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 12:13:55 EST5EDT
From: "jim lowe"
Subject: Re: In commercials
Another example of indie music in adverts;
Blur's "There's No Other Way" was used for a jeans commercial on the
French-Canadian version of MTV (Musique Plus).
I often hear the charlies on those syndicated "Entertainment Tonight"
clones...one time, it was in a story on John Bobbit! ("Polar Bear", I
think).
jim
jim lowe - jlowe@central.georcoll.on.ca
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Date: Tue, 04 Jun 1996 20:07:47 -0500
From: Shane and Kari Winn
Subject: Top 5 Results!
Hey everybody!
Here are the results of the Top 5 poll. Sorry I took so long to get
them back, but it took awhile to sort through it all. Thanks again to
everyone who participated!!
The Top 5 Are:
#1) "The Only One I Know" (won by a landslide...)
#2) "Sproston Green"
#3) "Just When You're Thinkin' Things Over" and "Then" (tie)
#4) "Weirdo"
#5) "Page One"
Following after the Top 5:
#6) "Can't Even Be Bothered" and "Can't Get Out Of Bed" (tie)
#7) "Opportunity", "I Never Want An Easy Life...", "Inside-Looking Out",
"Just Lookin'" and "Here Comes A Soul Saver" (5-way tie)
#8) "Chewing Gum Weekend", "Jesus Hairdo" and "Patrol" (3-way tie)
#9) "White Shirt", "Subtitle", "Come In Number 21", "Feel Flows",
"Crashin' In", "Bullet Comes", "Toothache", "No Fiction", and
"Happen To Die" (9-way tie)
#10) "Flower", "Tremelo Song", and "Nine Acre Court" (3-way tie)
Keep on keepin' on,
Kari
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Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 13:05:31 GMT+1000
From: "Nicole"
Subject: NME on the Net
Hey charlatans
Does everyone know about the new nme website at:
http://www.nme.com
It has a great Timothy Leary article and Manics concert review. It's
not totally on-line yet (for chatgroups etc) but is looking good.
Unfortunately, the Public NME section didn't have any juicy gossip to
report on The Charlatans latest misdeeds and endeavours, so if anyone
here can appease our appetite, just go ahead.
cheers
Nicole
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Date: Thu, 6 Jun 96 13:52:39 PDT
From: "CHRIS WALTON, SHIFT 7 DIFFUSION, PG:932-3802"
Subject: Re: Viva CREAM
Cassandra
You're in the states an we got plenty of madchester clubs all you gotta do is
look
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Date: Thu, 6 Jun 96 13:44:19 PDT
From: "CHRIS WALTON, SHIFT 7 DIFFUSION, PG:932-3802"
Subject: RE: Top 5 Results!
I can't believe Happen to die didn't even make the top 5.
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Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 17:57:31 -0400
From: kangela@DAX.CC.UAKRON.EDU (thymiane)
Subject: Re: Fuck off you deeply boring people.
>Stop sending me shit E-mails. You are all cunts. Stop being so sad. Go to
>the fucking pub. Get a shag. Try and be interesting. Wankers.
>
> Lots of love
> Greig.
>
bite me.
even more love,
angela.
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Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 19:18:17 -0400
From: debevans@barint.on.ca (deborah evans)
Subject: RE: Top 5 Results!
>I can't believe Happen to die didn't even make the top 5.
well i think i missed the voting for the top 5 so i'll vote on them now
1) then
2) over rising & happen to die
3) everything changed
4) don't want to see the sights
5) flower & soul saver
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Date: Fri, 7 Jun 96 13:58:36 PDT
From: "CHRIS WALTON, SHIFT 7 DIFFUSION, PG:932-3802"
Subject: RE: Top 5 Results!
Happen to die is such a cool song. That whole Over Rising disc is
incredible. I remember being so stoked when that came out,thinking an
album would be released shortly after.Then Me in Time came out and still
no 2nd album. What a depressing time in my life: No Stone Roses and no
Charlies. Had to make do with the likes of blur and the inspirals and
constant re releases courtesy of silvertone. Anyone else have any similar
experience?
-Cressa
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Date: Sat, 8 Jun 1996 20:21:06 -0700 (PDT)
From: klyakov@ucsd.edu (Lyakov) (Krassi Lyakov)
Subject: charlatans fans
Hi everyone!
Every couple of months I try to update my list of Charlatans fans from
around the world. If you don't see your personal info in the list bellow,
and if you feel like providing it, please do so by sending e-mail to my
personal address - klyakov@ucsd.edu. PLEASE, DO NOT REPLY TO THE LIST! Thank
you!
/1/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------
name: Dave Gardin
e-mail: DavidG6523@aol.com
location: San Jose, California
country: USA
additional info: Male, age 35, Inventory Control Planner
/2/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------
name: Martin Fawley
e-mail: "(What's the story...) Martin Fawley"
location: Malvern
country: England
additional info: Occupation: Student at Bath University,
but currently on a years placement in
Malvern (nr. Worcester);
Originally from Leeds.
/3/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------
name: Lisa Boshuizen
e-mail: 9416641@edufee.fee.uva.nl
location: Amsterdam
country: Netherlands.
additional info: b-day: December 15, 1974
/4/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------
name: Erik Soderstrom
e-mail: chief@lysator.liu.se
location: Linkoping
country: Sweden
/5/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------
name: Jim Lowe
e-mail: "James D. Lowe"
location: Barrie, Ontario
country: Canada
additional info: Research Director & College Instructor
/6/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------
name: Justin Beck
e-mail: Justin Beck
location: Irvine, California
country: USA
/7/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------
name: Arthur Rehak
e-mail: Rehak
location: Kearny (NJ)
country: USA
/8/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------
name: Douglas VanWieren
e-mail: backbeat@IslandNet.com
(backbeat@islandnet.com)
location: Victoria, BC
country: Canada
/9/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------
name: Tats
e-mail: Graham.Robertson@ed.ac.uk
location: Edinburgh
country: Scotland
additional info: Soccer Club : Heart of Midlothian;
Age: 22; Sex : Male; Top5: Stone Roses,
Charlatans, Happy Mondays, Oasis,
Inspiral Carpets
/10/ -----------------------------------------------------------------------
name: Krassi Lyakov
e-mail: klyakov@ucsd.edu
location: San Diego, California
country: USA
additional info: Bulgarian; b-day: September 22, 1973;
hobbies: songwriting, listening to and
playing music,painting, writing, reading,
soccer, badminton, skiing; phone #: (619)
452 - 0461 (just in case someone ends up
visiting San Diego - please feel free to give
me a buzz and will go out for a coffee......)
/11/ -----------------------------------------------------------------------
name: Sujay Jhaveri
e-mail: Sujay Jhaveri
location: New York
country: USA
/12/ -----------------------------------------------------------------------
name: Greg Ipp
e-mail: "Greg Ipp"
location: Vancouver, BC
country: Canada
/13/ -----------------------------------------------------------------------
name: Merrilee Wolsey
e-mail: MERRILEE WOLSEY
location: Lethbridge, AB.
country: Canada
additional info: age 21, from vancouver, bc. canada,
senior art student
/14/ -----------------------------------------------------------------------
name: John Bergstrom
location: Milwaukee Wisconsin
country: USA
/15/ -----------------------------------------------------------------------
name: Andy Fraire
e-mail: andyf@as.ucsb.edu
location: Santa Barbara, CA
country: USA
additional info: Music Director KCSB-FM, Best record
of the year: Chemical Brothers
"Exit Planet Dust"..and i made that choice
before hearing Tim say it.
/16/ -----------------------------------------------------------------------
name: Matt Ungerer
e-mail: Munj@aol.com
location: Syracuse, NY
country: USA
additional info: exact address: Matt Ungerer
302 Meadow Rd.
Syracuse, NY 13219
USA
/17/ -----------------------------------------------------------------------
name: Christine Jack
e-mail: cjack@islandnet.com
location: Victoria B.C
country: Canada
/18/ -----------------------------------------------------------------------
name: Lee Talbot
e-mail: etllett@etlxdmx.ericsson.se
location: Brighton
country: UK
additional info: 23 year old male, Software Designer.
Originally from Bridgend, S.Wales.
/19/ -----------------------------------------------------------------------
name: Shane Brown
e-mail: sbrown@netexpress.net (Shane M Brown)
location: Rock Island, IL
country: USA
additional info: street address 1103 25th St. #B2,
Rock Island, IL 61201 USA
Male, age 25, Classified Telesales
Representatives for a local newspaper.
My tops for 1995: Tricky, Chemical Bros
Radiohead, Swervedriver, Oasis, Charlies.
/20/ -----------------------------------------------------------------------
name: Niklas Hultin
e-mail: hultiin0@seraph1.sewanee.edu (Niklas Hultin)
location: Sewanee, TN
country: USA
/21/ -----------------------------------------------------------------------
name: Steven Linderman
e-mail: x95linderman@wmich.edu
location: Western Michigan University
country: USA
/22/ -----------------------------------------------------------------------
name: Ioanna Kotsogiannis
e-mail: iwavva@umich.edu
location: Ann Arbor, Michigan
country: USA
additional info: Greek, Political Science/Anthropology
major, University of Michigan 18 years old
(b-day: September 6, 1977), love poetry,
art, and dancing
/23/ -----------------------------------------------------------------------
name: Chris Steinmetz
e-mail: cstein@sava.gulfnet.com (Chris Steinmetz)
location: Savannah, GA
country: USA
additional info: addres: 402 E. 55th St.,
Savannah, Ga. 31405 USA
end.
Peace!
Krassi
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Date: 10 Jun 96 12:10:00 -0500
From: Travis_Saunders-R3278C@email.mot.com
Subject: Re: charlatans fans
Everyone! the new select magazine has a free tape with the Charlies on it! The
song is Nine Acre Dust. Although it's not a new song it is something for the
gotta have it all charlies fan. Just thought I'd let everyon know. As it is
the only "new" Charlies news we've had in a bit.
Cheers
Travis
Come in 5 different flavors
r3278c@email.mot.com
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Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 14:36:07 -0700
From: jhowe@ccinet.ab.ca (Jen Howe)
Subject: Hello?
Has everyone disappeared? Surely somebody must have something to talk
about? Any new news on the Charlies or other related topics? Okay, how
about some old news? Please, somebody humour me and the rest of the list!
Jen
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Date: Mon, 10 Jun 96 18:09:02 -0500 (CDT)
From: jba076@airmail.net (josh barnett)
Subject: Re: Hello?
>Has everyone disappeared? Surely somebody must have something to talk
>about? Any new news on the Charlies or other related topics? Okay, how
>about some old news? Please, somebody humour me and the rest of the list!
o.k. i was reading that tim was into the wu-tang clan. they are a new york
rap group that some feel are the next wave of rap. the new style. the new
fad. there are about 5 or 6 in the group and their big pull is that they are
into martial arts and alias'. the fact about them is that they are just
another 'guns and bitches' hardcore rap group. but that is what tim was
talking about. the fact that they speak about things he has not experienced.
i just wish that tim could listen to some good hip hop (such as de la soul
or the roots) and hear about that stuff from people who think it's the
downfall of the community and wish it could be changed instead of hearing
about it from people who just want to make money!
josh
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Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 17:51:55 -0700
From: erin pham
Subject: Re: Hello?
At 02:36 PM 6/10/96 -0700, you wrote:
>Has everyone disappeared? Surely somebody must have something to talk
>about? Any new news on the Charlies or other related topics? Okay, how
>about some old news? Please, somebody humour me and the rest of the list!
Hi there!! This is my first post here on the charlatans thingy-mi-jig. So
what was the old news? hehehe!! I haven't a clue!! Maybe you ought to
start and we'll take it from there!! sound like an idea? In the meantime,
here is something completely out of range of the purpose of this list thing.
Here's a top 20 list that'll past the time and serve some kind of purpose in
the humor business!! This is for your reading pleasure!! Enjoy!!
*********************
TWENTY REASONS WHY CHOCOLATE IS BETTER THAN SEX:
1. You can GET chocolate.
2. "If you love me, you'll swallow that" has real meaning with chocolate
3. Chocolate satisfies even when it has gone soft.
4. You can safely have chocolate while you are driving.
5. You can make chocolate last as long as you want it to.
6. You can have chocolate even in front of your mother.
7. If you bite the nuts too hard, the chocolate won't mind.
8. Two people of the same sex can have chocolate without being called nasty
names.
9. The word "commitment" doesn't scare off chocolate.
10. You can have chocolate on top of your workbench/desk during working hours
without upsetting your work mates.
11. You can ask a stranger for chocolate without getting your face slapped.
12. You don't get hairs in your mouth with chocolate (eeww - this one conjurs
up
some vivid pictures)
13. With chocolate, there's no need to fake it.
14. Chocolate doesn't make you pregnant.
15. You can have chocolate any time of the month.
16. Good chocolate is easy to find.
17. You can have as many kinds of chocolate as you can handle.
18. You are never too young or too old for chocolate.
19. When you have chocolate, it does not keep your neighbors awake.
20. With chocolate, size doesn't matter; it's always good.
***********************
cheers!!
Erin
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Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 20:17:48 -0500 (EST)
From: The Stateside Blue
Subject: Re: Hello?
hi jen,
hmmm, well lets see...
at the moment for myself, EURO 96 is going on
thus taking a lot of my attention. England's
embarassment to Switz. could prove to be fatal.
perhaps Italy will raise my spirits. nothing
i know of concerning charlies though, just the
news of the band in the recording studio! maybe
a late summer release and a fall tour like last year!!!!
it's been fun following your posts :)
keep up the cheer!
rene'
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Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 15:24:49 +0930 (GMT+0930)
From: "P.D" <9408427b@ntx.City.UniSA.edu.au>
Subject: Re: Hello?
England have been indeed dissapointing against Swiss, but who agrees that
the biggest suprise comes from their neigbours Scotland and their gutsy
performance against Dutch. On the current merits i fancy Scots to
qualify before England in their group...
Peter D,
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Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 09:46:20 +0100 (BST)
From: pooh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Subject: Re: Hello?
AM HAVING A BIT OF A SNOOZE HERE WHAT TIME IS IT NOW?
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Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 12:40:05 +0100 (BST)
From: Mr M P Donnelly
Subject: GO ON THE SCOTLAND
EURO 96 is in the bag, just wait till Saturday!!!!
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Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 10:08:11 -0400
From: debevans@barint.on.ca (deborah evans)
Subject: football (was: hello?)
>England have been indeed dissapointing against Swiss, but who agrees that
>the biggest suprise comes from their neigbours Scotland and their gutsy
>performance against Dutch. On the current merits i fancy Scots to
>qualify before England in their group...
yeah, but how embarassing is wales playing? gawd it can not be as
dissappointing as their rugby lately. am i going to have my friends mocking
me with their football results as i do with their rugby results. tell me
ryan giggs is saving the day for them?
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Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 11:45:13 -0700
From: jhowe@ccinet.ab.ca (Jen Howe)
Subject: Re: Hello?
>Hi there!! This is my first post here on the charlatans thingy-mi-jig. So
>what was the old news? hehehe!! I haven't a clue!! Maybe you ought to
>start and we'll take it from there!! sound like an idea? In the meantime,
>here is something completely out of range of the purpose of this list thing.
>Here's a top 20 list that'll past the time and serve some kind of purpose in
>the humor business!! This is for your reading pleasure!! Enjoy!!
>*********************
>
>TWENTY REASONS WHY CHOCOLATE IS BETTER THAN SEX:
Ha, Ha! Funny post, Erin, and welcome to the list. We haven't been
talking much, as the Charlie's are kinda in limbo (recording album, and
such). Although, we did have nice discussions about "Jesus Hairdo" and the
Chemical (Dust) brothers, and we also talked for some time about which
celebs wear what brand of trainers. Laugh if you must, but it was fun.
However, I do have a something for us ot talk about. It's somebody's
birthday today but you have to guess who's it is. Hint: there are 3
letters in her name, and it rhymes with den, hen, men, pen, ten, and zen.
I'll say no more, as I don't want to give it away.
Oh, and for those following EURO '96, keep us posted!
Jen (a name that rhymes with lots of things!)
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Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 11:45:20 -0700
From: jhowe@ccinet.ab.ca (Jen Howe)
Subject: Re: Hello?
>hi jen,
>
>hmmm, well lets see...
>at the moment for myself, EURO 96 is going on
>thus taking a lot of my attention. England's
>embarassment to Switz. could prove to be fatal.
>perhaps Italy will raise my spirits. nothing
>i know of concerning charlies though, just the
>news of the band in the recording studio! maybe
>a late summer release and a fall tour like last year!!!!
>it's been fun following your posts :)
>keep up the cheer!
Thanks rene'! I like to keep people like you happy, because if I do that
then you keep people like me happy! If you didn't follow that, then
disregard it. Just know that it was a nice comment. Let's hope for a fall
tour! (she said with crossed fingers).
Jen
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 15:30:25 -0700
From: erin pham
Subject: Re: Hello?
Jen wrote something like this:
>However, I do have a something for us ot talk about. It's somebody's
>birthday today but you have to guess who's it is. Hint: there are 3
>letters in her name, and it rhymes with den, hen, men, pen, ten, and zen.
>I'll say no more, as I don't want to give it away.
Hahahaha!! I laughed out loud at this!! (Obviously, I find anything
amusing...) You must bear with me *:-)!!! Happy birthday Jen!!! How old
are ya? Lucky girl!! Any presents on the way?
Ok, I've got nothing else to say. DANG-IT!! My brain has turned to mush
now that finals are over. Talk to ya later!!!
Ciao!!
Erin
P.S Anyone have any delicious details about anything? Hmmmm....
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Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 16:30:48 -0700
From: erin pham
Subject: Dug up some ancient select mag pictures
Ok, old stuff on the charlies...I was spring cleaning in my closet and desk
drawers (a bit late, but hey...spring cleaning? Must it necessarily be done
during the spring?) Oh yeah, what was I saying? Hmmm... Oh yeah!! I
found some old pictures of the charlies in an old issue of Select Magazine.
I think it's a 1992 edition. Anyhoo, they've got some great pictures the
the charlies in it!! I never really thought about them back then. That was
during the Jesus Jones era. Hmmmph.. What a disappointment.
I think I'll resurrect those pics and stick them on my wall. There are some
cool Lush and Blur pictures in there too. Whoa. Thank goodness I don't
clean my room very often. Otherwise, I'd have thrown away those precious
mags. Moral of the story? There is none. I'm just babbling, but hey, I'm
entitled!!
Ciao!!
Erin
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Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 21:12:22 -0400
From: Taille
Subject: Football Championship
Has New Order recorded another really shit song for this Championship
too. Or have they learned their lesson and retired?
Note: Since there hasn't been anything interesting on the
Charlatans for some time, you must all be bored enough to answer a
question for me. Anyone know what happened to Darkside or the
Inspiral Carpets? Both bands produced some stunning records. It
would be a shame to end it now.
--------------------------------
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 20:55:17 -0800
From: Cassandra Frankos
Subject: NON-CharlatansRE:Wu-tang
NON-Charlatans related!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I thought all the fashion/shoe related posts were quite humorous, but
to bring up the Wu-tang, I gotta respond. Do you have 36 Chambers? Do
you have any of the single members releases? They are an east-coast
thing, that's only starting to pick up hype in the west coast. I don't
know if you have listened to them, but to say it's fact they're just
about guns and bitches isn't accurate. Tim has good taste to be
listening to the Wu-tang. If you do listen to any of them, listen to
Liquid Swords by GZA. He talks about Labels manipulating rap artists,
and about how money rules the world, and about how kids can't be safe
cause there are bullets flying in their neighborhoods. It's an inner
city portrait, GZA paints a picture. It's not all about gangsta rap.
As far as making money goes, I think most bands/artists like the idea
of making money, that way they can keep doing it...
josh barnett wrote:
> >o.k. i was reading that tim was into the wu-tang clan. they are a new york
> rap group that some feel are the next wave of rap. the new style. the new
> fad. there are about 5 or 6 in the group and their big pull is that they are
> into martial arts and alias'. the fact about them is that they are just
> another 'guns and bitches' hardcore rap group. but that is what tim was
> talking about. the fact that they speak about things he has not experienced.
> i just wish that tim could listen to some good hip hop (such as de la soul
> or the roots) and hear about that stuff from people who think it's the
> downfall of the community and wish it could be changed instead of hearing
> about it from people who just want to make money!
> josh
--------------------------------
Date: 12 Jun 96 13:25:00 -0500
From: Travis_Saunders-R3278C@email.mot.com
Subject: Re: Football Championship
I hate to be a negative c***, but I do feel that the inspirals were, are, and
forever will be shite. Besides what's that got to do with football? or the
Charlies? I read an intrview where Tim says that the inspirals were shite. Or
something like that.
--------------------------------
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 14:16:31 +0800 (WST)
From: Kevin Johnson PhD Geopolitics
Subject: Re: Football Championship
I read the same interview where Tim Burgess slags off the Inspiral
Carpets. Not that that would sway my opinion (although I happen to agree
with him). Just a note to let you all know that there there are a few
keen fans of the Charlatans in Perth and even a couple of local bands
here that draw some of their inspiration from them. If you're ever in
Perth check out Header, Round and, to some extent, Six Mile High.
This being my first message I would like to express my concern that
Between 10th and 11th is considered by many of you to be crap. I know its
quite unlike all the other albums but it has a lot of great sound on it.
And how come Patrol never got the accolades it deserves? Turn it up and
listen to the riff.
Kevin
--------------------------------
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 16:50:00 +0930 (GMT+0930)
From: "P.D" <9408427b@ntx.City.UniSA.edu.au>
Subject: Re: Football Championship
On Tue, 11 Jun 1996, Taille wrote:
> Has New Order recorded another really shit song for this Championship
> too. Or have they learned their lesson and retired?
>
> Note: Since there hasn't been anything interesting on the
> Charlatans for some time, you must all be bored enough to answer a
> question for me. Anyone know what happened to Darkside or the
> Inspiral Carpets? Both bands produced some stunning records. It
> would be a shame to end it now.
Easy on New Order, OK????
The 'World in Motion' is by far the best football song, there is. It was
recorded in the period when England were recognised as a world football
power so I guess Barney and co. had something to cheer about.
Lets treasure those times 'cos they may never repeat again... not soon
anyway ... having seen the Germans, Italians and French playing...!
------------------------------
Date: 12 Jun 96 17:59:00 -0500
From: Travis_Saunders-R3278C@email.mot.com
Subject: Re[2]: Football Championship
Ya know after re-reading me mail it did sound like I based me opinion of the
inspirals on that of what Tim said.I'd like to state that I did not like them
before I read that interview. It really gets on me tits to be missunderstood
that's why I'm writing this. I'VE NEVER LIKED THOSE SORRY C**** FROM
MANCHESTER!!!(the inspirals I mean)
Cheers
Travis
I sound like a stupid cunt an I know it-just let me at it
r3278c@email.mot.com
--------------------------------
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 09:16:27 -0400 (EDT)
From: Brett A Hand
Subject: Re: Re[2]: Football Championship
hey i believe that this is my first post, but any way here is a related
aspect of the Dust Brothers.
On a They Might Be Giants single for Snail Shell, the Brothers did a
remix of Snail Shell and called it Snail Dust.
Just another Dust/Chemical Brothers relation.
bye,brett,bass!
-------------------------------
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 14:48:23 +0100
From: jpt5@aber.ac.uk (JIM THOMPSON)
Subject: Re: Re[2]: Football Championship
>Ya know after re-reading me mail it did sound like I based me opinion of the
>inspirals on that of what Tim said.I'd like to state that I did not like them
>before I read that interview. It really gets on me tits to be missunderstood
>that's why I'm writing this. I'VE NEVER LIKED THOSE SORRY C**** FROM
>MANCHESTER!!!(the inspirals I mean)
Regarding the above statement, well call me a pedant but the Inspirals
are from Oldham anyway. Tosser.
Cheers, Jim.
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 23:32:14 +0100 (BST)
From: Mr M P Donnelly
Subject: Re: football (was: hello?)
wales recently lost to the Third Division side Leyton Orient 2-1, and
Orient weren't even playing a full strength side!!!
Never mind
---------------------------
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 23:37:29 +0100 (BST)
From: Mr M P Donnelly
Subject: Re: Football Championship
Insprials are not sh*t
They're dead good
----------------------------
Date: 13 Jun 96 09:30:00 -0500
From: Travis_Saunders-R3278C@email.mot.com
Subject: when I first stepped on the scene....
Sorry mates this has very little to do with the Charlies.
I personally think that Tim has some good taste in Choosing the wu-tang. that's
where method man, ole' dirty bastard, and redman came from. Although, I only
OCCASIONALLY listen to method man; I'm not "down" with the hip hop scene, ken?
But sometimes I need a little more than the hammond organs, beatles esque
guitars, or trip pop type music. (there are 3 bands in the before sentence- can
you guess which three? :) ) I'm not here to defend hip hop an that, but I just
wanted to babble about how Tim made a good choice in the wu-tang, ken? I mean
he could've gone with fuckin ice t or that punter snoop dog. I think this just
shows that Tim (as always) has great taste. Sorry fer me babbling.
Cheers
Travis
Slowly drifting...
r3278c@email.mot.com
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Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 11:21:17 +0800 (WST)
From: Kevin Johnson PhD Geopolitics
Subject: Re: Football Championship
> Insprials are not sh*t
> They're dead good
They're dead anyway
----------------------------
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 23:52:20 -0500 (CDT)
From: tecwritr@wichita.fn.net (John Ball)
Subject: Re: Football Championship
>> Insprials are not sh*t
>> They're dead good
>>
>>
>They're dead anyway
Here here, I'd say the late eighties early nineties was a terribly tastie
year to imbibe tunes. Tekno was a new word and music lept to a new level.
The SUMMER OF LOVE was 88 and 89 in england and the charlies were a band
inspired by the world that surrounded them. E and A use was on the rise and
the underground clubs like THE HACIENDA thrived before their demise to a
very american (dare I let the hideious words pass my lips). But dear England
rose to the highest level of savior faire seen to date. the charlies
keyinintadisset dared to combine the forces of basic deep house roots and
create the most influential Manchester band ever to grace great B? I think
so sad the drunk with a blunt to back the attack.
DOES ANYONE HEAR ME?
P.S. WE here in the states who subscribe to MUSIC oriented boards do not
appriciate you blooks clutterin the list with football notes!
-----------------------------
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 15:32:01 +0800 (WST)
From: Kevin Johnson PhD Geopolitics
Subject: Re: Football Championship
Hear you but not sure if I understand much beyond the fact that you like
the Charlatans (sorry, can't bring myself to abbreviate the word), but I
think thats all I needed to get from your message.
-------------------------------
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 09:16:41 +0100
From: ryan@paragon.co.uk (Ryan Butt)
Subject: Re: Football Championship
>Insprials are not sh*t
>They're dead good
Ha! The Inspirals were nothing but sad, pathetic-looking Roses wannabes who
emerged purely to hop on the baggy bandwagon and earn a few bucks. Fair
play then I suppose, but in all the time they were around (which was
remarkably long for these fly-by-night cowboys), couldn't they have at
least produced one decent tune?
P.S. And don't give me none of the 'This is How it Feels' bollocks.
Cool as fuck?
-Crap as fuck more like!
Ryan
-----------------------------
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 09:42:51 +0100
From: jpt5@aber.ac.uk (JIM THOMPSON)
Subject: Re: Not from Manchester
Call me a pedant again, but, just as the Inspirals aren't from Manchester,
neither are the Carlatans. They're from Northwich, Cheshire, not that close
really.
Cheers, Jim.
-------------------------------
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 09:46:39 +0100
From: jpt5@aber.ac.uk (JIM THOMPSON)
Subject: Re: Inspirals?Northside?Smith.
So what does anyone think about Northside? Actually I thought (and still do)
think they're dead good, some stuff is better than the Inspirals. The
carpets should be strung up for making a record with that stupid arrogant
wanker Mark E. Smith.
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 10:58:06 +0100 (BST)
From: Mr M P Donnelly
Subject: Re: Football Championship
I'm not saying that the charlies are sh*t, but that the inspirals aren't
bad either
Michael
-------------------------------
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 12:16:22 +0100 (BST)
From: "H.Ismail"
Subject: Tim alert!!
Has everyone seen this weeks Melody Maker? It's got an article on Euro 96 asking
several band members who they think will win, who thwy want to win, who should
have been there etc. Well Tim's one of them. He reckons Holland will win which
is cool because I agree!! Check it out.
Han
---------------------------------
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 10:00:55 -0400
From: debevans@barint.on.ca (deborah evans)
Subject: Re: Inspirals?Northside?Smith.
>So what does anyone think about Northside? Actually I thought (and still do)
>think they're dead good, some stuff is better than the Inspirals. The
>carpets should be strung up for making a record with that stupid arrogant
>wanker Mark E. Smith.
okay i thought morthside were great. i still do actually. they remind me
of my youth. besides, they had some great bass lines in practically all
their songs. and i never hated the inspiral carpets until the revenge of
the goldfish album. their first two albums were not too bad at all.
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 19:04:00 -0400
From: SPROSTON GREEN
Subject: Reply to: Re: Hello?
hey folks this is my first posting........josh you like the roots...same
here i saw them in austin...........any charlies fans here in texas........
especially in austin....see ya guys later
what you need is someone like me
JaMeS
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Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 17:20:46 +0100 (BST)
From: Vickie the Viking
Subject: Re: Not from Manchester
Northwich is one cool place...buzzing with excitement and also has a
nifty Salt museum and fabbo deptartment store. In addition, it used to
boast Taffy's Carpets and Victor Value, and KILROY from BBC fame opened
the Abbey National. IN fact, Northwich is so great, tears temporarily
blinded me when I left a few months ago.
Oh, to work for ICI...there is my true vocation.
Northwich, my heart belongs to you.
(This message was brought to you from the Northwich Tourism foundation,
ambassadors including Charlatans and Sussed...and Inspiral Carpets??)
--------------------------------
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 12:26:41 -0500
From: Shane and Kari Winn
Subject: Re: Inspirals?
> and i never hated the inspiral carpets until the revenge of
> the goldfish album. their first two albums were not too bad at all.
I never hated the inspiral carpets either; in fact I've always enjoyed
"Life". However, in comparison to the other bands concerned in that
era, they were clearly on a lower level.
Thought I'd throw my 2 cents in...
Kari
-------------------------------
Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 00:28:21 +0200 (METDST)
From: Trygve Gudmundsen
Subject: Happy birthday Eirik!
The maintainer of this list; Eirik Gudmundsen, just turned 21 years
thursday 13 june.
Congratulations!!
-------------------------
Date: Fri, 14 Jun 96 08:40:33 JST
From: r_smith@Koyosha.CO.JP (hiroko takeda)
Subject: Re: Happy birthday Eirik!
happy birthday Eirik from me too.
do you remember me??
--------------------------
Date: 14 Jun 96 11:03:00 -0500
From: Travis_Saunders-R3278C@email.mot.com
Subject: sorry all
EVERYONE SORRY ABOUT THE LAST POST TO THE LIST. IT WAS INTENDED FOR HIRO. I
FORGOT TO CHANGE THE ADDRESS. GOMENNASAI!!!
Cheers
t
--------------------------
Date: 14 Jun 96 10:20:00 -0500
From: Travis_Saunders-R3278C@email.mot.com
Subject: Re: Happy birthday Eirik!
21 eh? may yer birthday be filled with overflowing shots of Dram! Congrats.
Cheers
Travis
I lick yer belly and I make ya smile
r3278c@email.mot.com
-------------------------------
Date: 14 Jun 96 10:51:00 -0500
From: Travis_Saunders-R3278C@email.mot.com
Subject: Re[2]: Happy birthday Eirik!
hi luv.
I still haven't gotten paid yet and it's getting pretty rough. Me parents are
goin back to the states for good next month sos I'm looking fer an apt in or
around Jiyugaoka, for about a month. HONTO NI TAI HEN YO!! How's work? Things
are pickin up around here (finally). Have yer been to Strangelove's lately?
I've gotten a couple mensetsu coming up in the near future. dakara meishi wo
tsukuru. I'm fuckin tired! i have not slept a lot as of late. Today is Naka's
birthday. I told her to go to fuck awhile ago, sos I'm single again. Sorry fer
the short letter, but gotta get to work.
Cheers
Travis
Spronston green she used to please me, but now she hasn't got the time
r3278c@email.mot.com
--------------------------
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 17:12:02 -0700
From: jhowe@ccinet.ab.ca (Jen Howe)
Subject: Re: Happy birthday Eirik!
Happy Birthday, Eirik! I just truned 20 on the 11th, so were almost like
twins or something. Well, except that you're a year older and we aren't
related. But aside from that...
Jen
--------------------------
Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 08:11:26 -0700 (PDT)
From: klyakov@ucsd.edu (Lyakov) (Krassi Lyakov)
Subject: Re: Happy birthday Eirik!
Happy Birthday, boy!
Eirik, best wishes to you!
Live it like you love it!
Krassi
----------------------------
Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 13:09:13 -0500
From: Shane and Kari Winn
Subject: Re: Happy birthday Eirik!
Dear Eirik,
Have a very happy 21st birthday!
Now go have a beer.
Keep on keepin' on,
Kari
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